Message to E-liquid vendors.

[DeadPerfect]

I swear.. e-liquid onsite reviews are out of control. ive been to a dozen vape vendors looking for a good menthol and non menthol. im reading reviews on these sitee about the flavors, and they are all over the place. take for instance, a marlboro flavored liquid. youll have 5 people saying its just like a marlboro, and then 5 for saying it tastes like pure ....

and this is across the board on random sites. now im thinking.. all these vendors cant be being that inconsistent with there mixing ratios... and it cant be just different taste for different people. people that smoke marlboro, or whatever, know what it should taste like. the only discrepancy it can be it the different hardware people use. eveyones using something different.

i suggest vendors that allow e-juice reviewing should impliment dropdown boxes of your current hardware setup, or at least a mandatory box to state what hardware your using before you can review an e-liquid. and also something in bold to state something like, "please dont review e-juice flavors with old atty/cartos, attys/cartos with residual juice different from this brand, etc". theres gotta be a better review process than what currently going on right now.

 

[twohandedcreations]

yea, that stuff would be cool to know, but taste is soooooo subjective!! for example, I've had a juice that I thought tasted just like peanut butter and I let my buddy try it on the same device, same atty, same everything and he hated it and said it tasted floral. And thats only one example. But for us to vape the same juice, device, atty, everything and to come up with two tastes/flavors that are so far apart showed me just how far off one persons taste can be from the next regardless of the variables... I do agree that knowing that info when reading reviews would be nice, but I still think reviews would be all over the place.... just my opinion from my experiences...

 

[zoiDman]

I swear.. e-liquid onsite reviews are out of control. ...

I Really don't put Any Faith into e-Liquid Reviews.

Taste is too subjective for a Review to be Meaningful.

 

[Running Wolf]

And that's just it, different taste buds. Doesn't just apply to vaping, applies to food too. I will avoid McDonalds like a starving pit bull with HIV because the burgers taste like compressed cat litter, but apparently the millions sold think otherwise.

With juice though you also get into the outgassing/steeping issue. Something might taste like cat pee when you get it but mellow out as it sits there.

As for any flavor tasting like an analog, it just isn't so from any I have tried. Now I wouldn't want a juice that taste like an analog anyway.

 

[WyattDerp]

Taste is entirely subjective and BTW you'll never find a perfect Marl Menthol flavor as there is no way to emulate combustion into an eliquid flavor.

 

[throatkick]

Taste being extremely subjective is probably the biggest factor. Another factor is voltage and carto/atty. Certain flavors come alive at higher voltages. I've pretty much settled on the 801 atty because everything tasted much better and smoother when compared to the 510.

Different people, different tastes, different hardware.... it's natural that something like this would be a moving target.

 

[DeadPerfect]

i doubt it. sorry, but tastes are not that subjective. everyone knows peanut butter tastes like peanut butter. i never heard someone say peanut butter taste like goat testicle.

and Running Wolf.. you pretty much sabbotaged your own explanation; "millions of people like mc donalds"... yea, thats because it taste good. hence tastes generally run alike. your just a rare exception not to like it. im pretty new to vaping, but i have a strong feeling its mostly due to attys and voltage.

 

[OttoBahn]

It's hard to put very much stock in any online/on-site reviews (E-juice or Amazon..regardless). We have fan-boys and haters to sift through - not much an online vendor can do about either.

What vendors could do (perhaps) is a much better job of describing their liquids. A picture of a tobacco leaf (or cake or whatever) doesn't do much for a description. Not to mention the often silly names being used. That and offer inexpensive samples with little/no shipping.

 

[DeadPerfect]

i base all my purchaces from Amazon reviews. description isnt the problem either. yea some vendors may suck at replicating flavors, but when hordes of people buy a certain juice thats supposed to taste like something that alot of people agree it does, then it end up tasting like garbage to them, something else is the problem, and it aint theyre taste buds.

 

[Scottinboca]

Taste buds or not, a review is only as good as the reviewer. If you find a reviewer with similar a taste as you the review may be more helpful. IMO juice reviews are subjective like everyone states. What taste like orange to someone may taste like perfume to me. The only way I stumbled on KBV's juices was by their reviews people have made. I heard all the hype about their Gooey Better Cake and I gave it a shot. Now it's my favorite all day vape.

 

[jacquelyn]

I disagree with your taste theory. I personally have had the same liquid taste amazing 1 day and the next day I had zero taste. Same set up as the day before. My kbv gooey better cake was just 1 example I am on my third bottle ( 1st amazing 2nd tasteless 3 extra flavor purchased less then 1 month total for all). I had to get extra flavor in the hopes of getting my perfect vape back. Sadly My taste buds have been dead the last few days. I can't even taste mentol flavors right now. I am not sick. I am just 1 person and my taste buds change ALL the time.

Oh I also hate mcdonalds and peanut butter( I love peanuts though). I have friends who love salty foods some hate salty foods. Some love cake others like pie. Also please remember many people on this forum are switching or have stopped anologs during the process. We all have been messing with our taste buds for a while with anologs. I personally use to love spicy foods,now I can't eat it because it is so spicy now.

So when people say taste is subjective it is true. Please also take into account that not everyone likes the same things either.

 

[jacquelyn]

i doubt it. sorry, but tastes are not that subjective. everyone knows peanut butter tastes like peanut butter. i never heard someone say peanut butter taste like goat testicle.



Also what you think taste like peanut butter may not actually taste like peanut butter to me. .. How would you descibe what peanut butter taste likes to you? Probably very different then how I describe it.

 

[CCC]

You know what, i might just have to agree with the op, i never really thought about it that way and he has given me something to think about. Everyone does go on about how differant their juice tastes at higher voltages, and in differant cartos, so it would be a good idea for vendors to have this dropdown box for the reviewers, never know those 5 people who all said the malbro was awesome may have similar set ups, and same thing with the ones who said it tastes bad.

 

[Kind Head]

... and it cant be just different taste for different people. people that smoke marlboro, or whatever, know what it should taste like

While there is truth to, a "Marlboro taste like a Marlboro"...the problem is no juice really taste like "Marlboro" And even if one person thought "Hey this Marlboro flavored juice is yummy!", someone else might say "Hey, this Marlboro juice taste like stale crackers" I don't think any juice vendor will ever totally clone a brand name analog flavor. Most companies go through extreme length to keep their recipes a secret. We know of some of the things they add to analogs like caramel, cocoa, and coffee to give their brand it's flavor. But we don't know everything they add to the recipe to give it that "Marlboro" taste. Who knows...maybe they add spinach to the blend to give it that trademark taste. We will most likely never know what gives that analog it's taste.

So I think even people who smoke Marlboro, know what a Marlboro taste like, they might be singling out a different flavor in that cig than another person. Maybe it's the caramel that gives it that good taste, to the next person it may be the coffee that gives it that taste. We all have different taste buds, and are more sensitive to certain flavors more than others. So it makes it more difficult to take someone else's review as accurate to your own taste-buds and preferences. But I do think if one juice flavor is extremely popular, then it's got a good chance being like by myself.

Well anyways, just my 2 cents. But I rarely know what I'm talking about, and ramble incoherently most of the time.

 

[Dr. Russell Fell]

i doubt it. sorry, but tastes are not that subjective. everyone knows peanut butter tastes like peanut butter. i never heard someone say peanut butter taste like goat testicle.

and Running Wolf.. you pretty much sabbotaged your own explanation; "millions of people like mc donalds"... yea, thats because it taste good. hence tastes generally run alike. your just a rare exception not to like it. im pretty new to vaping, but i have a strong feeling its mostly due to attys and voltage.

Actually, that's a bit of a problematic argument. Millions might like McDonalds, but millions more can and will do without it. I mean, millions of people tune in and watch terrible television shows like "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" or "Jersey Shore" - some even know it's bad, but continue to tune in - but does that mean, according to your logic, that because millions of idiots enjoy brain rot, for some reason I, by default, will too? WAT?

Also, McDonalds tastes god awful. If that crap tastes good to you, you seriously need to re-evaluate your palette.

 

[Kind Head]

i doubt it. sorry, but tastes are not that subjective. everyone knows peanut butter tastes like peanut butter. i never heard someone say peanut butter taste like goat testicle.

and Running Wolf.. you pretty much sabbotaged your own explanation; "millions of people like mc donalds"... yea, thats because it taste good. hence tastes generally run alike. your just a rare exception not to like it.

1st off, I know not what goat testicle is like, nor do I intend to buy that flavor juice. LOL But the McDonalds thing, I hate Micky Ds, taste like, well... probably like goat testicle (if that's what goat testicles taste like). Just because their sign reads "Over 1 million served" or whatever, what about the other 6.9 billion people in the world? Could possibly be more haters for McDs than there are lovers. Just because millions of people love Mcds doesn't make it the majority of the world does (might be in this country though) They just don't make a big sign and advertise they don't like it. And I know I'm not alone. I know many people who hate Mcds. Baffles me how people ingest that garbage. That be a gross juice flavor "McDonalds Flavored E-juice) YUCK!

I aint trying to argue with you. Just sharing my opinion and mine alone.

 

[DeadPerfect]

weather you hate mc donalds or whatever isnt the point. it generally tastes the same to you as the guy that does like it. you just dont prefer the flavor. im talking about a juice tasting being wildly different to one person than the next. it isnt about preference in general. its about flavor recognition consistency from person to person.

generally people recognize the same flavors. if a liquid (say Marlboro) is liked by alot of people who are familiar with what marlboro taste like, but then ten people who know what it should taste like totally recognize a different flavor, that aint taste buds. its an inconsistency somewhere.

something i did not take into concideration is that from what ive read, juice changes flavor as it ages. it could also be that vendors are just simply selling older juice mixes to different people, thus the wild review inconsistencies.

 

[martinc]

That and offer inexpensive samples with little/no shipping.

Yup,something like order X-30ml and get 2 x-ml samples free to try

 

[classwife]

I see you mention "on-site reviews" have you noticed ECF's E-Liquid Reviews ?

 

[pizza2me]

Personally, I don't give much credit to reviews on the vendors sites. I look more for opinions here on ecf. If I see enough folks that seem to like what I like, saying good things (and descriptions) about the juice, I give it a shot.

I def agree with what somebody said above, many vendors could do well with better descriptions of their juice. "Tobacco" or "menthol" mean SO many different things.