Mixing e liquid

[Vaping-rookie]

Hello i just decided to start mixing my own liquid and for that i am bit unsure on two things :
Can i taste the flavour after mixing it?

How do i mix if my vase is both pg/vg (50 %) do i just count one drop as one of each

 

[NealBJr]

I just recently started mixing my own as well. For taste, it all depends on the flavoring you use. Some flavorings need some steep time. You'll be able to taste it, it just won't be up to it's full potential until after steeping. Some flavors need no steep time. In general, the caramel/custard flavors almost definitely need some steeping time, but many of the fruity flavors can be vaped right after mixing with no steep time needed.

as far as drops goes...... there is no one number, since some liquids are thicker than others. thicker liquids will create a bigger drop. In general, water like liquids, each drop is .05 milliliters, so 20 drops is 1 milliliter. If you have a thicker liquid, like VG, it will be slightly less, but I am not sure by how much.

 

[Completely Average]

Some people measure with drops, some measure with scales, personally I prefer blunt tip syringes.

When measuring with drops generally speaking 20 drops = 1ml.

 

[Vaping-rookie]

I just recently started mixing my own as well. For taste, it all depends on the flavoring you use. Some flavorings need some steep time. You'll be able to taste it, it just won't be up to it's full potential until after steeping. Some flavors need no steep time. In general, the caramel/custard flavors almost definitely need some steeping time, but many of the fruity flavors can be vaped right after mixing with no steep time needed.

as far as drops goes...... there is no one number, since some liquids are thicker than others. thicker liquids will create a bigger drop. In general, water like liquids, each drop is .05 milliliters, so 20 drops is 1 milliliter. If you have a thicker liquid, like VG, it will be slightly less, but I am not sure by how much.

Ok thanks. Can i vape my product right away or does it need to rest ?

 

[Vaping-rookie]

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Ok thanks. Can i vape my product right away or does it need to rest ?

Sorry didnt see the full thread

 

[DavidOck]

Expanding on what Neal said, in general "heavy" flavors generally benefit from some time steeping. Light flavors, candies, fruits and such, are generally good to go right after mixing. And some will benefit from having the cap off while steeping, as well.

 

[Maestro]

The two most essential items are a scale and an ejuice calculator, like ejuice me up. Mixing by weight is the most accurate, and requires no clean up. The calculator will tell you precisely how much of each to add. When you've done it this way, you won't want to do it any other way.

 

[AzPlumber]

Drops are a poor unit of measurement. Depending on viscosity and method drops per ml can vary from 15 to 50.

 

[daviedog]

No matter what system you use to measure,,you should taste immediately.
Not so good? Allow to rest & taste in a day. Keep notes & you'll get a feel for flavors, diffusion times..

 

[BrotherBob]

Might like to read:
dannyv45's blog | E-Cigarette Forum
Particularly:
Everything you wanted to know about steeping and then some.

 

[mase21]

watch this

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[Imfallen_Angel]

For your questions:

1) Yes you can taste, but most liquids require steeping aka just sitting there, getting a shake now and then, and squeezing the air out for the alcohols to be removed (which can give liquids a bad aftertaste) once of twice in the fist few days.

Some liquids are fine right away after being shaken but won't be as good as can be. SOme take about a week, others up to 3 weeks.

You can accelerate this process a few ways, but at a possible bit of a loss of quality. Microwaving for 5-10 seconds is one, but not very popular but does work a bit. Using ultrasonic cleaners to vibrate the liquid can take days off the steeping period. Using a small blender can also work, but ensure that it's sanitized/100% clean as you need to transfer into the bottles after.

Just remember to ventilate your liquids at least twice in the first few days,BEFORE you shake the bottles. Shake them vigorously until you see a uniform amount of air bubbles throughout.

2) unless you really need to be crazy accurate as if it's the end of the world, just use any technique that works for you.. I use drops for single bottles, measuring cylinders for large batches. Lot easier than the math involved with balances, and the cleanup is a big whoopee-doo of a 5 seconds rinsing of the cylinders. As many flavouring comes in PG (unless stated otherwise), the difference is again, quite small. I use 50/50 base and it's never been an issue once.

I've redone recipes many times, and not once did my off-side mixing methods done anything wrong or bad... they always have come out just fine.

Do go get the calculator though to have the guidance for quantities, and check out e-recipe sites for percentage for the flavours, recommended percentages for alone or in mixes.
Here's what I use, but there's plenty of others out there:

eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator

http://..................../

Have fun!

 

[NealBJr]

The two most essential items are a scale and an ejuice calculator, like ejuice me up. Mixing by weight is the most accurate, and requires no clean up. The calculator will tell you precisely how much of each to add. When you've done it this way, you won't want to do it any other way.

That is all too true.. but I'm never exact with my measurements. I vape 6mg/ml. I chose PG as the base for the nic because of it's viscosity even when near freezing. It is close enough for me... if it's even off by %25, that still +/- 1mg/ml, so it's no biggie.

 

[DavidOck]

If mixing by weight, make sure to plug in the right values for each specific liquid. Weight per ml is different for PG and VG.

 

[Maestro]

That is all too true.. but I'm never exact with my measurements. I vape 6mg/ml. I chose PG as the base for the nic because of it's viscosity even when near freezing. It is close enough for me... if it's even off by %25, that still +/- 1mg/ml, so it's no biggie.

That's true. However when you're making small test batches 10ml or less, a little variation in the flavoring will really affect the test. Measuring to the 100th of a gram will give you more consistent results.

 

[Forkeh]

I mix with syringes, because ballparking it is good enough for me. Some people want a more exact nicotine percentage, and PG/VG ratio. They use scales. Some people even measure by drops. All of the above is perfectly fine. The important thing is that you end up with a vape you like (and don't grossly misjudge your nicotine percentage to the point you make yourself sick). If I were you I'd start out with syringes, just because it's cheap and easy and it'll give you a good idea if DIY is something you'd like to continue doing before you invest in a scale (if you'd like one).

And yeah, you can vape your mix right away. It's just that some juices taste better after they've been aged a while. But, again, in my opinion, some don't. I have at least one mix that I prefer to vape fresh. And a bucket load of mixes that taste way better aged. But I always taste a new batch immediately. That way I can tell if I'm way off on something, or if it's just not good. Aging can do a lot to improve, mellow, and blend flavors, but in my opinion, it's not going to fix a juice that's just a bad flavor combination from the get go.

 

[lamarrk]

Moving this to DIY E-Liquids for a more directed audience.
Good luck on your DIY adventures!

 

[dobroeutro]

I found the video in post #11 & this thread, "Mixing By Weight: Basics 101", very helpful when I started DIY.