mixing with a hand sander
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Yes the sander will work... whatever gets the shake on! Yes a hand shaking can help mix things up but to shake to the point where you start to break down molecules is another matter all together. And yes adding heated water around the bottle does help with this process. I use a frothier right after I mix to help get tons of air in the mix then let it clear and repeat. This oxygenates the mix and helps with the breakdown so the flavors form new molecules as they rebond, bottle then off to the UltraSonic for a couple of hours of heated shaking at about 80deg.
when i started out making juice, hand shaking wasnt a problem, i even used a milk frother, but i was only mixing 20-30ml at a time & mostly always 50/50 pg/vg juice, nowadays my mix session consists of juice at about 80% vg & somewhere in the region of 5x 50ml, the solution i've come to is to plonk all the bottles in a bath of hot water and one at a time give them a whizz in my jigsaw, back in the bath & repeat with the jigsaw, it kicks some .... & saves alot of manual labour 
Jeeeze ... It is not my intension to laugh at anyone here, but I think some of you folks are taking this way too much to the extreme.
Just put the cap on the bottle and give it a few hard and fast shakes with your hand .... Your not going to mix your juice anymore than that!
The molecular structure of you juice ain't going to change at all just because your vibrating the hell out of it with a sawzall, random orbital sander, or something like that.
Ever hear the old expression .... "You got way too much time on your hands"!
Just put the cap on the bottle and give it a few hard and fast shakes with your hand .... Your not going to mix your juice anymore than that!
The molecular structure of you juice ain't going to change at all just because your vibrating the hell out of it with a sawzall, random orbital sander, or something like that.
Ever hear the old expression .... "You got way too much time on your hands"!
You Could use a Sawz-All. Or a Hand Sander. Or Tap the Bottles to your Ceiling Fan Blades. But all that seems like Work.
I just put a Freshly Mixed Bottle in one of these and run it for about a Week.
After a Week, if the Cap on the Bottle Hasn't come off, my e-Liquid Tasted Great.
Of Course, it Tastes the Same as if I had just put my e-Liquid in a Cool, Dark Place for 7 Days. But if I did that, I wouldn't have an Excuse to buy a Rock Tumbler now would I?
I just put a Freshly Mixed Bottle in one of these and run it for about a Week.
After a Week, if the Cap on the Bottle Hasn't come off, my e-Liquid Tasted Great.
Of Course, it Tastes the Same as if I had just put my e-Liquid in a Cool, Dark Place for 7 Days. But if I did that, I wouldn't have an Excuse to buy a Rock Tumbler now would I?
You Could use a Sawz-All. Or a Hand Sander. Or Tap the Bottles to your Ceiling Fan Blades. But all that seems like Work.
I just put a Freshly Mixed Bottle in one of these and run it for about a Week.
After a Week, if the Cap on the Bottle Hasn't come off, my e-Liquid Tasted Great.
Of Course, it Tastes the Same as if I had just put my e-Liquid in a Cool, Dark Place for 7 Days. But if I did that, I wouldn't have an Excuse to buy a Rock Tumbler now would I?
I love rock tumblers! Turn simple COPYRIGHTDMCA into little jewels. But if you think steeping e-juice requires patience, rock tumbling easily bumps that up an order of magnitude.
I was just thinking ... I reload .45 ACP handgun cartridges.
Before reloading, I clean and shine the brass cases in a 'Lyman' 1200 Auto-Flo Turbo Tumbler which is filled with crushed walnut shells.
This thing vibrates like something you just wouldn't believe! .... Maybe you could throw a bottle of juice in there for about 12 hours and let it vibrate itself to oblivion?
Before reloading, I clean and shine the brass cases in a 'Lyman' 1200 Auto-Flo Turbo Tumbler which is filled with crushed walnut shells.
This thing vibrates like something you just wouldn't believe! .... Maybe you could throw a bottle of juice in there for about 12 hours and let it vibrate itself to oblivion?
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This thing vibrates like something you just wouldn't believe! .... Maybe you could throw a bottle of juice in there for about 12 hours and let it vibrate itself to oblivion?
Yeah... And the Outside of the Bottle would be Nice and Smooth Also.
Sounds like it would also "clean and shine" the outside of the bottle too!
(Maybe remove old labels?)
At least... a definite Two-fer!
Ron
I made a stainless steel mixing paddle out of a kabab skewer and use it in a dremel. I put a 30mil bottle in hot water for a few mins then mix with the dremel on setting 3. Any faster and centrifugal forces bend the paddle in the bottle and break the glass bottle. Found that out the hard way!!!!!
Jeeeze ... It is not my intension to laugh at anyone here, but I think some of you folks are taking this way too much to the extreme.
Just put the cap on the bottle and give it a few hard and fast shakes with your hand .... Your not going to mix your juice anymore than that!
The molecular structure of you juice ain't going to change at all just because your vibrating the hell out of it with a sawzall, random orbital sander, or something like that.
Ever hear the old expression .... "You got way too much time on your hands"!
Extreme!
... nope! just clever
1. remove hubcaps from truck. 2. insert 3 or 4 bottles of juice behind hubcaps. 3. replace hubcaps. 4. drive to work. 5. let sit in sun all day. 6. drive truck home...
Works great if you have a pickup truck and live on a bumpy dirt road...
Works great if you have a pickup truck and live on a bumpy dirt road...
Back to the original question, in my limited experience I find heat to be much more useful than extreme mixing/shaking. I used a food dehydrator to heat some juice at 130-135 deg. F for three hours, and it made a huge difference, far more than many sessions of heating it in hot tap water (120 deg. F) and vigorous shaking by hand.
Others have reported very good results using a crockpot (slow cooker) and keeping it near 150 F, but I am still using plastic bottles for now and did not want to push the limits on the plastic. But according to many others on this forum, 4 hours at 150 F in a crockpot will completely do the job.
And then there are ultrasonic cleaners, which provide heat and vibration and probably provide the best results, but I have not tried that yet. There are a few threads dedicated to that here.
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