Mobile Power Packs

[Mikie Likes It]

Hi Everyone. I just had a suggestion I though might be helpful to share. I just picked up a APC Mobile Power Pack which I plan on using with my 510 pass through. It is 10w and has a 55 hour run time for ipods.

I imagine this will be many more hours for direct vaping, but would anyone have an idea how much longer?

I picked one up for $18.00 new from ebay. Here is the link, but I think the cheapest one listed is $29.95, but is still not bad considering retail price is $50-$70.00

NEW APC UNIVERSAL MOBILE POWER PACK UPB10 - eBay (item 320387531167 end time Jul-22-09 00:50:40 PDT)

 

[Lanceman_1]

Please let us know how it works out.

Lance

 

[PuffinStuff]

Hi Mikey, I have a Kensington PP I think it is similar. I use it for my Janty Stick or 801 pt and it will work all day. I have never been able to run it down yet. I love it.

 

[dedmonwakin]

There is a review on it
YouTube - Parked's Review APC Mobile Power Pack PureSmokers USB Passthrough e-cigarette Battery 901 & 801

Wish I could find spec's.
55 hours and 10watts isn't a good enough description

 

[johnaburks]

I love the Kensington one, which I'm guessing is the same thing.

 

[Mikie Likes It]

I plan on letting it charge over night and then vaping away the whole day tomorrow with it. I will run it down completely and see how many hours I get. You know what would also be nice is a pass thru that plugs into my cig lighter in my car. Anyone ever hear of that?

 

[Mikie Likes It]

Please let us know how it works out.

Lance

Will do sir.

 

[Mikie Likes It]

Hi Mikey, I have a Kensington PP I think it is similar. I use it for my Janty Stick or 801 pt and it will work all day. I have never been able to run it down yet. I love it.

I think this is the bees knees. I hope it works as well as yours. Not quite sure how it will look clipped to my belt, and with a wire connected to some foreign object with smoke coming out of it! No seriously great for an all day event or long trips, anywhere without power.

 

[Myth Sammich]

......You know what would also be nice is a pass thru that plugs into my cig lighter in my car. Anyone ever hear of that?

I have the 510 USB passthrough. I went to Wally World and bought a car USB adapter... you can find cheap ones in the car audio section sold with a cassette audio adapter for like 8 bucks. Just locate a 12v to USB adapter and ur golden.

 

[dedmonwakin]

Li-po's do not require overnight charging. That's a practice conducted for Ni-Cad batteries. Li-pos do not have cell memory, so once fully charged your good to go...same for your e-cig.

Li-lithium too is absent of cell memory, and is confused with digital memory when told to charge your phone fully for the first time.

Digital memory can be corrected, deteriorated cell memory can not be.

 

[Mikie Likes It]

Li-po's do not require overnight charging. That's a practice conducted for Ni-Cad batteries. Li-pos do not have cell memory, so once fully charged your good to go...same for your e-cig.

Li-lithium too is absent of cell memory, and is confused with digital memory when told to charge your phone fully for the first time.

Digital memory can be corrected, deteriorated cell memory can not be.

That is great to know. Thank you very much, and thanks for the review. I have a 510 and six batteries. I spent all that time charging every one 8 hours, using them for 20 mins and then recharging for an hour. That sux if I did all that for nothing. Have you ever compared, took one 510 battery did the 8 hour initial charge etc, and another 510 battery used it right out of the package? If so, did they both retain the same life? I tried doing it with one, and I marked it with a scratch on the led, but being absent minded, I forgot which one the scratch referred to. Duhrrr.

 

[dedmonwakin]

That is great to know. Thank you very much, and thanks for the review. I have a 510 and six batteries. I spent all that time charging every one 8 hours, using them for 20 mins and then recharging for an hour. That sux if I did all that for nothing. Have you ever compared, took one 510 battery did the 8 hour initial charge etc, and another 510 battery used it right out of the package? If so, did they both retain the same life? I tried doing it with one, and I marked it with a scratch on the led, but being absent minded, I forgot which one the scratch referred to. Duhrrr.

Again, no cell memory exsists in Li-po's. There should be no initial charge.
Despite popular belief, these e-cigs are protected from overcharge and discharge. This is necessary when dealing with Li-po's.

Over discharged, means you can run it down to a point that it will never hold a charge again. (There is a way to re-instill life back into the dead li-po, commonly used by R/C hobbyist, but not easily or possible to do with the e-cig, since it required dismantling of the battery housing.) This is why your e-cig will constantly keep blinking every time you attempt a drag when battery life is low...it won't let you, drain it.

If your battery is functioning properly (the status light while charging) some go from red to blue once done or yellow to red.

This indicates that it is done, for convenience...not to remove as soon as possible. The charger will stop charging once the battery is at aprox 4.2v to prevent it from overcharging......overcharging is really bad. This is likely to cause an explosion. It may be small due to the size of the device....but nonetheless, very dangerous. (Imagine hot molten polymer and fire exploding in a 3-5 foot radius and that's just an estimate)

I've had this happen, charging 11.1v Li-po's for my R/C helicopters, twice using the car battery when out in the field. Really big fire produced from a really big battery.

Comparing an 8 hour charged 510 to a charged 510 pulled out as soon as the status lights, should have the same results as mentioned previously do to the overcharge protection circuit built into your e-cig and charger.

There are variables do to inconsistent battery productions with in the e-cig market. As mentioned, your battery that is 8 hour charged(charged in 1-2 hours really) may last you 20 minutes, and others last 1-2 hours.

 

[thejapanesefrog]

I got a 'charge card' which is a portable battery charger and it works great. You can google fat cat power charge card to see what it is exactly. Charges up fast on my computer. I have been using it for everything (phone, camera, mp3 player) and now that I have an e-cig I use the female usb piece to plug in my charger. Great when I'm not near a computer. I'm sure there are other chargers like this. My friend sells them, but these particular ones aren't available everywhere.

 

[dedmonwakin]

I got a 'charge card' which is a portable battery charger and it works great. You can google fat cat power charge card to see what it is exactly. Charges up fast on my computer. I have been using it for everything (phone, camera, mp3 player) and now that I have an e-cig I use the female usb piece to plug in my charger. Great when I'm not near a computer. I'm sure there are other chargers like this. My friend sells them, but these particular ones aren't available everywhere.

You mean this one?Google Image Result for https://stuffjunction.com/catalog/images/Untitled-1.jpg

What are the spec's on it? I see 2000 mAh, but what's the amperage, not volts.

 

[D05GTO]

I certainly agree with Dedmon on this one. Li-po chargers will do nothing after the intial 4.2 volts are reached. You could leave it on for a week before it would actually turn back on from battery voltage drop. Now if you must, leave it on until the battery charges stops charging. Use it for 20 minutes and put it back on. Again, this probably isn't necessary to cycle the battery.

Cycling batteries *high charge/discharge multiple times* was done to Ni-cads to condition the batteries. So they would hold more charge and have a higher discharge amperage.

D

 

[dedmonwakin]

I certainly agree with Dedmon on this one. Li-po chargers will do nothing after the intial 4.2 volts are reached. You could leave it on for a week before it would actually turn back on from battery voltage drop. Now if you must, leave it on until the battery charges stops charging. Use it for 20 minutes and put it back on. Again, this probably isn't necessary to cycle the battery.

Cycling batteries *high charge/discharge multiple times* was done to Ni-cads to condition the batteries. So they would hold more charge and have a higher discharge amperage.

D

Exactly, but not so sure about having to cycle the battery. There are many good things about using li-po's in regards to vapor production and heat generation. But improper info, or a lack thereof, contributes to a negative experience with the e-cig.

There are good things about keeping the cig in for extended periods of time....and that's for storage purposes.

What most people don't know, is that if you fully charge a Li-po, and do not intend to use it immediately and go through the day or week without using it....you've lessened it's ability to hold a charge. (Surprised to hear the reverse affects of a Ni-cad?lol)

Hopefully this explains why the life of the battery for many, rapidly deteriorates.

Those who have PCC's and can keep the spare battery in it charging while it's being stored, have better experiences with the battery life.

Now, here's some conflicting info, again.

You shouldn't keep your Li-po's charging, unattended, especially for extended periods of time. Again, Li-po's are dangerous. Things fail.
Should the charger fail, hopefully it has a smart protection board on it, to prevent it from working at all. If not, the battery will continue to charge beyond it's holding.

Hope this doesn't scare anyone, but....this wasn't a toy to begin with.

 

[thejapanesefrog]

You mean this one?Google Image Result for https://stuffjunction.com/catalog/images/Untitled-1.jpg

What are the spec's on it? I see 2000 mAh, but what's the amperage, not volts.

I'm looking on the back of mine.
Capacity: 2000mah
7.4 wh

In: DC4.5-5.5v
out: DC5.5+0.2v

 

[ViZi]

Here is the link, but I think the cheapest one listed is $29.95, but is still not bad considering retail price is $50-$70.00

NEW APC UNIVERSAL MOBILE POWER PACK UPB10 - eBay (item 320387531167 end time Jul-22-09 00:50:40 PDT)

Is this thing genuine? Looks a bit too cheap?

 

[Jerfer]

Hey guys, those of you more experienced with batteries and voltage, have you seen the solar powered usb port batteries? There's one in particular I was looking at. Google: USB Solar Mobile Charger(2600mAh)

How well do you think it would work?