Mod set on fire!

[crxess]

3.56v, I'd give it time to stabilize and charge it.
Let it sit a day or two and read its charge. 4.10v+ would indicate it is holding properly.

A Chip failure, smoke/fire?? is not necessarily a battery killer. Voltage looks okay and these batteries have been tested to a 100a Burst so they will take a load.
If the Battery was not to hot to pull it was likely nowhere near runaway.

Sorry to hear of your mod failing.

 

[jasonculp]

Something else to worry about! I never remove my batteries at night when I go to bed.

I recently quit charging my batteries unless I am around after reading about possible problems. Now it looks like I will have to remove the batteries too! I have all of APVs with internal batteries turned off. I hope this is good enough.

I hate that this happened to you, this stuff isn't cheap!

 

[supertrunker]

Yeah, I don't know the answer either.

I'm cheap so don't want to recycle a good battery. But, its a $6 battery that could wreck another mod or cause injury. The safest thing to do would be to replace it.

Why?

T

 

[roxynoodle]

Why?

T

Because I'm worried it could ruin another mod or I could get hurt. Dang, I nearly burned my fingers off today, lol! And lost an $82 mod. If I lose another mod I'm going to cry!

Yes, all mods will be turned off and/or have batteries removed when I'm not with them or sleeping.

 

[ENAUD]

Lucky you were there, caught it in time, and reacted quickly! Hopefully you get some answers and the company takes an interest in finding out why this happened.

 

[Fictitious Character]

Not temp control, but the other safety features, yes.

It is a Yihi chip. That was confirmed through impeccable sources before I bought it. I also tested it across the voltage range, and the most it was off was 3/1000 of a volt. I'm not blaming Yihi. Its most likely a Hotcig issue. I have 5 other mods with Yihi chips.

I took pics, but my phone needed to charge. Pretty soon I should be able to post them.

I have only seen reports of Yihi denying that it is their chip in the zero clone, but to be fair I have not done any first hand digging just the tid bits of info I see in the forums and what not.

 

[keepsmiling]

Not to worry my friend. I will send you 4 X batteries this week.

 

[Frenchfry1942]

I'm glad that this is in the APV Discussion forum. When I see a mod that I am not familiar with, I go into this forum and search for it. A post like yours would have me reading to learn why.

I am still snooping around for a wooden box mod. Searching is part of the hobby.

 

[roxynoodle]

I have only seen reports of Yihi denying that it is their chip in the zero clone, but to be fair I have not done any first hand digging just the tid bits of info I see in the forums and what not.

They are denying it. Don't ask me why, but Yihi feels they are superior than other Chinese companies. Initially Eacheley/Hotcig published it was a Yihi chip and then Yihi cut them off for awhile So now they have to say it isn't. Don't ask me to explain another culture

 

[roxynoodle]

I'm glad that this is in the APV Discussion forum. When I see a mod that I am not familiar with, I go into this forum and search for it. A post like yours would have me reading to learn why.

I am still snooping around for a wooden box mod. Searching is part of the hobby.

I love these mods, but now I'm canceling the one I bought last night. Might be a freak thing, but it scared the poop out of me.

 

[Technonut]

Something else to worry about! I never remove my batteries at night when I go to bed.

I recently quit charging my batteries unless I am around after reading about possible problems. Now it looks like I will have to remove the batteries too! I have all of APVs with internal batteries turned off. I hope this is good enough.

I hate that this happened to you, this stuff isn't cheap!

Safety when charging batteries is often overlooked, and some of the chargers available out there are no better constructed than these devices. When my XTAR VP1 is being used, it's either on a large plate-glass top end-table with nothing flammable around it, on a metal filing cabinet, inside of a heavy-gauge metal bread-pan, or inside of a LiPo charging bag.

Until the day comes when these devices are tested by an independent, impartial, entity before being released to consumers (like most home-electronics), safety for your family, yourself, and your home is not to be overlooked... These devices are being produced and rushed to market like some of the cheap flea-market electronic goods / toys I used to see back in the mid 70's..

Folks need to exhibit patience, and demand that these products be thoroughly tested.. sure, it may delay getting it in one's hand as quickly as they like, but at least it would be a safer bet than what is being practiced now.

 

[edyle]

I find that hard to believe. Doesn't damage to a battery show up as increased internal resistance which can be measured?

In the same way that old batteries gradually diminish in performance.

It occurs to me that if you are right, nobody has any idea about ANY battery, even a brand new one.

T

Should be able to check for high voltage drop.

 

[supertrunker]

My point and question is really why you think a newer battery is better than than the one involved in this, when nothing suggests that anything that happened would worry a Samsung like that anyway.

I'm cheap too and i'll be rasped raw before i toss a perfectly good battery to superstition.

$6 does not get you peace of mind, but $82 sure makes you think!

T

 

[zoiDman]

Well, now it happened to me The mod is a Hotcig sx Zero. I hadn't vaped it in over an hour. It was in my vape stand and suddenly flames were coming out! I threw it out into the snow. I did remove the battery on my way to the door, but I'm sure the battery is ruined as well. My house stinks and I'm shaking.

I have (I guess had) 3 of these mods.

WOW!

I am VERY Glad that you are OK. And that this Happened while you were Home and Not Asleep.

I don't usually leave Batteries in Mods when they are not I Use. After reading what happened to you, I don't think I will be in the Future.

Once Again, Glad you are OK.

 

[fogging_katrider]

When it happened you mentioned the battery was not hot. You also mentioned the atty wasn't hot either.
If it had been a situiation caused by the mod auto firing it would have torched the wick dry and if cotton would have surely burnt the wick to ash in the process. If the battery were the cause, the battery would have been too hot to touch without getting burned in the process of pulling it out and the battery would be dead showing very little or no voltage. So the battery is probably still ok.

I'd say it definately was the control board/wiring at fault here for sure.

I'm not blaming you in any way, but is there any chance you might have had some e-juice leaking down the 510 into the mod at any time recently? I don't know, but maybe juice can conduct enough electricity to short chips out if theres enough juice to get sucked underneath the chip on the board (capillary action). And juice is flammable if theres enough heat and/or a spark

On the battery, "if in doubt throw it out". That is the best way to have peace of mind about any question or worries about it.

 

[Ian444]

My point and question is really why you think a newer battery is better than than the one involved in this, when nothing suggests that anything that happened would worry a Samsung like that anyway.

I'm cheap too and i'll be rasped raw before i toss a perfectly good battery to superstition.

$6 does not get you peace of mind, but $82 sure makes you think!

T

How does anyone know there wasn't a 100amp discharge for 30 milliseconds that partially took out some of the seperator? How does anyone know the battery is safe? It may be fine or it might not be.

Maybe I'm overly cautious, I work with cells of a safer chemistry at my workplace and have seen a couple of catastrophic failures from cells "known" to be in good condition. So that's where I'm coming from.

Each to their own.

 

[roxynoodle]

No, no e juice leaks nor exposure to any other liquid.

Here is the screen:

Here is bubbled polyurethane or something:

I do think removing the battery stopped the fire. I have a feeling the inside must be pretty charred though considering how awful it smells. If they don't ask for it back then I will open it to see if I can pinpoint the exact failure.

 

[roxynoodle]

Yeah, I'm ditching the battery, folks. Its just not worth it to me to find out. I have a feeling its fine, but...well, its a big but if its not. The atty was easily checked. The battery...I'm too scared to try it again. Its my $6 to throw away.

 

[zoiDman]

Yeah, I'm ditching the battery, folks. Its just not worth it to me to find out. I have a feeling its fine, but...well, its a big but if its not. The atty was easily checked. The battery...I'm too scared to try it again. Its my $6 to throw away.

I would Never fell comfortable using a that Battery.

6 Bucks is Less than I used to spend on a Pack of Smokes in 1 Day. And that was about 4 Years ago when Cigarettes were Cheaper.

 

[roxynoodle]

My first problem is I need to buy a mod. The $6 battery is the least of my concerns at the moment.