Model numbers and Bloog names

[twoskinsoneman]

Model numbers comparable to suppliers names

I'm a noob and confused about the model numbers.
I purchased The Bloog Maxxfusion and really like it...
But I'm confused about the different names number for the models...
I've heard of all these as referenced to the two piece model (bat and cartomizer):
E-8
E-9
Kr808d-1
Kr808d-2
which is the maxxfusion? (I heard this is the latest and greatest cartomizer)
which is the newest cartomizer?
which is compatible with what?
When litecigusa list " KR808D-1 PREMIUM Blank Soft Cap Cartomizers" is it the same as the maxxfusion carts?
Is the "KR808D-1 Automatic Battery" the same as the maxxfusion bat?
Will a Kr808d-2 cart work on a maxxfusion bat?
Help

Thanks​

 

[crbrown]

I can only answer part of your questions

When litecigusa list " KR808D-1 PREMIUM Blank Soft Cap Cartomizers" is it the same as the maxxfusion carts? no, its the older kind that has the wire in it
Is the "KR808D-1 Automatic Battery" the same as the maxxfusion bat? No, the Bloog has a different switch that activates sooner on the draw
Will a Kr808d-2 cart work on a maxxfusion bat?
No it wont, those are threaded a little different.

 

[DeeLeeKay]

I have no idea what a Kr808d-2 is. I believe the Bloog to be a Kr808d-1. I have tried several kr808d-1 cartomizers and they are not all created equal. Hands down the best is the bloog cartomizers.

I am not going into other batteries or cartomizers that are compatable with with the bloog. This is the bloog subforum. If you want to go with other suppliers I suggest you go to another forum.

The bloog batteries are longer lasting then other compatable kr808d-1 batts. They have a higher mAh rating.

 

[twoskinsoneman]

I can only answer part of your questions

When litecigusa list " KR808D-1 PREMIUM Blank Soft Cap Cartomizers" is it the same as the maxxfusion carts? no, its the older kind that has the wire in it
Is the "KR808D-1 Automatic Battery" the same as the maxxfusion bat? No, the Bloog has a different switch that activates sooner on the draw
Will a Kr808d-2 cart work on a maxxfusion bat?
No it wont, those are threaded a little different.

Thanks for what info you have... Just trying to get an understanding of what is out there. It is unreal the attitudes... I'm starting to realize this is not really a place to come for help... It is a place of like minded people to hang out and talk about how THERE way of doing a thing is the BEST way.... and if you don't agree then "I suggest you go to another forum" boy!

 

[DeeLeeKay]

Thanks for what info you have... Just trying to get an understanding of what is out there. It is unreal the attitudes... I'm starting to realize this is not really a place to come for help... It is a place of like minded people to hang out and talk about how THERE way of doing a thing is the BEST way.... and if you don't agree then "I suggest you go to another forum" boy!

These people are in business. Would you go to Burger King and Demand they talk about MCDonalds?

The general forums are much more suited to handle general questions about products. They would have more(maybe not specific people, but generally speaking) people who have dealt with a variety of products. The bloog is a Kr808d-1. But these are not the only products on the market. You have the 510's and such. I would no more go to a forum about Ego's or Riva's or Mods for information on a Kr808.

The point is this is a specific model type. This forum costs the company money on a monthly basis. Should they have to pay for other companies advertisements?

It is not about trying to limit, but rather giving you a heads up that this might not be the best place to get your questions answered in an objective way. People on this forum have their minds already made up. I have tried several brands of kr808 batteries and to me the bloog is the only way to go. I am not going to recommend something I have already decided is second best. If you want an objective opinion the general forum will have people who have decided that another brand is a better battery for themselves so they do not come to the bloog subforum.

 

[Gardner808]

Regarding the Bloog products, only KR808D-1 is relevant. Without some kind of adapter none of the other sizes will fit the batteries.

The person wasn't really trying to be an ... to you but trying to direct you to a place that is more likely to have the answer you seek. Meaning that you typically would not go into a bar that hosts the Packer fans and ask them about the Steelers. Additionally, it is a matter of forum decorum. This subforum was created for the express purpose of allowing Bloog and its customers to connect. Most of your questions are generic to KR808D-1 and belong properly in the Model Specific Forum here: KR808D-1

Having said that, Leaford does not care if you ask those questions here, so it doesn't bother me. For many, and they have a point, it is an issue of respect.

 

[crbrown]

Thanks for what info you have... Just trying to get an understanding of what is out there. It is unreal the attitudes... I'm starting to realize this is not really a place to come for help... It is a place of like minded people to hang out and talk about how THERE way of doing a thing is the BEST way.... and if you don't agree then "I suggest you go to another forum" boy!

Yes that can happen and it is most unfortunate. You'll learn the hard way that vendor sub-forums are not the place for those kind of questions, and that's not just this one, all are like that (even when they claim their not). I think if you tried asking these questions in the new members forum or in the sub forum for kr808 or carto's you would find more helpful answers.

lol I can see I'm repeating what has already been stated

 

[twoskinsoneman]

YI think if you tried asking these questions in the new members forumyou would find more helpful answers.

lol I can see I'm repeating what has already been stated

For what it is worth I did post it in the noobs forum first...
The only response I got was...
"I'm not entirely sure which model the BMF is (possibly KR808D-1?)....you may have better luck posting your question over on the Bloog Electronic Cigarette forum.

Hope this helps!"


This person prolly didn't know they were sending me into the danger zone

 

[crbrown]

For what it is worth I did post it in the noobs forum first...
The only response I got was...
"I'm not entirely sure which model the BMF is (possibly KR808D-1?)....you may have better luck posting your question over on the Bloog Electronic Cigarette forum.

Hope this helps!"


This person prolly didn't know they were sending me into the danger zone

lol...just cant win

 

[Frick]

It's not the danger zone, it's just not considered good form to ask about other products in a particular vendor's sub-forum. Leaford is actually very generous to allow us to discuss other products, unlike a lot of other sub-forums.

BMF is a KR808D-1 device. KR808D-2 batteries and cartos have opposite threads -- the male threads are on the carto, and the female on the battery, like 501 equipment. They are usually sold by places like GreenCig and others who overcharge for batteries and cartos, and you end up with an "odd" design that's not compatible with more common batteries and cartos. E-9 and E-8 I'm not as sure about, but they aren't as common (and therefore 'future-proof') and KR808D-1 equipment.

There has been quite a bit of evolution in these devices, and the BMF is actually Bloog's third iteration of the e-cigarette. I've personally tried the cartos from V4L (what we refer to as the riV4L company -- credit to starsong), and they don't compare in the slightest to BMF cartos. I haven't tried their batteries, but their diamond series is supposed to be pretty good, if not quite the equal of the BMF batteries. It also seems from some reports that they may be fragile, and no have a very long expected life, but that's all anecdotal.

 

[twoskinsoneman]

It's not the danger zone, it's just not considered good form to ask about other products in a particular vendor's sub-forum. Leaford is actually very generous to allow us to discuss other products, unlike a lot of other sub-forums.

BMF is a KR808D-1 device. KR808D-2 batteries and cartos have opposite threads -- the male threads are on the carto, and the female on the battery, like 501 equipment. They are usually sold by places like GreenCig and others who overcharge for batteries and cartos, and you end up with an "odd" design that's not compatible with more common batteries and cartos. E-9 and E-8 I'm not as sure about, but they aren't as common (and therefore 'future-proof') and KR808D-1 equipment.

There has been quite a bit of evolution in these devices, and the BMF is actually Bloog's third iteration of the e-cigarette. I've personally tried the cartos from V4L (what we refer to as the riV4L company -- credit to starsong), and they don't compare in the slightest to BMF cartos. I haven't tried their batteries, but their diamond series is supposed to be pretty good, if not quite the equal of the BMF batteries. It also seems from some reports that they may be fragile, and no have a very long expected life, but that's all anecdotal.

Thanks for the info Frick!

 

[analog]

Dude, you're not in the danger zone, you're home! Welcome! Want some kool-aide? Better? Here let me throw on some tunes:

Revvin' up your engine
Listen to her howlin' roar
Metal under tension
Beggin' you to touch and go

Highway to the Danger Zone
Ride into the Danger Zone

yeah, well don't blame me, you're the one that made me think of kenny loggins!
The way I see it, leaford has openly invited comparison to other products because he feels strongly that BMF is better so why not talk about them. So I'll take a hit at a more thorough answering of your questions. I will admit that the one thing that I won't do is if bloog has a product that is identical to what someone else is selling I'm not going to refer you there in this forum. Cool?

I'm a noob and confused about the model numbers.
I purchased The Bloog Maxxfusion and really like it...
But I'm confused about the different names number for the models...

yeah I feel you, I was pretty confused not that long ago myself, but feel I have a pretty good handle on it. A general concept will help here. In the ecig world, model numbers we refer to aren't like other industries where a model number means specifically one exact model with exact features. Take a toaster. Model xxy is made by Co. A and is 400 watts. If Co. A makes a 450 watt toaster it will have a different model number. If Co. B makes a 400 watt toaster, it will have yet again a different model. In the ecig world, model numbers are more like a "class" or "type".

So not all "model" read: class KR808d-1 items are identical. Mostly they share width and connection threadings.

I've heard of all these as referenced to the two piece model (bat and cartomizer):
E-8
E-9
Kr808d-1
Kr808d-2

I think those are all 2-piece units, but that is all they have in common. They do not share performance, manufacturers, or even connections.

which is the maxxfusion?

the BMF is an updated version of the KR808D-1. It shares the width and connection threads of other 808d-1 units.

which is the newest cartomizer?

The newest bloog is the maxfusion cartomizer. There may be a couple other compatible cartos on the market that are newer than the maxfusion, but I don't think the newer ones offer any advantage over the bmf, and yes I would say so if I thought they did. Example, clear fillerless cartos have potential and there are some new ones on the market, but general consensus is they kinda suck, break and leak right now. Newer? Maybe. But depends on why you're asking you know? Why are you really asking? BTW if it's to see if there is anything newer and better out there, ask away so far as I'm concerned. Even if some think it impolite, at least I'd know exactly how to help ya.

which is compatible with what?

hm, well there are all sorts of cartos, for all sorts of models that are not compatible with the bloog. Short of going into a full history of the ecig, I really think if you have a bloog you are best off with bloog mf cartos. But there are other compatible cartos (any kr808d-1 carto will be compatible as in it will thread on and fire, but many/most? will not be compatible as in offer the same performance).

When litecigusa list " KR808D-1 PREMIUM Blank Soft Cap Cartomizers" is it the same as the maxxfusion carts?

Pretty sure no. It IS compatible as in it will screw on and fire. I don't have first hand experience, but I would guess performance would be OK on a bloog battery, but I don't think those would quite live up to the BMF cartos.

Is the "KR808D-1 Automatic Battery" the same as the maxxfusion bat?

No. Just about anyone naming it that is probably selling original design 808d-1's. Several companies have improved 808d-1 batteries that they don't hide as being 808d-1 compatible, but all the improved ones have a brand name too, like in our case the max fusion. Better switch, better battery life, regulated voltage, and better tactile finish are the traits that I prefer from bloog and I believe are only available from bloog.

Will a Kr808d-2 cart work on a maxxfusion bat?

No. think of kr808d-2 as beta max video tapes (wait, how old are you?) Maybe I should say think of ....um zip drives? laser discs? parallel ports? Whatever, they have different threads. Aside from that, there are no good 808d-2 cartos that I'm aware of, that model I think is dying out and nobody is developing it, I think.

Help

Thanks

Noprob, welcome aboard.
Tell us about you and your bloog. What size, color, flavor cartos etc. Are you quitting stinky sticks, or just testing waters?

OK, so looks like someone was way more concise than my wall o' text!!!!

 

[starsong]

I haven't tried their batteries, but their diamond series is supposed to be pretty good, if not quite the equal of the BMF batteries. It also seems from some reports that they may be fragile, and no have a very long expected life, but that's all anecdotal.

Thanks for the nod about the other company's nickname As for the diamond series, I withdraw my previous claim that they are similar to the Bloog battery. The only similarity is that neither require the primer puff. Both my diamonds died before they were 2 months old. The Bloog is still going strong. I've heard other people had the same problem. So when it came time to replace those, I bought 2 new Bloogs. They only cost a buck more, and it is worth it.

 

[starsong]

Analog, I think your wall of text was helpful, easy to read the Q & A that way.

 

[Frick]

Thanks for the nod about the other company's nickname As for the diamond series, I withdraw my previous claim that they are similar to the Bloog battery. The only similarity is that neither require the primer puff. Both my diamonds died before they were 2 months old. The Bloog is still going strong. I've heard other people had the same problem. So when it came time to replace those, I bought 2 new Bloogs. They only cost a buck more, and it is worth it.

You're welcome.

Ooh, a newer testimonial. Well, that's officially at least 4 people who have said their diamond batteries lived a short life. I don't want to draw any sweeping conclusions, but I'm certainly not reading about such issues with the BMF batteries here, unless I've missed it. I wonder, are they talking about it 'where the sun shines so brightly'?

 

[crbrown]

You're welcome.

Ooh, a newer testimonial. Well, that's officially at least 4 people who have said their diamond batteries lived a short life. I don't want to draw any sweeping conclusions, but I'm certainly not reading about such issues with the BMF batteries here, unless I've missed it. I wonder, are they talking about it 'where the sun shines so brightly'?

My diamond batteries are still alive...only because I don't use them.
The draw on them are horrible.

 

[Frick]

My diamond batteries are still alive...only because I don't use them.
The draw on them are horrible.

See, that I hadn't heard. I heard they were very similar, didn't need the primer-puff, just that they seemed to have some reliability and length-of-service issues.

 

[crbrown]

See, that I hadn't heard. I heard they were very similar, didn't need the primer-puff, just that they seemed to have some reliability and length-of-service issues.

I find them to be very "airy" and I have to use primer puffs on both of mine.
Although to be fair, if I hadn't tried the Bloog and was only comparing it to their regular auto then I would have to say it's better

 

[redempti0N]

yeah I grabbed a 65mm with no led and it does seem to be "airy" I wonder if the led board prevents this.

 

[twoskinsoneman]

The newest bloog is the maxfusion cartomizer. There may be a couple other compatible cartos on the market that are newer than the maxfusion, but I don't think the newer ones offer any advantage over the bmf, and yes I would say so if I thought they did. Example, clear fillerless cartos have potential and there are some new ones on the market, but general consensus is they kinda suck, break and leak right now. Newer? Maybe. But depends on why you're asking you know? Why are you really asking? BTW if it's to see if there is anything newer and better out there, ask away so far as I'm concerned. Even if some think it impolite, at least I'd know exactly how to help ya.

Awesome information! Thank you.
As far as why I was asking about the newest carto... I was confused about the model numbers. Was Kr808d a carto? A Batt? or Some combination?
I learned on ECF that the "best" thing out there was Bloog's newsest carto... I read that it was constructed differently than the older (non-maxx) fusion cartos. Just trying to understand.

About me and my bloog.
I am 30 and only been smoking a handful of years. Started cigars when I was drinking. Turned into a 15 marlb light a day habbit. My last cig was 3-10-11.
I've got 3 maxxfusion batts, two chargers, and have bought 15 cartos from bloog. I have also been experimenting with making my own ejuice and refilling the cartos. I bought a DIY kit from DIYONESTOPSHOP and some 100mg/ml nic juice from Bluemist.
I also got some flavorings from both of those places. I have been using the E juice Me calculator to make e-juice. I'm pretty happy with everything I've made to be honest... Never been picky about flavors...
I am done with the stinkys for sure