Yeah, that pretty much sums it up, but most major vendors have settled on KR808D-1 hardware. The D-2 stuff is a lot of mall-kiosk stuff and the similar websites charging $100 for a battery and three cartos, with new cartos costing $25 per 3, or a subscription plan for pre-filled cartos. That's mostly where you see D-2 stuff. Bloog MF and V4L are KR808D-1 devices, although Bloog actually doesn't seem to support use of their BMF cartos with other than BMF batteries, because BMF batteries are regulated at 3.6V and the cartos are designed for that voltage.
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Yeah, that pretty much sums it up, but most major vendors have settled on KR808D-1 hardware. The D-2 stuff is a lot of mall-kiosk stuff and the similar websites charging $100 for a battery and three cartos, with new cartos costing $25 per 3, or a subscription plan for pre-filled cartos. That's mostly where you see D-2 stuff. Bloog MF and V4L are KR808D-1 devices, although Bloog actually doesn't seem to support use of their BMF cartos with other than BMF batteries, because BMF batteries are regulated at 3.6V and the cartos are designed for that voltage.
Twoskins, I've been very, very patient with you. But you have no right to criticise other posters because they choose not to answer your questions. You are entitled to ask whatever you wish, but that does not entitle you to an answer. Others may choose to answer or not, or to respond to you however THEY wish. Free speech works both ways.
Exactly WHEN did anyone tell you you couldn't post criticisms? Quote it, please, because I never saw it. I saw people telling you it is rude to post in a vendor's subforum to ask about other vendors. Which it is, but I am more tolerant than most other subforum moderators. It is very disingenuous of you to frame that as saying you can only post favorable posts.
And frankly, I am now getting offended. I made a concious choice when I started moderating here that I would NOT stifle free speech or debate, or criticism. And I have NOT. MaxxFusion is a good enough product that I don't need to.
But, as I've said before, free speech works both ways. You are free to criticise, and others are free to respond to your criticism. How fair would it be for me to allow you to criticise, but not allow others to disagree with your criticism?
Onehemp, You are not helping. Seriously, this is a free speech zone, but if your only interest is in stirring up trouble, please just .....
Guys, I am on the verge of closing this thread. Any more acrimonious posts FROM EITHER SIDE and it's toast.
The right to Free speech does not entitle you to a venue for that speech. You can say what you want politically, but you can't say it on my front lawn without my permission to be there. In this case, the debate has gotten too heated, and I don't want it on my lawn. So either cool off, or I'm locking the gate.
The right to Free speech does not entitle you to a venue for that speech. You can say what you want politically, but you can't say it on my front lawn without my permission to be there. In this case, the debate has gotten too heated, and I don't want it on my lawn. So either cool off, or I'm locking the gate.
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my patience is shorter than yours Leaford. dont mean to go against you but this wont get pretty anytime soon.
at first I was thinking about deleting the thread but as you said people are entitled to their opinions but the ugly debate will more than likely continue so I took a pre-emptive strike
at first I was thinking about deleting the thread but as you said people are entitled to their opinions but the ugly debate will more than likely continue so I took a pre-emptive strike
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The reason I wanted to leave this thread open was to give the two posters I had responded directly to, TwoSkins and OneHemp, the opportunity to respond to my comments. It only seems fair to me to let them respond publicly to what I said to/about them publicly.
But, Reddy is a moderator here now, and part of the point of making him a full moderator was not just to let him update the stock update thread
; it's also because I'm not always right, and another forum member's POV just might be right. 
So I followed his judgement and allowed him to close it, and let it drop.
But, as I had anticipated, OneHemp DID feel a need to respond to my suggestion that he .... if he was only interested in stirring up trouble. Here was his response, via PM:
Before anyone points out that reposting PMs without permission is against the forum rules, I did ask:
And he gave his permission:
I'm not sure how allowing him to post his criticism of me publically is "harrassing" or "bashing" him, but I will take "go for it bro" as permission.
And OneHemp, if you have anything further to say, the floor is yours. For a limited time, anyway.
Again, I believe in free speech. 100%. The answer to speech you disagree with is always more speech, never to stifle speech. Among many other reasons, because it allows people to hang themselves with their own words.
But, Reddy is a moderator here now, and part of the point of making him a full moderator was not just to let him update the stock update thread
; it's also because I'm not always right, and another forum member's POV just might be right. So I followed his judgement and allowed him to close it, and let it drop.
But, as I had anticipated, OneHemp DID feel a need to respond to my suggestion that he .... if he was only interested in stirring up trouble. Here was his response, via PM:
Onehempcat said:
Before anyone points out that reposting PMs without permission is against the forum rules, I did ask:
leaford said:
And he gave his permission:
Onehempcat said:
I'm not sure how allowing him to post his criticism of me publically is "harrassing" or "bashing" him, but I will take "go for it bro" as permission.
And OneHemp, if you have anything further to say, the floor is yours. For a limited time, anyway.
Again, I believe in free speech. 100%. The answer to speech you disagree with is always more speech, never to stifle speech. Among many other reasons, because it allows people to hang themselves with their own words.
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lol He we go again. YEY, I was having fun!!!!!!! It only takes a few idiots to amuse me
Ok, then. I'll take that as your final word, so you've had your fair opportunity to respond. All is good then.
TwoSkins, I'll leave the thread open to give you an opportunity to have your final word, if you wish.
TwoSkins, I'll leave the thread open to give you an opportunity to have your final word, if you wish.
Leaford, I am surprised to see an official representative of a company get into a pissing match with people on a FORUM! It's kind of amusing though...I mean a Bloog rep telling a Bloog customer to ....? Ha...
In any case sorry you where offended. I really don't know why I kept coming back here after seeing for myself the kiNd of attitudes sHown toward the non believers
I any case keep working to make Bloog into a professional compAny. Until then I will be pLacing my orders at the othER company....
In any case sorry you where offended. I really don't know why I kept coming back here after seeing for myself the kiNd of attitudes sHown toward the non believers
I any case keep working to make Bloog into a professional compAny. Until then I will be pLacing my orders at the othER company....
Leaford, I am surprised to see an official representative of a company get into a pissing match with people on a FORUM! It's kind of amusing though...I mean a Bloog rep telling a Bloog customer to ....? Ha...
In any case sorry you where offended. I really don't know why I kept coming back here after seeing for myself the kiNd of attitudes sHown toward the non believers
I any case keep working to make Bloog into a professional compAny. Until then I will be pLacing my orders at the othER company....
credit where credit is due. whether or not i agree with you, props on your creativity!
Leaford, I am surprised to see an official representative of a company get into a pissing match with people on a FORUM! It's kind of amusing though...I mean a Bloog rep telling a Bloog customer to ....? Ha...
In any case sorry you where offended. I really don't know why I kept coming back here after seeing for myself the kiNd of attitudes sHown toward the non believers
I any case keep working to make Bloog into a professional compAny. Until then I will be pLacing my orders at the othER company....
Twoskins, was that really what I said? I just told him to ....?
No, that wasn't what I said.
I said:
Note the IF in "if your only interest is in stirring up trouble..."
WHich was in response to:
If that's not a pretty clear indication to you that that was OneHemp's intention, maybe his later statement will clarify it for you:
lol He we go again. YEY, I was having fun!!!!!!! It only takes a few idiots to amuse me
He made it pretty clear he just wanted to start trouble for his own amusement. There is a name for that; TROLLING. And it's against the forum rules:
7. These are not permitted:
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Trolling (includes but is not restricted to:
Flooding the board with comments coming from a single point of view in multiple posts.
Deliberately posting something which is against our forum rules.
Posting something deliberately inflammatory - either to start a "flame war" or simply to cause difficulties for the Moderators.
So, I was prefectly within my rights to ask him to leave IF that was his intention. Which he made clear that it was. Could I have been more polite? Perhaps. But rank discourtesy often provokes the same.
And, as I said before, I don't see how posting his own words, allowing him to respond to what I said, amounts to a "pissing match." I had my say, it only seems fair to let him have his.
You, OTOH, I have no problem with, I just took a bit of exception to your suggesting we hadn't allowed you to freely criticise Bloog, when quite clearly you were allowed to. A little ire, easily forgotten, because it wasn't a big offense. You're more than welcome to continue posting, and I wish you continued success in vaping whether it's with us or not.
Does anybody mind if I take this a little personally? Twoskin, I welcomed you to the forum and answered every single one of your OP questions within hours of you starting this thread. Even when others thought my answers to be a little rude to the vendor whose forum we are in. So if you must go forward thinking bloog and all the members here are mean ....heads, please exclude me from it. Go tell all your friends, man those bloog believers suck. Except for analog, he's cool.
but honestly, I don't see why you have such a negative impression of us here. In fact, I don't see how you can state that it's been overwhelmingly bad. In fact you know that you were welcomed and helped here too, let's see what you had to say:
Are you sure your experience here was really all that bad? I think if you re-read the thread with fresh eyes you might see all the help you were given, and you may even see how your misunderstandings lead you to think folks were meaning something other than what they typed.
In the end though, another one off the stinky sticks! Keep it up, and brew up some great DIY flavor!
but honestly, I don't see why you have such a negative impression of us here. In fact, I don't see how you can state that it's been overwhelmingly bad. In fact you know that you were welcomed and helped here too, let's see what you had to say:
Are you sure your experience here was really all that bad? I think if you re-read the thread with fresh eyes you might see all the help you were given, and you may even see how your misunderstandings lead you to think folks were meaning something other than what they typed.
In the end though, another one off the stinky sticks! Keep it up, and brew up some great DIY flavor!
You 2 seem to play nice, on generals, so have to assume you have misunderstood everything people are saying here. The only bashing i see is onehemp doing it to Leaford.
Twoskin: its certainly not a pissing match to give you an oppotunaty to get your two cents in...again...
sorry ill but out... Couldnt help myself..
Twoskin: its certainly not a pissing match to give you an oppotunaty to get your two cents in...again...
sorry ill but out... Couldnt help myself..
HA! Analog man you do crack me up and there are no hard feelings!
A lot of what you said is right on. There were VERY helpful people one this forum and I always tried to say thank you. (Even got some PMs of information people were a little afraid to put out on this forum). There were also some .....s on here but no biggie you get it on every forum. What got me was the strangeness I attempted to identify with being involved with a forum that was so......single...manufacturer...protective(??). I mean alot of people have made different analogies (like something about going to a county fair booth and talking about someone ELSE'S prize pig) but I've been a part of a few forums and never experienced one like it. That's the honest truth.
I any case thanks again to everyone who tried to help a noob out.
And for those about to vape, we salute you!
A lot of what you said is right on. There were VERY helpful people one this forum and I always tried to say thank you. (Even got some PMs of information people were a little afraid to put out on this forum). There were also some .....s on here but no biggie you get it on every forum. What got me was the strangeness I attempted to identify with being involved with a forum that was so......single...manufacturer...protective(??). I mean alot of people have made different analogies (like something about going to a county fair booth and talking about someone ELSE'S prize pig) but I've been a part of a few forums and never experienced one like it. That's the honest truth.
I any case thanks again to everyone who tried to help a noob out.
And for those about to vape, we salute you!
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