RDA Modified Magma clone.

[styks]

Thought you all might like to see my modified Magma clone.

I got a bit fed up with it leaking so firstly installed two o'rings.
It still leaked but not as much and I'd seen one guy cut a channel around the air outlets to stop liquid getting down them.
So I decided to take a different approach. I thought why not increase outlet height instead. I drilled out the holes as much as I dared, 2.4mm in this case. Being a clone the holes were smaller than the genuine item. Fitted some thin walled Stainless 316 tube. It worked well.
Later I found I preffered just a single coil but turning to single coil mode meant there was such a build up of vapour within due to the reduced hole size I could hardly draw on it so I vaped for a while with a single coil and both intakes open.
I then thought why not make use of that free intake and duct it to the coil, giving two blast of air directly on to the coil.

This is the resulting mod.




I'm just going to polish off the black to finish.

It's a great vape now, really flavour full, and it doesn't leak unless I go drippin mad! ..........

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

Great job!

i noticed when i used to use the magma that it seamed like the wick sitting on the corner of the ledge where the air intake is was the problem, is that what you found?

 

[styks]

Great job!

i noticed when i used to use the magma that it seamed like the wick sitting on the corner of the ledge where the air intake is was the problem, is that what you found?

Hi SLIPPY_EEL.

Cheers!

Yes I see that would be likely to cause the problem, or add to it, especially if the drip well was full and the wick fully saturated. I never thought about that tbh.
I believe folks were saying that it was juice running back down the top cap dome also? I don't know about that.
Grinding a channel or doing as I've done should cure most of it.
Mind you, grinding a channel would mean you would have to run with less juice capacity for it to work well I think?
It just seemed logical to me that if the air outlet was higher than that ledge it would be better.

The rest I've done was just me experimenting / playing around. "If it ain't broke don't fix it" is the best philosophy IMO, but being an old retired engineer if things ain't quite right I do love to fiddle!

 

[Dave 1504]

Oh my that is just brilliant thank you for the idea. Original 0P

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

Hi SLIPPY_EEL.

Cheers!

Yes I see that would be likely to cause the problem, or add to it, especially if the drip well was full and the wick fully saturated. I never thought about that tbh.
I believe folks were saying that it was juice running back down the top cap dome also? I don't know about that.
Grinding a channel or doing as I've done should cure most of it.
Mind you, grinding a channel would mean you would have to run with less juice capacity for it to work well I think?
It just seemed logical to me that if the air outlet was higher than that ledge it would be better.

The rest I've done was just me experimenting / playing around. "If it ain't broke don't fix it" is the best philosophy IMO, but being an old retired engineer if things ain't quite right I do love to fiddle!

yeah we all like a fiddle now and then

thinking about this leak issue with the runoff from condensation and wick touching the corner of the shelf it seems the way forward would be a snorkle type airflow but then i suppose it would take away some of the solidness the magma has, unless the airflow pipe had something similar to a volcano shape to it and this would still go with the magma theme

 

[styks]

Oh my that is just brilliant thank you for the idea. Original 0P

Hi Dave 1504 and thank you!

Happy to share my friend.

 

[styks]

yeah we all like a fiddle now and then

thinking about this leak issue with the runoff from condensation and wick touching the corner of the shelf it seems the way forward would be a snorkle type airflow but then i suppose it would take away some of the solidness the magma has, unless the airflow pipe had something similar to a volcano shape to it and this would still go with the magma theme

Hey, you've just given me a design idea. I'd call it the volcano, with your permission of course! ... Damn it, I could do with getting my hands on a lathe,

 

[Gummy Bare]

Intresting idea. How did you install the SS tubing? Just kinda punch it in there, or did you "glue" it in place somehow? Can't tell if the stuff I see around the edge were the tube meets the deck is juice or something else.

 

[styks]

Intresting idea. How did you install the SS tubing? Just kinda punch it in there, or did you "glue" it in place somehow? Can't tell if the stuff I see around the edge were the tube meets the deck is juice or something else.

Hi Gummy Bare,
What you see around the tubes is juice, I made sure only the minimum was used and no bead was present around the top for obvious reasons . I fitted them with a dab of Professional Epoxy resin. I did some research, spoke to the company and decided I would use that over the other glues I had, those being Araldite or J B Weld.

............ * I should've advised in my post that anyone doing this kind of work ensure any glue used be "FOOD GRADE". *

The tube was very soft being thin walled 316. A decent interference fit would've been rather awkward given the tools I have to hand.

Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

 

[Gummy Bare]

To bad they don't make little tiny soldering gun sized welders. We'd probably see a lot more crazy home modifications on vape gear if they did. Although it's kinda hard to see up close with those dang welding glasses on.

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[snow blind]

Please send these pics to one of the china clone manufacturers... i MUST have one! lol I only rock my magma in single coil and always thought about something similar to focus the second "unused" air inlet. Brilliant idea!

But seriously... shoot these over to Tobeco, Hcigar and Acerig pronto!!! lol

 

[jaxgator]

Nice job!

A guy from Estonia posted this idea last year in August. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/rda/594806-magma-rda-lifting-air-channels.html

 

[styks]

To bad they don't make little tiny soldering gun sized welders. We'd probably see a lot more crazy home modifications on vape gear if they did. Although it's kinda hard to see up close with those dang welding glasses on.

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Now that would be nice. I bet there are mini welders around somewhere, danged expensive no doubt.
I have difficulty seeing close nowadays anyhow, with welding goggles I'm likely to weld the ring on my finger to the job! .... As you can see I've caught the posts with my dremmel, I've since bought a head worn magnifier, it's made such a difference!

 

[anendeloflorien]

Do you know what the diameter of that tubing was? I'd really like to try the ducting idea on mine, I run in dedicated single coil (with no AFC ring to open it up a bit more) but I want just a little more oomph to it!

 

[styks]

Nice job!

A guy from Estonia posted this idea last year in August. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/rda/594806-magma-rda-lifting-air-channels.html

I knew I wouldn't be the only one to go this route, it just seemed logical. Thanks for the link.
I wonder if the Fastech clone had 3mm air holes as per the authentic? ......... For guys that like loads of vapour reducing 3mm by 16 thou (Whatever that works out to ,my tube had 8 thou wall thickness) wouldn't be to bad I guess.
My clone I could only drill out to 2.4mm leaving very thin walls. The Tube OD was 2.39 so that worked out well. Wall thickness was 8 thou, what dia that left me I've not bothered converting, it is what it is, best I could do.
All I know when I tried it with dual coil .5 build it got so choked with vapour, even fully open, I couldn't draw on it after a second or so. A cooler build may have gotten away with.
As it is though, I'm running one coil at .75ohms with both the smallest holes on the AFC (Not measured them but they look about .7mm) and the flavour is stunning, very intense and the draw is just right for me. It has become my favourite dripper.

It's all polished up now, I'll post a pic later, ...... she so shiny. lol

 

[styks]

Please send these pics to one of the china clone manufacturers... i MUST have one! lol I only rock my magma in single coil and always thought about something similar to focus the second "unused" air inlet. Brilliant idea!

But seriously... shoot these over to Tobeco, Hcigar and Acerig pronto!!! lol

You reckon they would take the ideas of an old garden shed engineer and do a run!! What about royalties .... Think I'd get any?

 

[JohnnyDill]

I tried milling the deck on my Magma clone, effectively doing the same thing as the air tubes, but much more time consuming. It reduced the leaking, but did not totally eliminate it. My solution to this issue was to lathe off .080" of height from the top of the air control ring. This allows the top cap to thread down further, into the O-ring, which eliminates the weeping with these FastTech clones. I did the same thing on another Magma with a stock deck. Same result- NO leaks for months. Problem SOLVED.

You can see the modded AFC ring in this pic of my latest OKR bottom feeder. -Hope this info helps.

 

[styks]

Here's that pic I promised, it's front and center.



I've been vaping from November 8th last year, my birthday. As you can see I've got a little obsessed!
Made the drip tip on the RocketR .... It's stainless with copper tube shrunk on and an ebony wooden tip dipped in an epoxy coating, because I found the wood alone absorbed the moisture from my lips, no too comfy after a while.

I smoked for 45 years, not one since November ........... Love vaping!

So much so I advised my young nephew to open a shop here in Dolgellau North Wales. He's just done that, opened on 2nd of March. Just a shop no website yet! ..... "The Vape Shop"
I hope he does ok.

Oh, I see it's shrunk that pic quite a bit, anyway of getting them larger? .......... From a hosting site like Flickr may be?

 

[styks]

Hey JohnnyDill,
Sound work my friend! ......... I'm new to this game, bottom feeder? ... I think I read that somewhere before but now I see what it means, totally wicked man. Sounding like an old hippy ain't I?
That's some good sh.t, here I go again. ..... I was thinking about building my own mod at some point, I'll have to research this bottom feeding business. ...... I was going to build it in some nice exotic wood, Desert Ironwood or some nice stabilised burl, something like that.

Stop it please folks, I'll be back in the shed again and it's bloody cold!

 

[edyle]

yeah we all like a fiddle now and then

thinking about this leak issue with the runoff from condensation and wick touching the corner of the shelf it seems the way forward would be a snorkle type airflow but then i suppose it would take away some of the solidness the magma has, unless the airflow pipe had something similar to a volcano shape to it and this would still go with the magma theme

I got an Aris recently:

It's got a snorkel type airflow; and only when I got it did I realize that it has a real deep juice well