Mods vs Tank expense question.

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In another thread this came up and I thought it would be a worth while topic in its own right; especially for new vapers like myself, just starting out. The topic:

Is it better to spend more money on your first mod and go cheap with a tank?

I see it all the time, where a 50 to 200 dollar mod is recommended; but its the cheap tanks, clones etc that seem to dominate a lot of threads, My opinion is a balance in both; but I am very new to vaping and could easily be wrong. Maybe its just good tanks are in general cheaper than good mods?
 

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I am more than satisfied with my TFV4 and my subtank mini. They both were in the 30 dollar range. I am happy with my Sigelei 150. It was in the 65 dollar range. Even if I got a DNA200 setup that was in the 150+ price range, I still think I would be just as happy with either of the tanks. The same applies to my mutation RDA. It was about 30 bucks. It works fine. My magma clone was 10 bucks. Aside from the posts not being perfectly centered, it works perfectly fine. I can't see spending 100+ on the same thing as I got for 10 bucks.

The only reason I would recommend a higher quality mod is because that is the part that is going to be controlling your power delivery. If it is a mech mod clone that is a terrible machining job and causes a battery to vent in your face, that is sort of a big deal. Same thing applies with a regulated mod that doesn't regulate.
 

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I am using Aspire Nautilus, Kanger Subtanks and Tobeco Super Tanks. All work great and all can be found on sale in the $20 range. Not sure why I would need a $50-100 tank. I guess a cool looking stainless tank would be neat, but I am happy with what I have and see no benefit of spending more on a tank.

I am new to vaping but have tried almost everything in the short time I have been vaping. If I started over again, I would buy a $50-ish 50w mod like a Kanger Subox and higher powered but not overly large 150-200w mod like a Sigelei 150TC ($60-80) and be done with it. I wouldn't change the tanks I have listed above though.
 

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There is definitely no need to spend anywhere close to $200.00 on your first mod , second mod , third mod etc....

Very reliable and solid mods can be had for well under $100.00 and any tank in the $15.00 to $30.00 range is going to be a very good tank .

The only thing i would avoid today is going with basic clearomizer's as they get the job done but are typically for vaping from 7 watts to 12 watts max.

Much better tanks that give much better flavor can be found just about everywhere these days. I picked up two new EH Pro Kayfun lite V2 tanks for under $20.00 and they are fantastic for flavor and they don't eat juice like sub ohm tanks do.

Only if your chasing the latest tanks will you pay $30.00+ for a single tank , i use the stuff that everyone loved about a year ago but was too expensive at the time , not anymore.
 

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In another thread this came up and I thought it would be a worth while topic in its own right; especially for new vapers like myself, just starting out. The topic:

Is it better to spend more money on your first mod and go cheap with a tank?

I see it all the time, where a 50 to 200 dollar mod is recommended; but its the cheap tanks, clones etc that seem to dominate a lot of threads, My opinion is a balance in both; but I am very new to vaping and could easily be wrong. Maybe its just good tanks are in general cheaper than good mods?

Difficult to answer;
For starters are we talking about somebody starting with absolutely nothing (which sounds like the case here) or are we talking about somebody who is at the ego battery stage looking to upgrade to a 'mod'.

For somebody with absolutely nothing, an ego setup is a good place to start.
On the other hand if they have friends/family or otherwise are already used to mods and just want to get their own, it's different.

Once somebody is already at the ego stage, if they want to get their first mod, there is no need to also undertake the additional cost of a tank to go with it.


On the broader question, the tank/topper is the business end of vaping.
 

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Would you spend the same amount of money on the tires/rims for a car as you would for the car itself?


BTW, most mods are over priced...especially ones made in the US of A
My analogy on cars versus tires and shocks was simplistic at best. I do think it is closer to what you spend on your engine versus what you would be spend on your suspension though.

Being very new to this I find it interesting how some own so many many different tanks and mods. And then also how the money is budgeted for them. I think its a great topic as I am constantly reading view points on all these different gadets :)
 

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The juice delivery attachment is what actually makes the vapor (and determines the quality of that vapor). The mod merely supplies the power to the coil in the juice attachment.

Having said that, many of the better juice attachments require a decent quality mod. Some attachments have power requirements that an under-powered mod might not be capable of producing. Then again, you probably won't need 100 watts of power when 20 watts will suffice.

I do believe a regulated mod is a better choice for a beginner than a mechanical mod, purely for safety reasons and the ability to "change" the vape experience on the fly.


The Pro's & Cons of Regulated vs Mechanical Mods:
Regulated Pro's:





Regulated Cons:



Mechanical Pro's:




Mechanical Cons:


No voltage regulation of the battery. As the battery drains from use, the vape quality will diminish.​

Some mechanical mods allow the use of a drop-in processor module often known as a "Kick". A Kick converts a mechanical mod into a regulated mod allowing for power regulation and some protection features.​
 
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All my mods are $20-$50.
All my tanks are $10-£25.

I don't shop at Vaporfi, Apollo or V2. Nor would I buy from Volcano (sorry boys, but you don't fool me).

Life is simple.

(Shame about the $119 eVic that lasted 5 months...)

The big money purchases scare me; but so does buying a lot of small ones. Three items at a low price can be just as much a waste of 100 dollars as one item at 100 if they turn out to be not what one is looking for.
 

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The big money purchases scare me; but so does buying a lot of small ones. Three items at a low price can be just as much a waste of 100 dollars as one item at 100 if they turn out to be not what one is looking for.

Yes, very wise.
Trouble is, unless you are really, really committed to a mod, you'll get bored of it very soon or it'll break.
Either go 'dirt' cheap or comparatively over-expensive with a reliable warranty/return service.

If you buy something that covers most of the bases, it's hard to go wrong.

Us 2, 3 and 4 year vapers all got bitten by the mods which became obsolete with the new power tanks.
 

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I recommend the Kanger Sub Tank Mini for a beginner. It can be used with the factory .5, 1.2 or 1.5 ohm regular coils or temperature control coils and it comes with a rebuildable base too. You can do it at 10-12 watts with mouth to lung or lung hits and even go up as high as 60 watts with some coils.
For the Mod I recommend a Coolfire 4 or an Evic for an internal battery mod or the Kbox Mini or the evic tvc mini for replaceable batteries.
Good decent starter setups that can stay with you for a while.
 

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the money comes from not smoking... :)
depending on how much one smoked per day has a direct relation to how much is spent on mods and tanks :)
once you find your happy spot with the hardware, then you can save money.... or spend it on beer ;)
I have done the math; and spent on average 10.50 a day! I want to start adding 100 of that a month to my savings plan :)
 

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I recommend the Kanger Sub Tank Mini for a beginner. It can be used with the factory .5, 1.2 or 1.5 ohm regular coils or temperature control coils and it comes with a rebuildable base too. You can do it at 10-12 watts with mouth to lung or lung hits and even go up as high as 60 watts with some coils.
For the Mod I recommend a Coolfire 4 or an Evic for an internal battery mod or the Kbox Mini or the evic tvc mini for replaceable batteries.
Good decent starter setups that can stay with you for a while.
I have heard nothing but good things on the Kanger; especially for those of us that want to get into building coils.
 
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It really isn't necessary to spend hundreds of dollars on equipment. I once bought a Nemesis clone from Fasttech for 9 dollars. I still have it, and it vapes like a dream. I now have a number of moderate-to-high-dollar authentic mechanicals, acquired over the years. I bought most of them here on the classies, used, and waited until I got a good deal. The authentics are generally better. The use better materials and the quality of work is superior. This makes them easier to use, and safer to push them closer to the ragged edge of possible. The thing is, an extra 10 seconds spent replacing the battery because the threads are not as polished as on a mod costing hundreds of dollars more is not really a big deal, and I don't push the gear to the ragged edge of possible anyway. And once you get the mod assembled with the battery inside and the topper screwed on and filled with juice, they don't vape a lot better. Again, unless you are using the gear to it's maximum limits, the additional .00001 volts of voltage drop you'll find between 302 and 316 stainless is pretty meaningless in practical terms. A lot of what you're paying for is the name, and the cachet. Feel free to do so, if you like. I do, but mostly because I love them as works of mechanical art. But you don't have to. As to regulateds, again, you don't have to buy top of the line, unless you just want to. Sigelei makes their Mini Book, a 40 watt, TC, Single 18650 mod, and I just bought one as a Christmas gift for $34.00. You can buy the Sigelei 150 watt mod with TC for 90 bucks and without TC for 65. And Sigelei is a well known and respected company with a reputation for quality build and long life equipment. The parts that go into a Hexohm v2.1 cost less than 20 bucks, but Vapecrawler only shows one priced under $180.00. I paid well over a Franklin for my Snow Wolf 200W TC machine. Does it do anything the Sigelei 150 won't do? Considering a) I wouldn't even dream of vaping anywhere near 150 Watts, never mind above; and b), they're made in the same factory, no, it really doesn't. I bought the SW because the Siggie 150 wasn't yet released and I didn't want to wait, but I wouldn't make the same choice today now they have been. Is there a quality difference? Yeppers, that there is. An iStick is not an Innokin is not a Sigelei. But you know what? Given identical toppers, they all vape.

Much the same can be said for toppers: You can pay top dollar if you want to, but good gear is available much cheaper. I rebuild, so I don't know much about replaceable coil tanks, but I use A Fogger V6 for dual coils and a Lemo2 for solos, and both can be had authentic under 30 bucks. I just bought an Indulgence Mutation MT tank-- it's not here yet-- because of the gigantic air flow and the huge juice channels. If it vapes like people tell me, it will probably become my favorite dualie tank. I bought it under 30 bucks too. I don't really need a Squape for over a hundred. I have an authentic Council of Vapor Aris Pro dripper, and a Wotofo Sapor; I'm hard pressed to tell you which I like better for flavor. They were 26 and 19 dollars respectively. And, while I get great pleasure from using them, and do so by preference, they don't vape a lot better than the two Plume Veil clones I have, both less than 10 bucks. Would I like to have an authentic Plume Veil? Definitely. Paying $125 for one is less attractive. I've vaped an authentic Kennedy Competition dripper, and it is a cloud machine for real. I'd love one, but they're a hundred bucks used. And I get about as much cloud from my authentic ($15) Fishbone v1, and from my ($10) clone Dark Horse.

So you make the call. If it's worth the money to you, by all means. But if not, you don't really need it.
 
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