more power = heart palpitations

[Karyn Wiedman Bradley]

Hi all. I recently started using the E-power e-cig. I use the same strength juice I've always used, but I've noticed I've been experiencing some very scary heart palpitations lately. Could it be from the Epower?

I decided to go back to my stick batteries for a bit, just in case. I also ordered some lower nicotine juice just to be safe. I love my epower because it lasts all day and the batts can just be switched out...but the hear palps are scary!!!

Just wondered if anyone had any thoughts on this.

Thanks,

Karyn

 

[r77r7r]

Maybe not so much the battery as the nic. level? Many go down to 12mg when vaping all day. Heart palps can also happen w/ hi BP- have it checked lately?

 

[RevolvingMores]

Hopefully some more experienced vapers will chime in, but it sounds to me like a nic overdose. Maybe the higher power PV is vaporizing the nicotine in your juice more efficiently than your stick batteries. Definitely try some lower nic juice, maybe even much lower than what you are currently using. Sometimes it's hard to accurately estimate the amount of nicotine our bodies need. Hope everything turns out well!

 

[Renolizzie]

I'm not a doctor but I am sexy looking enough to play one on TV [lol].

Have you always had heart palpitations? Do you have anxiety or panic attacks previously? I have had panic attacks and they can feel a bit scary.

I'm wondering if you are taking bigger hits off your new set up and getting more nicotine. Vaping a bit less and/or switching to lower nic is worth a try but if you really don't feel well, I have to say you might want talk to your doctor, especially if this is a totally new symptom for you and cutting back on the nicotine doesn't help.

Are you feeling better using your stick batteries while you wait for your lower nic e juice? Just wondering how you are doing.

 

[Karyn Wiedman Bradley]

Hi, thanks for responding. BP is good. Checked that right away (I'm a nurse). Everything else seems good too. I think Revolving is right, the epower is just "better" at doing it's thing. I do know that the "hit" from the epower is way better than my stick batteries, that's for sure. So it makes sense that I'd be getting more nicotine with each one. I just wondered if anyone else had experienced this type of thing.

I did order some 12mg juice. Hopefully that makes a difference. We'll see. I also know I need to up my water intake.

Thanks again.

 

[perpetua]

I'd suggest a nic overdose, as your new E power is probably delivering a nicotine
hit more efficiently, then it's easy to go overboard simply because it's so enjoyable.

Make sure you're keeping your fluid levels up and consult your Doctor if the symptoms
persist.



* Cross posts *

 

[Karyn Wiedman Bradley]

I'm not a doctor but I am sexy looking enough to play one on TV [lol].

Have you always had heart palpitations? Do you have anxiety or panic attacks previously? I have had panic attacks and they can feel a bit scary.

I'm wondering if you are taking bigger hits off your new set up and getting more nicotine. Vaping a bit less and/or switching to lower nic is worth a try but if you really don't feel well, I have to say you might want talk to your doctor, especially if this is a totally new symptom for you and cutting back on the nicotine doesn't help.

Are you feeling better using your stick batteries while you wait for your lower nic e juice? Just wondering how you are doing.

Thanks for your concern, yes I actually do feel better just using the stick batteries. I've been using them the past few days and the heart palps are pretty much gone.

I've not ever suffered from anxiety, but that is definitely a possibility. However, I do think the lower nic will help and just trying to not vape quite so much...it seems I vape way more than I ever smoked, lol.

Thanks again.

 

[r77r7r]

And too much coffee.

 

[Nurzrachit]

Hi, thanks for responding. BP is good. Checked that right away (I'm a nurse). Everything else seems good too. I think Revolving is right, the epower is just "better" at doing it's thing. I do know that the "hit" from the epower is way better than my stick batteries, that's for sure. So it makes sense that I'd be getting more nicotine with each one. I just wondered if anyone else had experienced this type of thing.

Karyn, I don't know what type of nurse you are, but as with any other stimulant nicotine can cause extreme Tacchycardia. Were there any other stimulants involved, coffee, Mountain dew, chocolates? I would pay attention to your stimulant intake, and definately lower your Nicotine level. I'm sure others have had bouts of tacchycardia with vaping high nic levels too, the vapor is more rapidly metabolized in your lungs than the tar from cigarettes. It is direct lung to blood injection. Good luck.

 

[Perpetualsharon]

Oh no! I'm probably over stimulated too. I drink coffee like water and vape like breathing.

I currently use 24 mg because I am not mentally prepared for a lower dose just two weeks into my quit. I have noticed that sometimes at work, on 3rd boring shift, I vape A LOT more often out of boredom and don't feel well. It is more nausea than anything else. Now I am really careful about how much I vape.

 

[rolygate]

Models of e-cigarettes come in three sizes and three levels of efficiency, because with batteries, size is everything.

A mid-size device like an eGo will deliver double the vapor of a mini and from simple logic you can see that this probably means double the nicotine. An APV can often deliver double the performance of a mini, and many of them deliver double the performance of a mid-size unit.

If you suffer from tachycardia or arhythmia or nausea then lower your nic strength to 6mg. If you don't get cravings for a cigarette at 6mg then it's doing the job and you have no need to use a liquid any stronger than this.

If you do suffer from cravings occasionally but not constantly, just use a stronger liquid briefly while the cravings last.

Because 18mg or 24mg is seen as an average strength, many people use it who could probably use a strength lower than this - perhaps much lower. On the other hand some people need 45mg, especially in a mini, due to the reduced performance. So some will need 6mg and some 45mg, and there is no kind of rule about why or how this situation exists. The only thing that is fairly obvious is that you should try to use the lowest strength that works for you. Experiment if necessary: dilute your e-liquid with Glycerine, USP from a pharmacy.

If you have 5ml of 24mg strength e-liquid and 5ml of glycerine, and mix them together, you then have 10ml of 12mg strength liquid.

 

[Algerhugz]

Models of e-cigarettes come in three sizes and three levels of efficiency, because with batteries, size is everything.

A mid-size device like an eGo will deliver double the vapor of a mini and from simple logic you can see that this probably means double the nicotine. An APV can often deliver double the performance of a mini, and many of them deliver double the performance of a mid-size unit.

If you suffer from tachycardia or arhythmia or nausea then lower your nic strength to 6mg. If you don't get cravings for a cigarette at 6mg then it's doing the job and you have no need to use a liquid any stronger than this.

If you do suffer from cravings occasionally but not constantly, just use a stronger liquid briefly while the cravings last.

Because 18mg or 24mg is seen as an average strength, many people use it who could probably use a strength lower than this - perhaps much lower. On the other hand some people need 45mg, especially in a mini, due to the reduced performance. So some will need 6mg and some 45mg, and there is no kind of rule about why or how this situation exists. The only thing that is fairly obvious is that you should try to use the lowest strength that works for you. Experiment if necessary: dilute your e-liquid with Glycerine, USP from a pharmacy.

If you have 5ml of 24mg strength e-liquid and 5ml of glycerine, and mix them together, you then have 10ml of 12mg strength liquid.

very informative post. I bought a firefly 650 a while ago and never really got into using it when I bought it I was shown the drip technique and no one explained the cartos to me then. Before I bought that I was vaping the Mistics from wallyworld and then I learned how to fill and reuse those carts. Then after visiting a friend last week I discovered there is a whole new world online which brought me to this forum. Since then I have started using my Firefly with a tank and discovered the same issues occasionally with the sick feelings after vaping a while. Never thought about cutting my premixed juices with glycerine for use in the tank on my firefly. Thanks for this info

 

[Stormlark]

I get heart palpitations occasionally. I looked it up once but now I can't remember the exact name. It said it was fairly common and both caffeine and nicotine can trigger them (something technical about the muscle cells and polarity and how stimulants can mess with it so that the wrong chamber of the heart beats first causing a backwards heartbeat that feels weird). Then again, I'm not a doctor and I'd hate to say "oh I get those too and they're nothing to worry about" only to be wrong in your case. So you know, if you're concerned you may want to make a doctor's appointment.


Ah, here we go, Premature ventricular contraction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Karyn Wiedman Bradley]

Hi, thanks for responding. BP is good. Checked that right away (I'm a nurse). Everything else seems good too. I think Revolving is right, the epower is just "better" at doing it's thing. I do know that the "hit" from the epower is way better than my stick batteries, that's for sure. So it makes sense that I'd be getting more nicotine with each one. I just wondered if anyone else had experienced this type of thing.

Karyn, I don't know what type of nurse you are, but as with any other stimulant nicotine can cause extreme Tacchycardia. Were there any other stimulants involved, coffee, Mountain dew, chocolates? I would pay attention to your stimulant intake, and definately lower your Nicotine level. I'm sure others have had bouts of tacchycardia with vaping high nic levels too, the vapor is more rapidly metabolized in your lungs than the tar from cigarettes. It is direct lung to blood injection. Good luck.

I'm just an average, run-of-the-mill nurse (lol) and I do understand about the stimulant effect of nicotine. However, nothing else had changed, as far as nic levels or caffeine intake. The only difference was the switch in batteries...which is why I asked. I've been vaping for about 3 months now, so I felt that I was fairly used to it's effects. And I'm not tachy at all...holding steady at my usual 70-75. It just struck me as odd that a battery could make that much difference. As another poster suggested, maybe I was enjoying the vape of the new e-cig so much I was vaping more than usual without being aware of it! Thanks for your help!

 

[Karyn Wiedman Bradley]

Models of e-cigarettes come in three sizes and three levels of efficiency, because with batteries, size is everything.

A mid-size device like an eGo will deliver double the vapor of a mini and from simple logic you can see that this probably means double the nicotine. An APV can often deliver double the performance of a mini, and many of them deliver double the performance of a mid-size unit.

If you suffer from tachycardia or arhythmia or nausea then lower your nic strength to 6mg. If you don't get cravings for a cigarette at 6mg then it's doing the job and you have no need to use a liquid any stronger than this.

If you do suffer from cravings occasionally but not constantly, just use a stronger liquid briefly while the cravings last.

Because 18mg or 24mg is seen as an average strength, many people use it who could probably use a strength lower than this - perhaps much lower. On the other hand some people need 45mg, especially in a mini, due to the reduced performance. So some will need 6mg and some 45mg, and there is no kind of rule about why or how this situation exists. The only thing that is fairly obvious is that you should try to use the lowest strength that works for you. Experiment if necessary: dilute your e-liquid with Glycerine, USP from a pharmacy.

If you have 5ml of 24mg strength e-liquid and 5ml of glycerine, and mix them together, you then have 10ml of 12mg strength liquid.

Thanks so much for this informative post! I did order some 12mg...I currently use 18. If I feel good there, I will hang out there for a while and possibly move down to a 6mg later.

And thanks for the glycerine tip...will that kill the flavor a lot? If not, that'd keep me from wasting the liquids I already have. Again...thanks so much!

 

[meli.]

Wow, I so glad to have found this thread. I was wondering why I was experiencing such big a difference between my ego's and twist's and put it down to the efficiency of the clearomizers. Currently using E1's, CE4's and Vivi's- only on twist.
One of the vivi heads has a cotton wick, juice = 8mg, it blew me sideways when I first vaped it. I thought it was just the cotton wick, I tried it with a silica wick, no significant change in palpitations, I also get really sleepy tired when the nic levels are too high.
I now use 5mg juice just for the vivi+twist. I really couldn't understand why it was happening. And yet with the Ego-c, on which I only use E1's & CE4's and 8mg juice the effect is not as sever at all.
Thank you Rolygate for taking the time to explain it all to us.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I have friends that upgraded to a variable volt and experienced the same symptoms. They were fine on a lower Nic mg. Once you find the right mg level order equal amounts of the same flavors at a lower nic level and mix the two.
Example: If you have 30 ml X 24 mg Cappuccino and you find you're ok with 12 mg nicotine then order 30 ml X 0 nic Cappuccino- mix the two and you'll have 12 mg nicotine with no flavor loss.

 

[martinc]

I started to have those palps back when I was still burning,but it all went away with vaping.

»Odd.

 

[TNTOM]

now im kinda scared ...i am new to the e cig thing.trying my best to quit smoking..had a heart attach in july now have a defib...was on the 24 you guys think i should go to lowest nic level?

 

[Racehorse]

now im kinda scared ...i am new to the e cig thing.trying my best to quit smoking..had a heart attach in july now have a defib...was on the 24 you guys think i should go to lowest nic level?

Nobody but you can *really* know this........you waant to be on the least amount but that still allows you to be comfortable from jonesing from nicotine withdrawal..........so why not experiment with 18 or 12 and *see* if that satisfies your craving?

You may not *need* 24 mg.