Most Used Secondary Flavors/Additives??

[Kemosabe]

although ive dabbled in DIY almost my entire vaping career, i never really put the effort in to be a master. ive only got a handful of mixes that are decent. so, needless to say im no pro with additives. all i do is add malic acid to my fruits and vinegar to bakery or tobacco juices. usually EM gets added to both, but not always. maybe i should always add it to everything, like some people do.

 

[eric1973]

Vanillas, TFA caramels, and a combo of EM and sucralose are common for me. EM alone can mute out some flavors and bury subtleties, and regular sweetener can sharpen the effect with less. Koolada and lemon juice I also use with regularity.

 

[dannyv45]

Are you using the Delche Leachee, with your tabbacco's or fruits, by itself? I love Delche Leachee cake, it's Yummy

Mostly I use it in my RY4 tobacco mixes. But will be venturing out into other areas with it when my fruit flavors come in.

A nice RY4 is

7% Double RY4 (Or substitue your favorite tobacco)
1 - 2 % Deluce de leache
1% Caramel
1% sweetner
1% AP

 

[Chan SauWei]

mean those bakery flavoring also able to use for DIY ejuice?

 

[DeeDee1234]

mean those bakery flavoring also able to use for DIY ejuice?

I have seen your question a few places and I think thier is a langange barrier
Thier are many bakery vapes, as long as you use a FLAVORING that is ok to inhale. Bakery Vapes are fine. The concern is using a FLAVORING that is safe to vape.

 

[DrewGrimey]

What exactly is "smooth" used for? Smooth Flavor PG Concentrate (TFA)

Is it similar to vape wizard and what type of juices should I use it with?

For example, do people use EM, smooth, and vinegar all in one juice or what? Or does Vape wizard, Smooth and Vinegar all do roughly the same thing by "blending" flavors together?

 

[FACE MEAT]

From what I've read here, Smooth is TFA's reverse-engineered version of Vape Wizard. Or it may be the other way around.

 

[psycheval]

Smooth reversed VW I believe. Might need to find that. I saw it too. Where's Hoosier when you need him he might know right off top of his head. Or Kurt.

 

[rockyroad]

I have these in my cart...all from TFA. I'm going for the effects and body part of diy. Before I order, can you suggest anything else?

Acetyl Pyrazine

Maltol (Crystals)

Ethyl vanillin-1 oz

Acetylpyridine

Raspberry Ketone

Smooth

 

[michaelsil1]

I have these in my cart...all from TFA. I'm going for the effects and body part of diy. Before I order, can you suggest anything else?

Acetyl Pyrazine

Maltol (Crystals)

Ethyl vanillin-1 oz

Acetylpyridine

Raspberry Ketone

Smooth

.......

Koolada

 

[dannyv45]

Smooth reversed VW I believe. Might need to find that. I saw it too. Where's Hoosier when you need him he might know right off top of his head. Or Kurt.

Smooth and wizard are basically the same thing. They are used to smooth and blend tobacco flavors so one flavor is not prodominite over the other. For single tobacco flavors it don't help much unless it's really strong or harsh. The magic happens when you are combining several tobacco flavors.

 

[psycheval]

Smooth and wizard are basically the same thing. They are used to smooth and blend tobacco flavors so one flavor is not prodominite over the other. For single tobacco flavors it don't help much unless it's really strong or harsh. The magic happens when you are combining several tobacco flavors.

I know they are the same basically. I have both but use VW the most. I put it in just about everything. I can tell which one I've got in what. Look at Smooth ingredients on TFA's site. You could blend that yourself if you bought the additives and figured it out. I'm just curious about who figured it out first. How synthesized is VW? I haven't seen a component list on it though. It may be as synthetic as Smooth.

 

[dannyv45]

I know they are the same basically. I have both but use VW the most. I put it in just about everything. I can tell which one I've got in what. Look at Smooth ingredients on TFA's site. You could blend that yourself if you bought the additives and figured it out. I'm just curious about who figured it out first. How synthesized is VW? I haven't seen a component list on it though. It may be as synthetic as Smooth.

Don't know but thats a good question. I've only used VW.

 

[rockyroad]

Acetyl Pyrazine
can use up to 10.0000 ppm in the flavor. (refers to the undiluted material) Says on the TFA site, I'm guessing when you buy this it is already diluted in pg (that is how it appears to me) So for every 10 ml. or whatever I should use how many drops? What happens if I go over? Any health concerns?

"edit"....does it ever go bad as in like sour or something

 

[rockyroad]

I would think the top 3 are the EM, ACV and lemon juice... Other than that there is Acetyl Pyrazine, "smooth", tart and sour and vape wizard which I think is similar to "smooth"

I don't mean to be a pain but what is ACV again?

 

[michaelsil1]

I don't mean to be a pain but what is ACV again?

Apple Cider Vinegar

 

[dannyv45]

Acetyl Pyrazine
can use up to 10.0000 ppm in the flavor. (refers to the undiluted material) Says on the TFA site, I'm guessing when you buy this it is already diluted in pg (that is how it appears to me) So for every 10 ml. or whatever I should use how many drops? What happens if I go over? Any health concerns?

"edit"....does it ever go bad as in like sour or something

The link I provided is to there pre duleted AP. Use at 2 drops per 10ml and add more if not nutty enough. If using it with a 555 2 drops per 10ml should be pleanty. If using it with another tobacco you may need a little more (use in 1% increments). 555 usually already has some AP in it.

All flavoring can go bad they usually have a shelf life of 1 - 2 years depending on the flavors. Organics are shorter usually 6 months or under.

There are no health concerns that I'm aware of with AP but use sparingly as it is potent.

 

[rockyroad]

thanks for the help guys