me again. seems like one question leads to another. can someone PLEASE EXPLAIN what mouth inhaling is and how to do it. is it different than lung inhaling.
mouth inhaling versus lung inhaling NEED HELP PLEASE
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Mouth inhaling is taking in the vapor into your mouth THEN inhaling into your lungs - frequently this is exactly how most smoke as well.
BTW, if you have any trouble inhaling at first, your mouth will absorb the nicotine just fine while you figure out your best technique (and not have that nic fit)
Direct is just that - there's no "stop-over" in your mouth - directly into the lungs.
BTW, if you have any trouble inhaling at first, your mouth will absorb the nicotine just fine while you figure out your best technique (and not have that nic fit)
Direct is just that - there's no "stop-over" in your mouth - directly into the lungs.
Draw into the mouth like you would a milkshake through a straw, then draw it into your lungs from your mouth. This cuts into the throat hit, softening it. I smoked that way so I vape that way. Some people draw direct into their lungs like it was a respirator. Throat hit is much harder that way.
Some times I draw into my mouth, then slowly push the vaper out of my mouth and inhale it with my nose. It makes the flavor of the vape more intense.
Some times I draw into my mouth, then slowly push the vaper out of my mouth and inhale it with my nose. It makes the flavor of the vape more intense.
Oh! Almost forgot- don't "drag" on your ecig like a cigarette either - to much of a vacuum going on and could be quite harsh - instead let a small amount of air into your mouth while you are vaping - much smoother - it doesn't take too much getting used to.
Aka "French inhale" being able to control the vapor or smoke for that matter makes vaping that much more fun lol...
The way I see it... Vape how you vape, and slowly get yourself to learn the mouth inhale... And then try to get yourself to do it more often... And it will become routine in no time.... Good luck
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I hadn't even considered the mouth inhale aspect of it till this. I've always direct inhaled, but as minor as it seems, after trying it, it cuts down just a bit on how frequent I hit it...interesting.
I believe (but i could be wrong) the the reason for this is because more nicotine is absorbed through the mouth than through the lungs... not sure where i read this. but like i said I might be wrong
(and ten points to me for sort of zombposting...)
I found it made a bit of a difference myself, and I would never have thought so. Also saw the recommendation that exhaling be thru the nose - I suppose there is yet more chance for absorption - however I have a hard time getting used to that
Vaping has the consequence of the fact that nicotine molecules are larger therefore better absorbed through the mouth and nasal cavity. By holding in your mouth inhailing and exhailing through the nose you get maximum nicotine absorption.
Of course you don't have to do that every hit. I vape only 1.2 and I will hold a hit every once in a whole on my mouth and after a normal smokin session I'm pretty buzzed
The thing about vaping is that it's different from smoking. It works better if you embrace that instead of trying to avoid it or deny it. An ecig is best used in a different way from a cigarette as it works much better that way. The only real similarity between ecigs and tobacco cigarettes is they both go in your mouth. If you consider that ecigs can have any shape or functionality and produce a low-temperature water-based vapor, and are not rolled tubes of burning plant material producing smoke, it may be easier to comprehend that there could be some differences in use.
Inhalation technique when using en e-cigarette
It's worth describing this otherwise people may think an ecig is used in the same way as a cigarette - it isn't.
With the ecig mouthpiece placed in the mouth, seal the lips, and, creating a vacuum in the mouth by sucking (with the mouth only and not the lungs), draw vapor slowly and gently into the mouth. Draw a short time for efficient models such as APVs; a medium time for mid-size models; and a long time for minis. The draw-in period can therefore vary from 3 seconds to 8 seconds according to the efficiency of the device, the nicotine strength, and the required effect. Note this is not an 'inhalation' time since only the mouth is used; it's more like a 'suck time'. The vapor is still in the mouth at this time. Draw very gently on the ecig because a hard, sharp draw doesn't work, and may pull liquid into the mouth.
Keep the vapor in the mouth for a second or two, then inhale it if wished. You don't have to inhale vapor, nicotine is absorbed in the mouth and nose as well as the lungs.
If you inhale, then exhale slowly through the nose (if desired), as nicotine is absorbed in the nasal cavity.
You can see that a two-stage inhale is used, in contrast to the normal single-stage cigarette inhale.
If maximum nicotine benefit is required, do as above. If not, shorter draw-ins can be used; direct exhale through the mouth not the nose; or don't even bother inhaling, just keep the vapor in the mouth/nose area.
There are numerous variations on the above procedures. The main thing to remember is that an ecig is not used like a cigarette, so the inhalation method should be completely different if you require full benefit from the device. If you don't, it doesn't matter. The key difference is that while a tobacco cigarette may often be used by inhaling directly into the lungs with a single-stage inhale, an e-cigarette is very rarely used in this way, a two-stage inhale is used.
There are a number of reasons for this, including the need for a slow and gentle inhale to make the heater coil work properly; the need to heat the coil for a time before it starts to work efficiently (and the lower the voltage the more this is needed); the possibility of a hard draw pulling liquid into the mouth; the liquid base of the vapor meaning that absorption is just as efficient in the mouth and nose as the lungs; the size of the vapor molecules being ten times that of those in cigarette smoke (10 microns vs 1 micron) meaning that lung absorption is relatively poor compared to tobacco smoke; and so on.
To get maximum benefit / nicotine delivery from a tobacco cigarette, you just buy a box and light one up. No skill required - and above all no advice is needed.
To get any benefit at all especially any nicotine, and to avoid other issues, en e-cigarette needs advice and technique. It can't be used in the same way as a cigarette. It's amusing to see the results of clinical studies where the participants were told to, "Use the ecig exactly like a tobacco cigarette". Such methods are proven not to work.
There is some blame attached to some vendors here since they might even advise customers to do this. The reason could be their own ignorance, or a desire not to put buyers off by telling them the procedure is different - in other words a marketing ploy. It's very different indeed, and telling a new buyer to 'use it like a cigarette' has issues.
It is also worrying to see such things being done as it means people might be trying to inhale with the lungs or make similar mistakes. Indeed, some clinical studies reported that there might be some sort of issue as a result of "the difficulty of inhalation and its effect on the lungs". It's hard to decide whether this incompetence is hilarious or worrying. It's as if clinical researchers seem to think there is some kind of similarity in use between ecigs and tobacco cigarettes, and that they can test the devices without advice from experts.
This is the 21st century, not the 18th. Perhaps someone who thinks it is possible for someone to automatically use an iPad correctly after only having ever seen or used an abacus shouldn't be in clinical research.
Inhalation technique when using en e-cigarette
It's worth describing this otherwise people may think an ecig is used in the same way as a cigarette - it isn't.
With the ecig mouthpiece placed in the mouth, seal the lips, and, creating a vacuum in the mouth by sucking (with the mouth only and not the lungs), draw vapor slowly and gently into the mouth. Draw a short time for efficient models such as APVs; a medium time for mid-size models; and a long time for minis. The draw-in period can therefore vary from 3 seconds to 8 seconds according to the efficiency of the device, the nicotine strength, and the required effect. Note this is not an 'inhalation' time since only the mouth is used; it's more like a 'suck time'. The vapor is still in the mouth at this time. Draw very gently on the ecig because a hard, sharp draw doesn't work, and may pull liquid into the mouth.
Keep the vapor in the mouth for a second or two, then inhale it if wished. You don't have to inhale vapor, nicotine is absorbed in the mouth and nose as well as the lungs.
If you inhale, then exhale slowly through the nose (if desired), as nicotine is absorbed in the nasal cavity.
You can see that a two-stage inhale is used, in contrast to the normal single-stage cigarette inhale.
If maximum nicotine benefit is required, do as above. If not, shorter draw-ins can be used; direct exhale through the mouth not the nose; or don't even bother inhaling, just keep the vapor in the mouth/nose area.
There are numerous variations on the above procedures. The main thing to remember is that an ecig is not used like a cigarette, so the inhalation method should be completely different if you require full benefit from the device. If you don't, it doesn't matter. The key difference is that while a tobacco cigarette may often be used by inhaling directly into the lungs with a single-stage inhale, an e-cigarette is very rarely used in this way, a two-stage inhale is used.
There are a number of reasons for this, including the need for a slow and gentle inhale to make the heater coil work properly; the need to heat the coil for a time before it starts to work efficiently (and the lower the voltage the more this is needed); the possibility of a hard draw pulling liquid into the mouth; the liquid base of the vapor meaning that absorption is just as efficient in the mouth and nose as the lungs; the size of the vapor molecules being ten times that of those in cigarette smoke (10 microns vs 1 micron) meaning that lung absorption is relatively poor compared to tobacco smoke; and so on.
To get maximum benefit / nicotine delivery from a tobacco cigarette, you just buy a box and light one up. No skill required - and above all no advice is needed.
To get any benefit at all especially any nicotine, and to avoid other issues, en e-cigarette needs advice and technique. It can't be used in the same way as a cigarette. It's amusing to see the results of clinical studies where the participants were told to, "Use the ecig exactly like a tobacco cigarette". Such methods are proven not to work.
There is some blame attached to some vendors here since they might even advise customers to do this. The reason could be their own ignorance, or a desire not to put buyers off by telling them the procedure is different - in other words a marketing ploy. It's very different indeed, and telling a new buyer to 'use it like a cigarette' has issues.
It is also worrying to see such things being done as it means people might be trying to inhale with the lungs or make similar mistakes. Indeed, some clinical studies reported that there might be some sort of issue as a result of "the difficulty of inhalation and its effect on the lungs". It's hard to decide whether this incompetence is hilarious or worrying. It's as if clinical researchers seem to think there is some kind of similarity in use between ecigs and tobacco cigarettes, and that they can test the devices without advice from experts.
This is the 21st century, not the 18th. Perhaps someone who thinks it is possible for someone to automatically use an iPad correctly after only having ever seen or used an abacus shouldn't be in clinical research.
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rolygate have a question: if i just draw the vapor in my mouth, hold it there and do not inhale which is better for maximum nicotine exhaling thru mouth or nose? again i am not onhaling into lungs just drawing into mouth and holding it there. please answer asap tyvm mugsie
Maximum nicotine absorption is derived from using all three: mouth, lungs and nose. Use any/all of those as required.
It's a bit difficult to use the nose without the lungs, some people can manage it and others can't - like blowing smoke rings. There are two ways: mouth pressure by reducing the size of the oral cavity while keeping the lips sealed, forcing the vapor down and back out the nose, and very short inhales that take the vapor a little way down, then push it out through the nose; or the French inhale method, where vapor is streamed out of the mouth past the lips by cheek pressure and inhaled into the nose, as shallow or deep as required.
Not using the lungs is like most cigar smoking, so there is a similarity.
It's a bit difficult to use the nose without the lungs, some people can manage it and others can't - like blowing smoke rings. There are two ways: mouth pressure by reducing the size of the oral cavity while keeping the lips sealed, forcing the vapor down and back out the nose, and very short inhales that take the vapor a little way down, then push it out through the nose; or the French inhale method, where vapor is streamed out of the mouth past the lips by cheek pressure and inhaled into the nose, as shallow or deep as required.
Not using the lungs is like most cigar smoking, so there is a similarity.
rolygate i don't want to inhale into lungs at all. i draw the vapor into my mouth and tried just exhaling from my mouth. will i still get nicotine or do i have to exhale from nose. sorry so many questions but i need to figure this out. as i said i don't want to inhale into lungs.,and drawing vapor into mouth and hold ing it no problem. i guess my question is , exhale from mouth or nose? again thank you mugsie
Let's make it simpler: if it works for you and you get no cigarette cravings, then whatever you are doing is fine. Only the personal experience is valid, there are no rules.
If you still get cravings, then you need to:
- Inhale differently somehow - hold it for longer, use the nose more, whatever.
- Get more efficient equipment that delivers more vapor.
- Increase the nicotine strength. Some might go to 45mg (4.5%) nic strength provided that they are experiencing cravings and are not inhaling, and if this does not produce symptoms of over-use. (Some people do vape up to 60mg but this is generally advisable only for experts who show no signs of nic OD at this strength and as a last alternative to going back to smoking, and who can't get WTAs or Snus for some reason.)
- Get WTAs in some form: Snus or WTA-added e-liquid.
If you still get cravings, then you need to:
- Inhale differently somehow - hold it for longer, use the nose more, whatever.
- Get more efficient equipment that delivers more vapor.
- Increase the nicotine strength. Some might go to 45mg (4.5%) nic strength provided that they are experiencing cravings and are not inhaling, and if this does not produce symptoms of over-use. (Some people do vape up to 60mg but this is generally advisable only for experts who show no signs of nic OD at this strength and as a last alternative to going back to smoking, and who can't get WTAs or Snus for some reason.)
- Get WTAs in some form: Snus or WTA-added e-liquid.
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