Ms T's Bakery juices, anyone else experiencing a much longer delay then was posted??

[MayLovesMetal]

Their site's back up....

You know what has me really shaking my head? This part, listed in their F.A.Q. section; I never noticed it before...

"What if I notice a mistake I made on my order after I place it?

If you place an order and realize that you made a mistake or want to make a change, please contact us immediately. DO NOT place another order and expect the first one to be refunded and cancelled. Due to credit card processing costs, a refund on the mistaken order will not be reapplied to your card unless you agree to pay the $25 cancellation fee assessed by our credit card processor! Instead, you will receive store credit on your account for future use. As noted above, once your order has entered "Awaiting Shipping" status, NO CHANGES CAN BE MADE."

I also noticed they don't have updates regarding shipping orders on the main page anymore...

Yeah that was always there. Ms Ts policies were never ever customer friendly. Basically it was af it was a privilege to buy from her - she was doing you a huge favor. Even while I was a regular customer I always looked for a replacement. Living in PA I had the honor of paying 8% sales tax on top of the highest prices I ever paid for juice. She had outrageous shipping charges that actually went up as your orders dollar amount increased for shipping that was slow on a good day, and a million rules and limits no other vendor had. Her juice was so much better than anyone elses back in the days.. it was kinda the only game in town and she really ran the business like she was The Queen. I guess she hasn't got the news but things have changed in the juice world since 2013. There are so many quality juices out there now that can compete with and even win against hers - even if hers was what it used to be, which in my experience it's not.

 

[bully mom]

Funny, I have not been able to access her home page all day and still this evening I continue to get a message that the store is unavailable due to maintenance. I can access some of the links on her website but not the home page. Maybe I have been banned. LOL Something is going on. Thanks to all that have been posting updates.

 

[mila25]

Funny, I have not been able to access her home page all day and still this evening I continue to get a message that the store is unavailable due to maintenance. I can access some of the links on her website but not the home page. Maybe I have been banned. LOL Something is going on. Thanks to all that have been posting updates.

i am a network engineer, i do this kind of stuff for a living and i am finishing off my advanced diploma in a few weeks [ in exams right now]

its probably a DNS issue depending on what DNS sever you have assigned in your router or your isp uses by default will depend on when you'll see the site in its normal state again.

in simple words because of them messing with the site you'll have to wait for the DNS to update, its why some people can see it and others can't. for me when you posted you could see it as up. i could not and only as of today can i see it again

its quite a common issue and the tell tale sign is some people seeing it as up and others not

Mila

 

[Racehorse]

Don't you think it's time that you folks (and there are many of you) that have been cheated by 'Ms T' take legal against her?

This has been going on so long, and I wince every time I see yet another consumer get ripped off. But writing "negative reviews" on a vaping forum (which obviously, even many people on the forum don't read or see) doesn't get the word out to those who can actually DO something about it.

Chargebacks are only known by the credit card processor (and I'm suprised that, if the number of people who say they are doing chargebacks actually is true, then I can't fiigure out HOW she has even managed to keep a processor, because they usually will boot you pretty quickly for excessive chargebacks.)

So I suspect consumers have just not been following up. In any way. Certainly not in any meaningful way.

Have to contact States Attorney General in state where she is doing biz. Have to contact USPS in city where she lives. Have to contact any and all consumer protection agencies n the state where she lives. Have to initiate charge backs with your credit card company and/or with your bank if usiing a debit card or bank account, etc.

Until some higher authority other than a vaping forum knows about how prolific and long lasting this carnage has been taking place, nothing will happen.

And that, in the meantime, leads to more people, in the pipe, who are placing orders, getting ripped off.

 

[MayLovesMetal]

This has been going on so long, and I wince every time I see yet another consumer get ripped off. But writing "negative reviews" on a vaping forum (which obviously, even many people on the forum don't read or see) doesn't get the word out to those who can actually DO something about it.

Chargebacks are only known by the credit card processor (and I'm suprised that, if the number of people who say they are doing chargebacks actually is true, then I can't fiigure out HOW she has even managed to keep a processor, because they usually will boot you pretty quickly for excessive chargebacks.)

So I suspect consumers have just not been following up. In any way. Certainly not in any meaningful way.

Have to contact States Attorney General in state where she is doing biz. Have to contact USPS in city where she lives. Have to contact any and all consumer protection agencies n the state where she lives. Have to initiate charge backs with your credit card company and/or with your bank if usiing a debit card or bank account, etc.

Until some higher authority other than a vaping forum knows about how prolific and long lasting this carnage has been taking place, nothing will happen.

And that, in the meantime, leads to more people, in the pipe, who are placing orders, getting ripped off.

I agree with the bulk of your post - but as it's been proved here, the posts in an active thread definitely do help keep some victims from ..well..being victims. I wouldn't have expected that to be the case a year ago but I saw it with my own eyes. It's the reason that some people including myself, who otherwise are done with Ms Ts Bakery, continue to post in this thread.

 

[Racehorse]

I agree with the bulk of your post - but as it's been proved here, the posts in an active thread definitely do help keep some victims from ..well..being victims. I wouldn't have expected that to be the case a year ago but I saw it with my own eyes. It's the reason that some people including myself, who otherwise are done with Ms Ts Bakery, continue to post in this thread.

Yes, I agree about raising awareness. My point was more that "talking among ourselves" has no teeth from a law enforcement/legal angle.

And anyone not on a vaping forum is still fresh meat for outfits like Mrs. T's..........

 

[Midniteoyl]

Ok, these people have balls to think we are all so stupid that we wouldn't put 2 and 2 together to figure out that this "what whut" store is the same group of scam artists beyond "ms. t's". Either that or they find it humorous that we can't seem to do anything about her fake ejuice bakery. I believe the latter. Hence the rude and condescending email address. It seems to me that they are EXPECTING that inbox to be infiltrated by nasty hate emails from everyone they've ripped off. The crap they have for sale in their store is all junk they bought at close-out, next to nothing, prices and are reselling it for higher than market value. Just another way to rip people off.

The trashy looking sticky note on the ecig "fridge" says they can make any flavor of ejuice. The website calls the what whut a "retailer" of ms Ts.... The prices on those no name ego battery's are pretty ridiculous too...

Ughhh!!!!! I can't get over how messed up this is and how conniving, deceitful, and disgusting these people are. It's time to seriously make a move, especially now that there is a physical location that ms. "Tammy Loveless" can be found at.

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Yep.. pretty clear where at least part of your money going...

 

[bully mom]

Well, I'm still waiting for that shipment that her website states happened 10/7. I have received nothing. I guess this ends it for me. Time to go to the bank and see about getting my money back, then begin searching for how many ways she can be turned in and stopped.

The Ms T's website is nothing more than a scam site that takes people's money. Nothing is being shipped, regardless of what that page states.

I have turned her into the FTC using their consumer complaint form found here:

Internet Fraud Information | USA.gov

I am now writing to abuse@godaddy.com since they host her site. I am also turning a complaint in to the PA Attorney General:

https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/Qui...rney_General_s_Bureau_of_Consumer_Protection/

Then at
Fraud.org - File || a Complaint
https://tips.fbi.gov/
Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) | Home
FBI — Map of Field Offices (going to contact the PA one closest to where she moved)
United States Postal Inspection Service

I've contacted the first two contacts you have provided us and I will keep on until I get to all of them. He face book page appears to have shut down also.

Thanks again for all this great info

 

[ibeatpeople]

I checked out her site and it said they where 10-15 days behind and had a 50% off sale, so I thought I would give them anther shot:

Order #XXXXX

Order Date: 7th Aug 2014

This order is marked as Awaiting Shipment
Your Order Contains:

1 x Frozen Ice Cream
(Bottle Size: 30ml (+$15.75))
****************************************************
It still has not shipped as of 11/19/2014

It seems like that outfit is just gathering order's and will just pull down the site.
I know that this will be my last order from them ever again.

 

[Flt Simulation]

I Beat People ?

 

[ibeatpeople]

I Beat People ?

The name I use when playing COD on the xbox......

 

[Racehorse]

It seems like that outfit is just gathering order's

Well as long as they have people giving them orders to gather..........



sorry youv'e been waiting 3 months though.

 

[Nermal]

I checked out her site and it said they where 10-15 days behind and had a 50% off sale, so I thought I would give them anther shot:

It's almost as though the entire thread has been a wasted effort/warning.

 

[MayLovesMetal]

It's almost as though the entire thread has been a wasted effort/warning.

Super frustrating.

 

[mila25]

UPDATE-

because my bank is on her .... she changed my order status to awaiting shipment i guess to throw my bank off. but they saw right through it and i already submitted my paperwork to them ages ago but i did let them know she changed the order status but they said its too late and proceedings have commenced and its a hail Mary by her to try save the chargeback

 

[Coldrake]

Good for you and good for the bank. As we all know, awaiting shipment means nothing.

 

[jdrewry]

UPDATE-

because my bank is on her .... she changed my order status to awaiting shipment i guess to throw my bank off. but they saw right through it and i already submitted my paperwork to them ages ago but i did let them know she changed the order status but they said its too late and proceedings have commenced and its a hail Mary by her to try save the chargeback

Any chance your bank can help with filing some type of charge against Ms. T's for fraudulent charges?

 

[bully mom]

Ms T's Bakery Essentials

**********************

IT'S OUR ANNIVERSARY!

NOW UNTIL DEC 1, 2014 WE HAVE A 30% DISCOUNT

COUPON CODE: %Late%

With the large amount of orders that will come with this coupon we ask for a little extra time to process these orders.


Are you Kidding me???????

This is laughable. Another sale to lure in more victims!!!!! I just sent out my third email to her ACTUAL host site which Stomkat listed in her post above. I'm not going to stop until I have contacted every single link that has been posted. There has to be a way to stop this criminal.

Happy Thanks Giving to all of you. I have many things to be thankful for in my life and Ms T's Bakery is not one of them. I should have known from the first order I ever placed with her there was something seriously wrong with this woman. There's a new sheriff in town Ms. Loveless and I'm on the case now.

 

[MayLovesMetal]

Wow..funny name for the discount too. You gotta wonder, is she sitting in her house laughing about all the money she's taking from people? Happy Thanksgiving to you too! =)

Ms T's Bakery Essentials

**********************

IT'S OUR ANNIVERSARY!

NOW UNTIL DEC 1, 2014 WE HAVE A 30% DISCOUNT

COUPON CODE: %Late%

With the large amount of orders that will come with this coupon we ask for a little extra time to process these orders.


Are you Kidding me???????

This is laughable. Another sale to lure in more victims!!!!! I just sent out my third email to her ACTUAL host site which Stomkat listed in her post above. I'm not going to stop until I have contacted every single link that has been posted. There has to be a way to stop this criminal.

Happy Thanks Giving to all of you. I have many things to be thankful for in my life and Ms T's Bakery is not one of them. I should have known from the first order I ever placed with her there was something seriously wrong with this woman.View attachment 391876 There's a new sheriff in town Ms. Loveless and I'm on the case now.

 

[Coldrake]

Ms T's Bakery Essentials

**********************

IT'S OUR ANNIVERSARY!

NOW UNTIL DEC 1, 2014 WE HAVE A 30% DISCOUNT

COUPON CODE: %Late%

With the large amount of orders that will come with this coupon we ask for a little extra time to process these orders.

Instead of 6 months it's now 9 months.

I have many things to be thankful for in my life and Ms T's Bakery is not one of them.

That would make a great sig line, Lol!

Happy thanksgiving everyone!