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See I need a starter kit in Mary Kay style lol. Not for using but for giving others lol. I should start vaping parties

You could have the Asprire premium starter kit and/or the Innokin vv as examples of pen mods and the mvp 2 and VTR as examples of box mods with different wraps and tanks. Not a bad idea.
 

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As a community, there are different regulations we agree should be in place, and certain ones we don't. For instance, I agree with the restriction on selling nicotine products to minors and creating a safety regulation for the hardware so you know you're not buying faulty equipment, but disagree with banning flavors and only allowing vaping in smoking areas. I would love to hear what you'd think would be positive regulations and what wouldn't be.
 

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As a community, there are different regulations we agree should be in place, and certain ones we don't. For instance, I agree with the restriction on selling nicotine products to minors and creating a safety regulation for the hardware so you know you're not buying faulty equipment, but disagree with banning flavors and only allowing vaping in smoking areas. I would love to hear what you'd think would be positive regulations and what wouldn't be.

I think the idea of banning flavors is silly. When I turned 18 my sense of taste did not disappear! If it did then why is there flavored liquor? Some people need to really think before grabbing at straws for reasons to get rid of something they don't like.

After that point being made I guess here is my take...sadly looking at the biggest picture if anyone thinks that there isn't someone who would take advantage of a situation I have some news for you...they will. I have seen cloud chasers inside buildings get verbally aggressive towards others that have asked them to step outside due to vapor production.

I don't have a problem with going outside to vape. I've been doing it for years while smoking anyways so this is neither a concern nor a problem for me. Now if you tell me I can't do it outside then we will have a problem as just as I did when i was smoking. If you don't like that I'm smoking outside in my little area of "sinners" then walk away. If i'm at a park minding my own business and you come to my area and ask me to put it out...the answer is no. I always made sure that I was away from others when I smoked...vaping to me is no different. Its not something to make a stance on and say "I can do this where ever I want" because that is not fair...and guaranteed someone will see a vaper and think they can smoke. Yes I agree at this time I feel that it is safe enough to do around anyone, however let others see that and them make the invitation. If they don't, big whoop...we are still outside in the same situation we would be in if we were still smoking. I'll make sure to give a location my business for inviting me in.
 
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You could have the Asprire premium starter kit and/or the Innokin vv as examples of pen mods and the mvp 2 and VTR as examples of box mods with different wraps and tanks. Not a bad idea.

Currently I loan out my evods...not the greatest by a long shot but hey...its free to them, right? :) I let them try my MVP2 and istick. I try to keep them away from my husband's mech mod because I don't think thats they way to "start out" just my opinion. I just wish I had more starter kits and more juice lol. Maybe at Christmas I'll buy some for my christmas gift to myself so that I can pass them around more :)
 

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Currently I loan out my evods...not the greatest by a long shot but hey...its free to them, right? :) I let them try my MVP2 and istick. I try to keep them away from my husband's mech mod because I don't think thats they way to "start out" just my opinion. I just wish I had more starter kits and more juice lol. Maybe at Christmas I'll buy some for my christmas gift to myself so that I can pass them around more :)

And that is just awesome! Can I be like you when I grow up?
 

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Thanks for the input. Here is the blog Finding the Legislation Sweet Spot would love to hear what you think.

1: Yes there should be an age limit. That age limit should be at least 18. If that is the official age when all rights are granted then that is when you should be allow to vape. However...I have my own concern about how its marketed. I believe that this should be an alternative for smoking. Not something to pick up on its own. Hopefully our kids have gotten that point. I've told my daughter all the time that this is for people to quit smoking...nothing else. If you didn't smoke then there is no point to vape. I do hope that this stays with her forever.

2: As I stated before lol this is just silly. Yet here is a better example. When the ecigs first appeared in my life it was the kiosks in the mall, I was a menthol smoker. I tried the menthol ecig...and all i can say is that it was wrong. So so so very wrong. It was the wrong flavor of mint. Thats the best answer I can give you. This time around I WAS going to quit...end of story...So I walked into a B&M and listened to their pitch. I nodded a lot and told them...I need the juice to be as close to my cigarette flavor as possible. Fortunately the owner walked in and accepted my request as a challenge and messed around to find me my flavor...and my goodness he did. IT WAS PERFECT! And that was all...no more cigarettes right then and there. Now if flavors were banned I'd still be smoking as he wouldn't have had the FLAVORS there to make me my winning juice.

3. Sooooo a lot of nicotine poisonings. Well lets look at these numbers...Some of the top poisonings are caused by painkillers, cosmetics, household cleaning products, sedatives and foreign bodies. Sooooo...hmmmm I watch my kid. I watch my pets too. I watch my husband. So yeah. I care enough about my family to keep these things out of peoples hands. I have hard core cleaning chemicals that I will send everyone outside so I can take on the toilet tank (not bowl) There is a time that you have to put responsibility on those that are using the products. If your juice is laying around and you have a dog...what else can I say. Its no different than leaving chocolate around and having a dog get into it.

4. I have to say this again is a matter of opinion. When I go to a craft market and purchase something handmade I do not believe that it has gone through the QC requirements of a large company. So I do agree. I would like to see that everything is meeting a minimum safety requirement. I would be very put off if I found that some people are just making faulty items to make a buck. Am I naive enough to think it doesn't happen, not for a moment. But this is why I do my research prior to purchasing which is all from larger companies.

5. For the labels. I have no problem with it saying "Hey, fyi...there is nicotine in this juice."

6. I touched base on this before. I have no problem with going outside and vaping in a smoking area. If this is what I have to do to ensure that people aren't vaping at my kid's school in front of other kids...so be it. I don't consider my vaping to be a huge glamorous fantastic thing that EVERYONE should be doing. I think its a huge glamorous fantastic thing that EVERY SMOKER should be doing. Again there is a place for everything but I don't feel that at a school, in a movie theatre or at a concert is an appropriate place.

My first experience was with a cigalike. I wasn't told properly how to use it, I wasn't told that 5 drags could equal a cigarette, I wasn't told what I needed to know. This is where I am jaded by a lot of sales people. There is A LOT to these. My setup (juice included) will not work for everyone to make the big switch. But if you can find the right tools and flavors you CAN do it! Its not a maybe...its not an urban legend...it is fact! You just need to keep searching for the correct setup. If flavors are banned you are just pushing people right back into smoking...ya know...all the different brands out there that all taste different...oh wait thats not possible that they taste different because if they did THEN THAT MEANS THEY HAVE DIFFERENT FLAVORS but somehow still legal to sell...weird....Sorry for my jabbering off but these are my thoughts to your webpage :)
 

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1: Yes there should be an age limit. That age limit should be at least 18. If that is the official age when all rights are granted then that is when you should be allow to vape. However...I have my own concern about how its marketed. I believe that this should be an alternative for smoking. Not something to pick up on its own. Hopefully our kids have gotten that point. I've told my daughter all the time that this is for people to quit smoking...nothing else. If you didn't smoke then there is no point to vape. I do hope that this stays with her forever.

2: As I stated before lol this is just silly. Yet here is a better example. When the ecigs first appeared in my life it was the kiosks in the mall, I was a menthol smoker. I tried the menthol ecig...and all i can say is that it was wrong. So so so very wrong. It was the wrong flavor of mint. Thats the best answer I can give you. This time around I WAS going to quit...end of story...So I walked into a B&M and listened to their pitch. I nodded a lot and told them...I need the juice to be as close to my cigarette flavor as possible. Fortunately the owner walked in and accepted my request as a challenge and messed around to find me my flavor...and my goodness he did. IT WAS PERFECT! And that was all...no more cigarettes right then and there. Now if flavors were banned I'd still be smoking as he wouldn't have had the FLAVORS there to make me my winning juice.

3. Sooooo a lot of nicotine poisonings. Well lets look at these numbers...Some of the top poisonings are caused by painkillers, cosmetics, household cleaning products, sedatives and foreign bodies. Sooooo...hmmmm I watch my kid. I watch my pets too. I watch my husband. So yeah. I care enough about my family to keep these things out of peoples hands. I have hard core cleaning chemicals that I will send everyone outside so I can take on the toilet tank (not bowl) There is a time that you have to put responsibility on those that are using the products. If your juice is laying around and you have a dog...what else can I say. Its no different than leaving chocolate around and having a dog get into it.

4. I have to say this again is a matter of opinion. When I go to a craft market and purchase something handmade I do not believe that it has gone through the QC requirements of a large company. So I do agree. I would like to see that everything is meeting a minimum safety requirement. I would be very put off if I found that some people are just making faulty items to make a buck. Am I naive enough to think it doesn't happen, not for a moment. But this is why I do my research prior to purchasing which is all from larger companies.

5. For the labels. I have no problem with it saying "Hey, fyi...there is nicotine in this juice."

6. I touched base on this before. I have no problem with going outside and vaping in a smoking area. If this is what I have to do to ensure that people aren't vaping at my kid's school in front of other kids...so be it. I don't consider my vaping to be a huge glamorous fantastic thing that EVERYONE should be doing. I think its a huge glamorous fantastic thing that EVERY SMOKER should be doing. Again there is a place for everything but I don't feel that at a school, in a movie theatre or at a concert is an appropriate place.

My first experience was with a cigalike. I wasn't told properly how to use it, I wasn't told that 5 drags could equal a cigarette, I wasn't told what I needed to know. This is where I am jaded by a lot of sales people. There is A LOT to these. My setup (juice included) will not work for everyone to make the big switch. But if you can find the right tools and flavors you CAN do it! Its not a maybe...its not an urban legend...it is fact! You just need to keep searching for the correct setup. If flavors are banned you are just pushing people right back into smoking...ya know...all the different brands out there that all taste different...oh wait thats not possible that they taste different because if they did THEN THAT MEANS THEY HAVE DIFFERENT FLAVORS but somehow still legal to sell...weird....Sorry for my jabbering off but these are my thoughts to your webpage :)

WELL SAID PERIDOX!!!!!!:thumb:
 

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1: Yes there should be an age limit. That age limit should be at least 18. If that is the official age when all rights are granted then that is when you should be allow to vape. However...I have my own concern about how its marketed. I believe that this should be an alternative for smoking. Not something to pick up on its own. Hopefully our kids have gotten that point. I've told my daughter all the time that this is for people to quit smoking...nothing else. If you didn't smoke then there is no point to vape. I do hope that this stays with her forever.

2: As I stated before lol this is just silly. Yet here is a better example. When the ecigs first appeared in my life it was the kiosks in the mall, I was a menthol smoker. I tried the menthol ecig...and all i can say is that it was wrong. So so so very wrong. It was the wrong flavor of mint. Thats the best answer I can give you. This time around I WAS going to quit...end of story...So I walked into a B&M and listened to their pitch. I nodded a lot and told them...I need the juice to be as close to my cigarette flavor as possible. Fortunately the owner walked in and accepted my request as a challenge and messed around to find me my flavor...and my goodness he did. IT WAS PERFECT! And that was all...no more cigarettes right then and there. Now if flavors were banned I'd still be smoking as he wouldn't have had the FLAVORS there to make me my winning juice.

3. Sooooo a lot of nicotine poisonings. Well lets look at these numbers...Some of the top poisonings are caused by painkillers, cosmetics, household cleaning products, sedatives and foreign bodies. Sooooo...hmmmm I watch my kid. I watch my pets too. I watch my husband. So yeah. I care enough about my family to keep these things out of peoples hands. I have hard core cleaning chemicals that I will send everyone outside so I can take on the toilet tank (not bowl) There is a time that you have to put responsibility on those that are using the products. If your juice is laying around and you have a dog...what else can I say. Its no different than leaving chocolate around and having a dog get into it.

4. I have to say this again is a matter of opinion. When I go to a craft market and purchase something handmade I do not believe that it has gone through the QC requirements of a large company. So I do agree. I would like to see that everything is meeting a minimum safety requirement. I would be very put off if I found that some people are just making faulty items to make a buck. Am I naive enough to think it doesn't happen, not for a moment. But this is why I do my research prior to purchasing which is all from larger companies.

5. For the labels. I have no problem with it saying "Hey, fyi...there is nicotine in this juice."

6. I touched base on this before. I have no problem with going outside and vaping in a smoking area. If this is what I have to do to ensure that people aren't vaping at my kid's school in front of other kids...so be it. I don't consider my vaping to be a huge glamorous fantastic thing that EVERYONE should be doing. I think its a huge glamorous fantastic thing that EVERY SMOKER should be doing. Again there is a place for everything but I don't feel that at a school, in a movie theatre or at a concert is an appropriate place.

My first experience was with a cigalike. I wasn't told properly how to use it, I wasn't told that 5 drags could equal a cigarette, I wasn't told what I needed to know. This is where I am jaded by a lot of sales people. There is A LOT to these. My setup (juice included) will not work for everyone to make the big switch. But if you can find the right tools and flavors you CAN do it! Its not a maybe...its not an urban legend...it is fact! You just need to keep searching for the correct setup. If flavors are banned you are just pushing people right back into smoking...ya know...all the different brands out there that all taste different...oh wait thats not possible that they taste different because if they did THEN THAT MEANS THEY HAVE DIFFERENT FLAVORS but somehow still legal to sell...weird....Sorry for my jabbering off but these are my thoughts to your webpage :)

Love your thoughts! The next blog will be on a summary of all the different subjects we've touched on, but also asking the question of why there is so much controversy, especially with those who are anti-smoking regarding e-cigs. Would love to hear your thoughts on that while I'm putting together info for that one as well.
 

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I watched the Bloomington mess last night on vapers.tv
They didn't even ask any speakers questions after Greg Conley spoke.
You could tell they had already made their minds up.
All of the speakers' arguments were concise and convincing.
One guy on the council suggested an amendment allowing 2 years to keep samples in vape shops. Shot down.

Restrictions passed against vaping 7-0

It takes at least 2 people to have a conversation. You can't convince someone that has an agenda.


Top of my newsfeed at FB just now - http://www.mprnews.org/story/2014/11/17/minneapolis-e-cigarette-ban


From AVA's post:

"We are not here representing big tobacco," said [AVA's Gregory] Conley, who testified against restricting e-cigarettes. "The Minneapolis and nearby retailers here representing the vapor product industry do not sell products sold by big tobacco and I am here to urge you not to treat smoke-free, tar-free vapor products the same as you do deadly, combustible cigarettes."
 
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I watched the Bloomington mess last night on vapers.tv
They didn't even ask any speakers questions after Greg Conley spoke.
You could tell they had already made their minds up.
All of the speakers' arguments were concise and convincing.
One guy on the council suggested an amendment allowing 2 years to keep samples in vape shops. Shot down.

Restrictions passed against vaping 7-0

It takes at least 2 people to have a conversation. You can't convince someone that has an agenda.


Top of my newsfeed at FB just now - Minneapolis takes first step against e-cigarettes | Minnesota Public Radio News


From AVA's post:

"We are not here representing big tobacco," said [AVA's Gregory] Conley, who testified against restricting e-cigarettes. "The Minneapolis and nearby retailers here representing the vapor product industry do not sell products sold by big tobacco and I am here to urge you not to treat smoke-free, tar-free vapor products the same as you do deadly, combustible cigarettes."

That just makes me sad. Time is on our side as far as showing the safety, but until then we're in for a bit of a fight I think.
 

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Good Morning Mt. Bakerites! Halfway Day and the week is flying by! I hope everyone's week is running smoothly! Have a great day everyone!:toast:

It's only Wednesday? Today was one of those wake up's where I thought it was Friday. Ah, well, more time to prepare for the upcoming holidays.
 

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For some they light up when talking about their builds, for others it's juice, then other's it's the impact on their lives. What part of vaping do you find you end up speaking most passionately about?

For me, all of those are true but the most important would be the impact that quitting cigarettes and converting to vaping has had on my life, health, and those around me. Best thing I've ever did!:)
 
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