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[UncleChuck]

Has anyone had issues with MBV juice burning funky at higher wattages when you add 2 or more flavor shots?

I recently got my juice order from MBV in, and had ordered 2 flavor shots on everything. Totally unnecessary and probably a bad idea, at least for me. This stuff has tiny tiny amounts of vapor (at 50/50) and harsh throat hit. It carmelizes on all my coils almost instantly and the juice darkens literally after like 4-5 puffs.

I'm not blaming MBV here at all, this was my screw up, just curious if anyone else had similar issues. This happened on all my rebuildables, whether cotton or mesh. Its not the builds, I know that for sure, but can't figure out why this is so terrible. Shame too, some were really tasty! (sour yum, papaya, and coconut were pretty good)

I gave it all away (quite a bit of juice) to my sister, she vapes at very very low power (5w or so) with clearos and APVs so she didn't notice any issues. I've vaped tons of MBV juice through my rebuildables at high power without any issues in the past, but never with flavor shots.

Anyone else have this issue?

 

[GPC2012]

OK so has anyone had the cinnamon red hots juice fromMT Baker? And is it any good.

 

[diggyb]

Has anyone had issues with MBV juice burning funky at higher wattages when you add 2 or more flavor shots?

I recently got my juice order from MBV in, and had ordered 2 flavor shots on everything. Totally unnecessary and probably a bad idea, at least for me. This stuff has tiny tiny amounts of vapor (at 50/50) and harsh throat hit. It carmelizes on all my coils almost instantly and the juice darkens literally after like 4-5 puffs.

I'm not blaming MBV here at all, this was my screw up, just curious if anyone else had similar issues. This happened on all my rebuildables, whether cotton or mesh. Its not the builds, I know that for sure, but can't figure out why this is so terrible. Shame too, some were really tasty! (sour yum, papaya, and coconut were pretty good)

I gave it all away (quite a bit of juice) to my sister, she vapes at very very low power (5w or so) with clearos and APVs so she didn't notice any issues. I've vaped tons of MBV juice through my rebuildables at high power without any issues in the past, but never with flavor shots.

Anyone else have this issue?

I vape a lot of my juices (100%vg 3shots) at 11 watts and don't have this problem.

 

[diggyb]

OK so has anyone had the cinnamon red hots juice fromMT Baker? And is it any good.

I've had a bottle of it for almost 2 months now. I can't vape it because it rips my throat to shreds and sends me into coughing fits on every draw.

I have it with 2 extra shots - but it's so harsh that I can't imagine those 2 shots made all the difference.

 

[hawkeye46]

Cinnamon red hot can be used as a mixer, other wise it is too hot. I mix 5-10% to a lot of fruit flavors to spice them up. Goes rally good with green apple. Be careful that you don't use too much as it can easily overwhelm the fruit flavor. Anyhow, that's what I'm doing with the bottle I have rather than throw it away.--Hawk

 

[macaroni]

I recently got my juice order from MBV in, and had ordered 2 flavor shots on everything. Totally unnecessary and probably a bad idea, at least for me. This stuff has tiny tiny amounts of vapor (at 50/50) and harsh throat hit. It carmelizes on all my coils almost instantly and the juice darkens literally after like 4-5 puffs.

Don't know if I can help .... I don't normally get flavor shots, so I don't know how that may effect the juice, and you don't really say what you mean by "higher wattage" .... but here goes anyway

I normally get 50/50 blend, and have never found any lack of vapor production ... as a matter of fact @ 50/50 (for me at least) the vapor has a texture, or thickness, or something. It's hard to explain but I can "feel" it. When I deviate from 50/50 trying to get more flavor, the vapor "thins out" and doesn't have the same feel.

As far as the "higher wattage" I normally vape @ between 9 and 10 watts depending on the juice (don't know if you consider that higher or not). I have never noticed a short term (4 or 5 puffs) darkening of the juice ... I have noticed the juice darken over time (but we are talking days here not puffs).

As far as throat hit ... the one thing I've noticed about MBV is a wildly inconsistency with throat hit from one flavor to another ... for instance my Graham Cracker has a harsh hit, whereas my vanilla has no throat hit whatsoever.

 

[GPC2012]

I've been using atomic cinnamon from Vapure, mixed about 50/50 with a mellow tobacco flavor been doing about 4 to 5 ml every two days

 

[Banana Vap70]

Received my new order today, they all smell fabulous. I haven't tried any yet as I know that they should steep a bit longer, but I got blue moo, salt water taffy, fruit striped gum, rainbow sherbet and requested vanilla cupcake as my freebie.

I just wanted to take a minute and say that you can't beat the shipping, it's just super fast. I have just had the best experience with MBV and feel like they really pay attention to customer detail. I did request the vanilla cupcake as my freebie, but I didn't specify the mix or the nic mg and later thought, well it's okay I'll get what I get and will be happy about it. When it came today, they had actually taken the time to mix it to my preferred preference and I really thought that was a nice touch.

Have been vaping the bubble gum from my last order today. I had to get a tank of it before my son (adult) vaped it all, I like it, its good, but he loves it, there is less the 1/2 a bottle left.

Will really try to hold off trying my new flavors for at least a few days......if I can, they all smell dead on especially the rainbow sherbet.

 

[UncleChuck]

Don't know if I can help .... I don't normally get flavor shots, so I don't know how that may effect the juice, and you don't really say what you mean by "higher wattage" .... but here goes anyway

I normally get 50/50 blend, and have never found any lack of vapor production ... as a matter of fact @ 50/50 (for me at least) the vapor has a texture, or thickness, or something. It's hard to explain but I can "feel" it. When I deviate from 50/50 trying to get more flavor, the vapor "thins out" and doesn't have the same feel.

As far as the "higher wattage" I normally vape @ between 9 and 10 watts depending on the juice (don't know if you consider that higher or not). I have never noticed a short term (4 or 5 puffs) darkening of the juice ... I have noticed the juice darken over time (but we are talking days here not puffs).

As far as throat hit ... the one thing I've noticed about MBV is a wildly inconsistency with throat hit from one flavor to another ... for instance my Graham Cracker has a harsh hit, whereas my vanilla has no throat hit whatsoever.

Well the builds I use most are in the 25-45 watt range so pretty high, but as I said I've used plenty of MBV juice in the past with builds at those same power levels without issue. The only reason I suspected it could have something to do with power levels is because my sister doesn't seem to have issues with it in her devices, so I'm not sure what's going on.

I too usually get 50/50 for that nice velvety vapor, but that's not at all what I got from this juice. It was very thin wispy vapor and extremely sharp on the throat. While a few flavors I tried were new, others I had tried before and the difference was very noticeable.

Like I said I'm not saying it's anything MBV did wrong, I'm trying to figure out what was going on with this juice for future reference. I was thinking maybe the flavors were alcohol based and that caused the bad vapor and harshness, so I had the bottles sit out for several weeks with the dripper tip taken out, with frequent shaking and agitating with no change in the problem.

Flavors might be PG based and the added shots upped the ratio quite a bit, but I've vaped tons of pure PG juice and never had anything like this happen.

Maybe sweetener? I'm totally ignorant when it comes to making juice, so would adding more sweetener usually accompany adding additional flavoring? That would explain the caramelization and quick darkening of the wicks. I noticed on my SS setups I was getting an odd clear-ish brown crystally type looking buildup on the ends of the coil where it transitions to the wick.

Very odd all around, I've been vaping for quite a long time, have vaped absolutely tons of different juices (even from MBV!) and never experienced anything like this before. My only guess is the sweetener and/or alcohol and/or some chemical in the flavoring when in such high concentrations at such high power start degrading or burning very quickly.

 

[finanie]

Well the builds I use most are in the 25-45 watt range so pretty high, but as I said I've used plenty of MBV juice in the past with builds at those same power levels without issue. The only reason I suspected it could have something to do with power levels is because my sister doesn't seem to have issues with it in her devices, so I'm not sure what's going on.


Very odd all around, I've been vaping for quite a long time, have vaped absolutely tons of different juices (even from MBV!) and never experienced anything like this before. My only guess is the sweetener and/or alcohol and/or some chemical in the flavoring when in such high concentrations at such high power start degrading or burning very quickly.

Despite taking basic electronics principles, the whole watts, ohms, volts thing has always confused me. I use this chart to help. http://www.vaporsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/power-vaping-chart-lg.jpg

 

[UncleChuck]

Those charts are fairly accurate when it comes to standard clearos/cartos/etc but they aren't really applicable to rebuildables. Like I said this only happened with that specific batch I got from MBV, I'm sure it's nothing wrong with my builds.

 

[kelli]

Those charts are fairly accurate when it comes to standard clearos/cartos/etc but they aren't really applicable to rebuildables. Like I said this only happened with that specific batch I got from MBV, I'm sure it's nothing wrong with my builds.

is that what turned you blue?

 

[Ozwald]

Despite taking basic electronics principles, the whole watts, ohms, volts thing has always confused me. I use this chart to help. http://www.vaporsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/power-vaping-chart-lg.jpg

Not sure if you care, but I've taught a number of people basic electronics to get their amateur radio license. Ohm's law is actually very, very simple. Here's the way I've always taught it & I've never had anyone not understand it right away. Hopefully someone might find this useful.

First, throw watts out the window. Forget they even exist at first. Instead of the circular chart, use a triangle:

The letters are in alphabetical order.
E = Volts (Energy)
I = Current measured in Amps (I is originally from the German word for intensity - you could change it to A & remember EAR)
R = Resistance measured in Ohms

Think of a water hose. Your volts are the amount of water. Your amps are how fast the water is flowing. Your ohms are the resistance (or diameter) of the hose. If you have a set amount of water, flowing at a certain speed, the hose has to be of a specific size for it to work. If you know the speed & size, there's only a set amount that can flow. If you know the amount & size, there's only limited speed that the water can flow. That's why they're all related.

If you look at the triangle, all the math is laid out for you. Whichever you want to determine, put your thumb over it. All three equations are multiplication or division. The bottom row is multiplied, the the other two are volts divided by the other one, just like if you were to write a / symbol instead of the traditional division symbol... like a fraction. Easy, right?

Now bring watts (power) back in. Since the original 3 are all related, you can mathematically figure it out with any of the two, but really power is nothing but volts times amps - or in the case of the hose, how fast an amount of water is moving. A lot of water (high voltage) doesn't have any power if it's moving slow. Fast moving water can always be dangerous (high amperage), but it increases as the amount goes up. That's power. If you can remember volts times amps = voltage, you can always figure out the power without memorizing all the other equations. If you don't know amps, use the triangle first to use the voltage & resistance to figure out the amps, then you figure out the power as a second step. Once that's easy, you can memorize a 2nd way to calculate power. Get comfortable with those 2 & add a 3rd. But really, you don't need them, they only save you 1 step.

 

[mcol]

Not sure if you care, but I've taught a number of people basic electronics to get their amateur radio license. Ohm's law is actually very, very simple. Here's the way I've always taught it & I've never had anyone not understand it right away. Hopefully someone might find this useful.

First, throw watts out the window. Forget they even exist at first. Instead of the circular chart, use a triangle:

The letters are in alphabetical order.
E = Volts (Energy)
I = Current measured in Amps (I is originally from the German word for intensity - you could change it to A & remember EAR)
R = Resistance measured in Ohms

Think of a water hose. Your volts are the amount of water. Your amps are how fast the water is flowing. Your ohms are the resistance (or diameter) of the hose. If you have a set amount of water, flowing at a certain speed, the hose has to be of a specific size for it to work. If you know the speed & size, there's only a set amount that can flow. If you know the amount & size, there's only limited speed that the water can flow. That's why they're all related.

If you look at the triangle, all the math is laid out for you. Whichever you want to determine, put your thumb over it. All three equations are multiplication or division. The bottom row is multiplied, the the other two are volts divided by the other one, just like if you were to write a / symbol instead of the traditional division symbol... like a fraction. Easy, right?

Now bring watts (power) back in. Since the original 3 are all related, you can mathematically figure it out with any of the two, but really power is nothing but volts times amps - or in the case of the hose, how fast an amount of water is moving. A lot of water (high voltage) doesn't have any power if it's moving slow. Fast moving water can always be dangerous (high amperage), but it increases as the amount goes up. That's power. If you can remember volts times amps = voltage, you can always figure out the power without memorizing all the other equations. If you don't know amps, use the triangle first to use the voltage & resistance to figure out the amps, then you figure out the power as a second step. Once that's easy, you can memorize a 2nd way to calculate power. Get comfortable with those 2 & add a 3rd. But really, you don't need them, they only save you 1 step.

Gosh that's deep.

 

[Ozwald]

Gosh that's deep.

Not really. It's pretty simple stuff, really. People just try to make it appear more difficult than it really is. If you can draw a triangle & remember 3 letters in alphabetical order, you can master ohm's law.

 

[bsoplinger]

I didn't take notes...

Is there gonna be a test?

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2

 

[finanie]

Not sure if you care, but I've taught a number of people basic electronics to get their amateur radio license. Ohm's law is actually very, very simple. Here's the way I've always taught it & I've never had anyone not understand it right away. Hopefully someone might find this useful.

That's awesome! I think my problem with math is that it involves things I can't conceptualize. Like a volt or an amp, what do they look like? Your water, hose analogy makes it easier to visualize and understand.

Thanks for posting this!

 

[mcol]

Not really. It's pretty simple stuff, really. People just try to make it appear more difficult than it really is. If you can draw a triangle & remember 3 letters in alphabetical order, you can master ohm's law.

I agree with you actually. And you did a nice job.

 

[1BlackSheep]

I revisited Bananas Foster tonight, and its gotten much better! I think it arrived in the mail on Monday or Tuesday, was gnarly on arrival, but has become nice so soon. Can't wait for it to steep some more. Tastes like banana runt candy and cinnamon.

 

[Machael]

After reading the Spineful reviews, I just couldn't resist ordering some more flavors.

Pineapple upside down cake: 65/35 24mg and 3 shots
Banana Cream Pie: 65/35 24mg and 2 shots

free sample of Strawberry Shortcake.

I haven't been able to taste anything with less than 2 shots (except Hawk Sauce).