MTL Build?

[LewisW295]

Good Evening all

My kayfun clone is on its way but I'd like to know what the best wire would be for a MTL rta?

I don't want fancy twisted alien xenos stapled nonsense (Ill leave that for my Drop Dead) just simple, Kanthal builds.

What's the difference going to be between a 1.0 and 1.5?

Haven't built a MTL rta yet so not sure where to start.

 

[TwistedThrottle]

What's the difference going to be between a 1.0 and 1.5?

0.5 ohms

 

[LewisW295]

0.5 ohms

You know what I meant haha

 

[TwistedThrottle]

I havn't used a Kayfun for years but I seem to recall it sings at 9 wraps around 2mm using 28ga kanthal. I also used 30ga but it was too flimsy for me to re-wick easily. Steam-engine will dial you into where you want to be though. Hope this helps and sorry for the smart arzz reply, I couldn't help myself!

 

[bombastinator]

I’m doing 2.5mm 28g SS 7 wrap single wire coils and getting somewhere near 1ohm out of em on a berserker mini 1.0 rta.

 

[Katya]

Hi Lewis. Are you using Kanthal wire? My favorite Kayfun build is 2.5 mm ID, ~1-1.2Ω, 28 or 29 g Kanthal. Just works for me at ~8-12 watts, depending on the juice I'm using.

 

[bombastinator]

0.5 ohms

 

[Katya]

What's the difference going to be between a 1.0 and 1.5?

Not much, You'll need slightly higher wattage for the 1.5 1.0Ω coil.

Never mind. See more detailed answer in my post #20. Thanks, Scott.

 

[LewisW295]

Thanks all.

Would 28g wire be the better bet for the Kayfun then?

 

[bombastinator]

Thanks all.

Would 28g wire be the better bet for the Kayfun then?

I don’t know about better but it was the advice I got when I asked a question like this a few weeks ago, and it seems to work.

 

[Katya]

Thanks all.

Would 28g wire be the better bet for the Kayfun then?

Whatever you got on hand; 28 g is easier to work with, 29 heats up faster. It's a toss-up.

 

[Katya]

Haven't built a MTL RTA yet so not sure where to start.

Are you familiar with this vaping calculator? If not, you should. It will tell you exactly how to build coils, proper resistance, ID, wattage and all that stuff you need to know before you start building.

Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

 

[LewisW295]

Are you familiar with this vaping calculator? If not, you should. It will tell you exactly how to build coils, proper resistance, ID, wattage and all that stuff you need to know before you start building.

Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

I am familiar with SE. I actually have an app on my phone but I wanted to see what the concensus was from people over the machine. The machine can tell me how to build everything ever, but it can't tell me what to build.

 

[TwistedThrottle]

Build them all. You can get 1.0 ohm coils by using different materials at different gauges, spaced or contact coils, small inside diameter or large. They'll all give you a different vape experience, just try different ways til you find what you like and keep doing your favorite. Part of the enjoyment about rebuilding coils (other than being the cheapest way to vape) is the fun of the hobby. If you don't enjoy building a certain coil, try something else. If you don't have wire already, I would suggest getting kanthal in 26, 28 and 30ga and SS in 24, 26 and 28ga.

 

[MartinD]

I'm building my berserkers,doggy and Kayfun Prime with kanthal 28ga,2mm,7 wraps slightly spaced.That is about 1 ohm and I am very satisfied with vape on that setup.12,5-13W.If hole under the coil is 2>mm,make bigger coil diameter.

 

[evan le'garde]

I rotate ten Kayfun V4's. All of which have 29g kanthal coils, five 2mm wraps = 1 ohm. I vape at 11.5 watts. The 29g kanthal is rigid and is really easy to re-wick so lasts for months. The ramp up time is pretty quick too and is the main reason why i use 29g. So it's a great balance where i get a decent vape at a low wattage. Thicker wire means more power so what's the point in that ?. Anything thinner and the coil deforms when i try to re-wick. Been using 29g this way for yonks. It's all i use !.

 

[ScottP]

Not much, You'll need slightly higher wattage for the 1.5Ω coil.

You have that backwards. The lower the resistance the higher wattage is needed. Since resistance is what causes electrical energy to be converted to heat energy, with less resistance, you need more energy to create the same amount of heat.

 

[ScottP]

Thanks all.

Would 28g wire be the better bet for the Kayfun then?

What wire do you already have. Really I have built everything from 26g to 32 ga and anywhere in that range CAN be used. We just need to know what you have to help better.

 

[Katya]

The lower the resistance the higher wattage is needed.

I know. Thanks for catching it. I need to proofread my posts.

 

[Katya]

What's the difference going to be between a 1.0 and 1.5?

What wire do you already have. Really I have built everything from 26g to 32 ga and anywhere in that range CAN be used. We just need to know what you have to help better.

OK, now that I'm paying attention.

Let my clarify what I really meant to say. While using regulated mods in wattage mode, you just choose the wattage that suits you--say 10 watts. You'll need to use higher voltage (4.2v) to get to 10 watts with a 1.5Ω coil, lower voltage (3.5v) with 1Ω coil. The beauty of regulated vw mods is that you don't have to do the math. The chip does the math for you. Which means, basically, that you just set your preferred wattage and forget it. You'll get your 10 watts no matter what resistance coil you use--1.0 or 1.5Ω. If you feel that 10 watts is too much or not enough, adjust slowly up or down.

I too have used wire gauges from 26g to 30g (1-1.5Ω coils) and they all work, but I prefer 28-29g. They heat fast and are easy to work with.