MTL nicotine strength question

[redeuce]

If you like the T22 and expect to use it long term, order the coils from fast tech. When you go to the page for the coils, it says $6.52 per pack. If you order 5 packs and put it in your cart, price goes down to $5.92. I'm not sure if this link will work. It's my shopping cart.

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For less than $30 you have over a years worth of coils. The coils last 2 weeks on average and you can hot water clean them and get another week out of them.

Couple more tips. My silver one had a matching silver metal tip. If you get one with a metal tip, change to the black Delrin tip in the box. There is also a cigarillo type tip. That tightens the draw even more. You can try that. I didn't like it.

Most importantly, DONT draw on it like the Smok unit. Draw on it like a cig. Easy short puffs. It vapes warmer than many devices. You will be surprised at first, but will soon get used to it. Don't try a direct lung hit. You will get an unpleasant warm hit.

Finally, the only drawback I've found is that because it's a fixed 14 watts, you will find not all flavors pop at 14 watts. No big deal. Play with flavors and you will find the right combo. Out of 7 flavors I like, I had to drop one because it was muted at the 14 watts.

 

[redeuce]

As Trig said, we aren't vaping experts. Just two guys that regularly use this setup and trying to help. Your experience may vary. I have found that most complaints on the device are either user error or trying to do something that the unit is not designed to do, like direct lung hitting.
Keep us in the loop.

 

[DQuit]

Report for today:

I copied and made instructions from all the advice here (Thank you) and printed them out this morning, ran and picked up the vape mail and then I just couldn't leave without trying to charge it up and get it filled for the car today. I ended up leaving about 30 minutes later which was OK, at least I could enjoy the T22 and vaping during a boring car ride. The instructions made it pretty fast to set up and get vaping. I think it was on charge about 1 hour. It could have been less and felt like more. Vape mail is too much fun.

I have vaped it down to the 3rd hole down and am using 12 mg which seems to be good. At first I thought it was a little too strong, but when I got tired and stressed later this afternoon it was great and still is.

I am really happy with this so far and quite surprised by it. There is a definate throat hit that I was not getting with dialing back the sub ohm devices. I sure could have used this coming straight off cigs!

Now I am glad I ordered the other Prism tanks last night to put on the Smoke and Pico.

QUESTIONS:
1. Why can't you charge the T22 in a car (book says no)? It was one of the reasons I wanted it just in case I was stuck out and needed to charge it.

2. Do you need to turn it off at night when you are not using it? Does the battery drain if I leave it on all night?

3. How many watts can you take the Prism up to, just in case I try it on a flavor with the other 2 mods.

 

[bombastinator]

Report for today:

I copied and made instructions from all the advice here (Thank you) and printed them out this morning, ran and picked up the vape mail and then I just couldn't leave without trying to charge it up and get it filled for the car today. I ended up leaving about 30 minutes later which was OK, at least I could enjoy the T22 and vaping during a boring car ride. The instructions made it pretty fast to set up and get vaping. I think it was on charge about 1 hour. It could have been less and felt like more. Vape mail is too much fun.

I have vaped it down to the 3rd hole down and am using 12 mg which seems to be good. At first I thought it was a little too strong, but when I got tired and stressed later this afternoon it was great and still is.

I am really happy with this so far and quite surprised by it. There is a definate throat hit that I was not getting with dialing back the sub ohm devices. I sure could have used this coming straight off cigs!

Now I am glad I ordered the other Prism tanks last night to put on the Smoke and Pico.

QUESTIONS:
1. Why can't you charge the T22 in a car (book says no)? It was one of the reasons I wanted it just in case I was stuck out and needed to charge it.

2. Do you need to turn it off at night when you are not using it? Does the battery drain if I leave it on all night?

3. How many watts can you take the Prism up to, just in case I try it on a flavor with the other 2 mods.

I only know the answer to #1: dash cigarette lighter ports don't put out enough amps. It also means you want one of the more powerful 3 amp dongles if you want to charge it from a wall watt. It will probably still charge in the car but veeeery slowly

 

[redeuce]

1) A car charger can fluctuate voltage. They say to use constant voltage in the house. Don't know if that's true, but I've seen other devices that don't recommend car charging. If it's fully charged you get more than a day, so if you leave the house fully charged you have no worries.
2) I don't believe there is much of a drain if you don't turn it off: however I turn mine off at night.
3) No idea. Trig can tell you.
Glad it's going well.

 

[bombastinator]

1) A car charger can fluctuate voltage. They say to use constant voltage in the house. Don't know if that's true, but I've seen other devices that don't recommend car charging. If it's fully charged you get more than a day, so if you leave the house fully charged you have no worries.
2) I don't believe there is much of a drain if you don't turn it off: however I turn mine off at night.
3) No idea. Trig can tell you.
Glad it's going well.

This probably only applies to older "fully mechanical" cars where it's literally just a battery and an alternator and resistor or two. The newer cars generally have even weaker power systems though so either way it's not great.

 

[DQuit]

I only know the answer to #1: dash cigarette lighter ports don't put out enough amps. It also means you want one of the more powerful 3 amp dongles if you want to charge it from a wall watt. It will probably still charge in the car but veeeery slowly

You are right! In my mind I was thinking about using the usb slot in the car and that is not even close to the plug in for the cig lighter hole. Thank you for clearing this up for me!

 

[DQuit]

This probably only applies to older "fully mechanical" cars where it's literally just a battery and an alternator and resistor or two. The newer cars generally have even weaker power systems though so either way it's not great.

I am just now "getting" it with the cars ugh! I either better go fully charged or get a second unit later. I bet they will be on sale for Columbus day.

 

[redeuce]

I use two. When 1 goes dead I pick up the other.

 

[DQuit]

I use two. When 1 goes dead I pick up the other.

I figure I will end up with two of the T22's and use them like that too.

 

[stols001]

Yep, I can't even charge my cellphone in my car. Oh I have a cig "adaptor" preinstalled (I would have rather preferred a cigarette lighter at the time, but I was smoking when I bought it) there simply isn't enough power supplied (or heck, the wrong kind of power, IDK) but it has a thoroughly useless USB port and no "mini electric oven" lighter instead... I'm actually more likely to need to charge my phone than my mod in my car though, so I've gotten used to making sure all my electronics are fully powered, etc., as I'm leaving the house....

Anna

 

[DQuit]

Yep, I can't even charge my cellphone in my car. Oh I have a cig "adaptor" preinstalled (I would have rather preferred a cigarette lighter at the time, but I was smoking when I bought it) there simply isn't enough power supplied (or heck, the wrong kind of power, IDK) but it has a thoroughly useless USB port and no "mini electric oven" lighter instead... I'm actually more likely to need to charge my phone than my mod in my car though, so I've gotten used to making sure all my electronics are fully powered, etc., as I'm leaving the house....

Anna

Oh I wouldn't like not being able to charge my phone in the car! I think I would croak lol

 

[RottweilerluvNZ]

I've been using 3mg with the Endura T22 (got 2 of those), I've found it real good. I did notice (it's probably just me) that some flavors seem to have much harsher nicotine response when I draw though, like you really feel it going down and I didn't like it at all. I started on 9, then 6, but ended up at 3 and so far I've been off the cigs for 2 months now, most juices now nic free, only my MTL's have nic still as I have them all day on me. I really found more nicotine harsh, I could never do 24!

 

[redeuce]

I've been using 3mg with the Endura T22 (got 2 of those), I've found it real good. I did notice (it's probably just me) that some flavors seem to have much harsher nicotine response when I draw though, like you really feel it going down and I didn't like it at all. I started on 9, then 6, but ended up at 3 and so far I've been off the cigs for 2 months now, most juices now nic free, only my MTL's have nic still as I have them all day on me. I really found more nicotine harsh, I could never do 24!

I also have the T22. It's not unusual to get different reactions to different flavors with that unit. Because it fires at a fixed 14 watts. That's the one drawback of this device. All flavors or mixes don't react the same at that fixed wattage. That's why advanced vapers use vw, Vv and tc. To tune the mod for the best flavor.
With the T22 you find the best flavors that work with the unit. Minor inconvenience.
There might be something about the way the T18 and T22 vape concerning nic levels. I have no idea or research to verify. But I was at 12, immediately went to 6 when I got the T22. I have 7 family and friends using these, and they are all at 6 or 3.
I'd be interested if any Endura users are at 12 or 18.