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Okay I'll check out there, thanks guys for the help!
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Of course. Check youtube for a how to build coils. Lots of good stuff there. Make sure to get cotton too. I like cotton bacon for ease of use. No sense in having a coil with no wick. Also good to have small drivers and/or drill bits to wrap coils around. My mutation came with a thicker 3mm, blue handle driver. You can always use that if you have to.
I just found my old setup/old mod, put the new setup on the box and read too low res [emoji27], I've changed it over to the old coils and reads at a .3
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if you are going to be cloud chasing, really need to get an ohm reader - and check out steam-engine.org - first order of business is to keep it safe
The IPV2 fires down to 0.2 ohms. The previous build is lower than that. This is why I recommend a regulated mod. If a build is too low, the mod simply won't fire. If there's a short, it won't fire. If anything is wrong, it won't fire.
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I used the prebuilt coils in my Subtank box to make this, it works nice and is only temporary until i have more of a budget
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Ok, I know this isn't a popular opinion in this forum, but I get so sick of people preaching "safety". Yes his build is unsafe, yes his batteries aren't as advertised (no batteries are). However, as long as he isn't chain vaping, and he's taking precautionary measures (like NOT vaping when his battery gets really hot) then he's fine. I use to drip like this for 8 months, with 35 amp efest batteries and building around .12 ohms and I was FINE and so are countless other people. As long as he knows battery safety and what to do when his battery vents, what's the issue???
Not attacking anybody and I really do appreciate this forum for it's knowledge. However, this has been bothering me for a while.
/rantoff. Feel free to disagree with me.
Not attacking anybody and I really do appreciate this forum for it's knowledge. However, this has been bothering me for a while.
/rantoff. Feel free to disagree with me.
I see where you're coming from but I chain vape like a mother------, battery gets stupid hot all the time, I changed it up now and I'm good
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My point was that you would probably be fine with that build if you just knew what to look out for, what amp ratings on batteries are good for what builds, etc. But as long as you're happy that is all that matters my friend.
Well thats the thing.. Before he made this thread he DIDNT know. A vape shop set it up for him and sent him on his way. There was no education on amperage, venting, shorting, anything. This is the way alot of B&M stores are, only in it for the money. He also said hes a chain vaper, and yes his batteries were getting really hot. If it werent for this thread, you never know how long that battery wouldve held out before venting on him. You may have been fine for those 8 months, but you never know when a battery just might be damaged enough that one simple little burst will set it off and boom. Those Efests are NOT 35amp batteries. There are no batteries higher than 30A period. Youre free to vape how you choose, but its a crap shoot when it comes to pushing a battery beyond what its supposed to be, and come on we dont need anymore stories in the news about exploding mods, theyre giving us a bad enough name already.
Forum user Mooch has been doing some really awesome discharge tests on alot of the batteries out at the moment in the Battery forum. You should check out some of the reports in there and see how some of these so called 30A and 40A batteries really hold up.
I'm gonna jump in and recommend 24g kanthal if you want something a little thicker than 26. It's the wire I use most at the moment, but I vape around 70+ watts. You could do a 6 wrap on 3mm to get around .28 - .29. Should give you around 30% headroom on your batteries for your mech. You shouldn't have any problems IMO doing a .2~ build on your regulated box, but I would keep it around .3 for your mech mod. Wire thickness will depend more on what your target ohms, heat and ramp up time.
Don't forget to practice your lung hits. Big part for clouds is inhaling and exhaling a certain way. I'm sure there's plenty of videos on youtube you can find. Good luck and stay safe!
Don't forget to practice your lung hits. Big part for clouds is inhaling and exhaling a certain way. I'm sure there's plenty of videos on youtube you can find. Good luck and stay safe!
I can appreciate your frustration as I've experienced the same thing many times in different types of forums. And I think you're right 99.99% of the time. But you've set some conditions (not chain at crazy high amps, stopping if the battery gets hot, knowing what to do if a battery vents) that we often can't assume will be followed when we recommend a battery or a coil build. We have to assume the worst case when making recommendations. If anyone feels comfortable enough with their knowledge to go beyond the recommendations, they can. And almost always with great results.
Often our recommendations are based though on what would happen if a regulated mod autofired or a mech mod's button broke, got stuck, or was accidentally pressed in a pocket. Having a certain battery, or particular build, can prevent the battery from venting or worse. As you said, we can often vape at way beyond what certain ratings say we can safely do, without problems. It's when things go wrong that this safety-related stuff comes into play...as all safety things like air bags, etc., do.
And where do we draw the line? How far do we let someone go beyond what might be safe, if he/she does things right, before saying stop? For me personally, I feel we have to err on the side of caution as we don't know all the details. But, I will always respect the person who knows what to look out for and vapes at beyond what we recommend.
Dangerous stuff... I won't go lower than 0.3 if if is for me and most of my build is 0.5 or above. The battery will also need a recharge very fast with that 0.1 build.
Phew, thank god for this forum and it's members, that could of gone really bad.. Please vape safely and post on here if unsure..
What a nice vape shop to build you a .1ohm coil on a mech mod, you could have ended up with no eye's.
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