Mvp w/kayfun problem

[Joey13091]

My kayfun used to connect just fine with my mvp. I took it apart to fill up and clean. Put it back together and now it won't read ohms or fire.

It says 0.0 ohms when I test and also doesn't fire. But the kayfun fires fine on a mech mod. I didn't even touch the coil that I had already built on it that is 1.3.

I screwed on a dripper and it reads the ohms just fine like it was before. I just don't get how all of a sudden I take it apart and it doesn't work now.

Can anyone help me out here? I have no idea why it stopped working. Makes no sense.

Thanks everybody.

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[steved5600]

May be a problem with the center pin. They sell insulators for that on Kidney Puncher and Fat Daddies. Or you can google Kayfun insulators.

 

[Choc_Addic]

Sounds like not making a connection to me.

You can try 2 things.

Pry up just a tiny bit on MPV center connection, or adjust the 510 connection (this will cause the center platform to come lose can short out) on the KF.

Cheers

 

[Joey13091]

I've tried everything with the kayfun itself to get it to work. I usually had to unscrew the connection on the bottom of the kayfun for it to make contact on the mvp for some reason.



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[Joey13091]

The insulator is still in it too. I don't get it.

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[Bunnykiller]

look at the centerpin screwhead on the bottom of the Kayfun, it should be just a tad extended beyond the 510 threads. If you re-assembled it and missed that part of rebuilding, you may have inserted the positive pin screw too far into the base 510 connect and it is now too deep to make contact with the pin on the battery...

some batteries have smaller positive pins that can "extend" into the 510 base thread of the atty ( like the SVD)

 

[VaPreis]

A reading of "0.0" on the MVP indicates a short. If it weren't making a connection, it would read "non".

So your Kayfun is now shorted after cleaning. You say you back out the screw on the 510 for it to make a connection on your MVP, but if it is a Kayfun Lite, most of these aren't adjustable and should be kept tight. The screw is what keeps the positive block tight on the deck.

Take it back apart and see if the positive block has now spun and is contacting the negative side of the base causing a short.

Otherwise, make sure your coil is properly raised off the deck and not shorted to the base, and that there isn't any leads that might be shorting to the chimney.

 

[jp_cfc09]

exactly what vapreis said, if its not makeing contact or a broken coil it reads non. must be shorting out to make 0.0, what ohm is the coil in it at the mintue.

 

[Joey13091]

A reading of "0.0" on the MVP indicates a short. If it weren't making a connection, it would read "non".

So your Kayfun is now shorted after cleaning. You say you back out the screw on the 510 for it to make a connection on your MVP, but if it is a Kayfun Lite, most of these aren't adjustable and should be kept tight. The screw is what keeps the positive block tight on the deck.

Take it back apart and see if the positive block has now spun and is contacting the negative side of the base causing a short.

Otherwise, make sure your coil is properly raised off the deck and not shorted to the base, and that there isn't any leads that might be shorting to the chimney.

Thank you for the reply. I've been using it all day on my mech mod with no problems.

I figured it might be a short but it fires well on the mech.

It has a adjustable screw because it's a kayfun 3.1 clone. I don't know if those are supposed to be like that but this one is.

If it was shorting would it still fire on the mech?

Thank you so much for the information.

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[Maestro]

If you suspect a short, it shouldn't even be in the same room as your mech mod. Put it back on your MVP and figure out where the short is.

 

[VaPreis]

That's the problem with a mech....it will fire anything, whether it's shorted or not.

The 3.1 screw is adjustable, but I've also seen 3.1 clones where the screw was contacting the base by the threads causing a short and it could just be a difference in the amount of pressure that is put on it when screwed on the MVP vs. your mech.

That is the area I would be looking at closely, considering it's working ok (for now) on your mech and your MVP is working fine with other atomizers.

EDIT: Perhaps you could post a few pictures of the bottom of the Kayfun and the 510 of your MVP?

 

[Joey13091]

That's the problem with a mech....it will fire anything, whether it's shorted or not.

The 3.1 screw is adjustable, but I've also seen 3.1 clones where the screw was contacting the base by the threads causing a short and it could just be a difference in the amount of pressure that is put on it when screwed on the MVP vs. your mech.

That is the area I would be looking at closely, considering it's working ok (for now) on your mech and your MVP is working fine with other atomizers.

EDIT: Perhaps you could post a few pictures of the bottom of the Kayfun and the 510 of your MVP?

I would but im at work now. But I think I have determined it is the mvp that is the problem.

Now sometimes it reads random ohms when there isn't even a thing on it. And now with every topper I put on it it says 0.0.

is this a common problem with the mvp?

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[VaPreis]

I don't know that it's common, but I seem to recall reading about another member with a similar problem recently.

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[Joey13091]

I don't know that it's common, but I seem to recall reading about another member with a similar problem recently.

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Well thanks a lot for taking the time to help.

I don't need it I just liked it for when I'm out for awhile because the battery life is awesome.

Maybe I'll take it down to a local shop and see what they say.

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[Joey13091]

Sounds like not making a connection to me.

You can try 2 things.

Pry up just a tiny bit on MPV center connection, or adjust the 510 connection (this will cause the center platform to come lose can short out) on the KF.

Cheers

Pulled up on the 510 on the mvp and it works now. Thank you very much.

So now that I moved the 510 on the device, is it broken and prone to do it again and have to adjust often?

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[Equilibrium]

I had the same exact problem with my MVP 2 and KFL+. The problem is the positive pin on the KF is ridiculously long, it sticks down way further than the 510 threads and after repeatedly screwing it down on the mvp it pushes the center pin down too far causing it to short against the housing.

What I had to do was gently pull the center pin back up on the mvp and make sure it was centered again then turn it off and let it reset itself. After that I made a small, thin plastic washer and put it on the KFL+ tank before screwing it back on the MVP 2. You can buy one, but I didn't have one handy so I made it out of some plastic I had laying around. You could also grind the positive pin down so it's flush with the 510 threading but in doing that you'll completely grind away the slot for a screwdriver if you ever wanted to remove that pin, so I didn't do that. By putting the washer on there it creates a small gap between the tank and the 510 connection and the beauty ring but that's what you need. It doesn't look bad at all. I'll post a pic....

 

[Equilibrium]

See, you can hardly notice it. I may be wrong, yours may work fine after pulling the pin but I believe over time it's going to happen again if you don't either grind the pin down or use a washer to create some space for that stupid long pin

 

[plant]

What I do is screw the kayfun down just enough to feel it come into contact with the 510 pin on the mvp, then I screw the beauty ring UP against the kayfun and make it tight that way, like a lock nut.

 

[Equilibrium]

Yep, that's what I do.

Mine worked great for months without that washer on there then one day when I was out it quit working and read 0.0

It took me a little while to figure out what the problem was because the kayfun worked on my Vamo and on my mechanical's but nothing would work on the MVP. I'd screw a different tank on the MVP and it would read non (not making contact), then I'd screw the KF back on and it would read 0.0. The kayfun was pushing the pin so far down it was shorting against the housing on the 510 connector.

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

The issue where the MVP 2 pin gets pushed down seems to be a common issue. I currently have one, but I had two at one point. Gave one to my sister. I've had to pull the pins up on both ocassionally. I would say it's "broken" now, as it's such a common thing, but rather a design flaw of Innokin's I think. It's the only flaw I've found on the MVP really, aside from a slightly stiffer firing button which I don't find to be an issue really. I like that about the MVP. Kept it from firing unintentionally.