my annoying experience with the phoenix xl's

[DarkAynjil]

You're having feeding issues. I'm gonna guess you were a heavy smoker like myself. You have to bear in mind these were not made for heavy chain-vapers like us. However, if you take the phx bottom coil fresh out of the package, and dry vape it, you will notice you get a cloud of vapor or two (this is a pure PG/VG solution known as primer that the manufacturer puts on the wicks to prevent cracking during shipping). Almost all manufacturers will prime the units they send out, because silica strands crack when they rub and bounce against each other. Pull the seal, pop the tube off, pull the stem, and using a pair of delicate scissors or nail-clippers, trim the wicks to just on the verge of being inside the cup. Re-assemble, fill, and vape. When you take a drag, and see bubbles go up immediately, you've got it right.

 

[DarkAynjil]

You can also troubleshoot by squeezing the cart gently when you get the bad taste or dry-hit. This will force juice into the coil.

 

[Debadoo]

I've had pretty good luck with my 5 bc phoenix's, but it did appear that they had something in them which I thought was primer. Some type of liquid was in a couple of them out of the box, I could see it. At first I had 3 filled, and got very little almost no flavor. But after they sat for a couple days the flavor was amazing. I've had them decide not to work, but when I refilled and vaped down a bit they kicked in again and worked great. I love them, then not so much, then love them again, then not so much. At least they're easy to clean. I'm really wanting to try the vivi nova now.

 

[bigpman]

The bottom coils are really good, but on some of them I noticed that the coil was set too low. This causes wicking issues. I pull all mine apart and rinse them off. After this I make sure that the coil is level with the slits on the center tube. This means that the wicks are level with the slits as well. If they are not, I take a paperclip and bend a very small 90 degree angle and place it under one of the sides of the coil and gently pull up. I repeat this on the other side until the coil and wicks are aligned with the slits. Put it back together and fill upside down. All wicking issues are gone

 

[NC_Fog]

I love these CE3's. I also do as bigpman does immediately after opening the pack. I also trim the wicks flush with the tube. I can constantly chain vape these with no issues. I also clean them after every 4 or 5 refills. I've been using the same 2 for about 3 weeks now. They perform like new. It seems you can't kill these things. I hope to be satisfied with them for a long time.

Marty

 

[DarkAynjil]

Vaping the 2.2-2.4 ohm version at 5.6 volts will kill it. Ask me how I know.

 

[bigpman]

Vaping the 2.2-2.4 ohm version at 5.6 volts will kill it. Ask me how I know.

LOL!!! I never go over 4.2....normally I am at about 3.9volts

 

[Debadoo]

The bottom coils are really good, but on some of them I noticed that the coil was set too low. This causes wicking issues. I pull all mine apart and rinse them off. After this I make sure that the coil is level with the slits on the center tube. This means that the wicks are level with the slits as well. If they are not, I take a paperclip and bend a very small 90 degree angle and place it under one of the sides of the coil and gently pull up. I repeat this on the other side until the coil and wicks are aligned with the slits. Put it back together and fill upside down. All wicking issues are gone

I haven't tried taking the tube off yet but might at some point. I destroyed a battery trying to do this with a stardust type. I know these come apart much easier, but still leary til I get some pliers. But........when you say you pull up the coils even with the slit, do you mean the top of the slit?

 

[bigpman]

I haven't tried taking the tube off yet but might at some point. I destroyed a battery trying to do this with a stardust type. I know these come apart much easier, but still leary til I get some pliers. But........when you say you pull up the coils even with the slit, do you mean the top of the slit?

just be careful with the pliers so that you do not destroy the threads.

basically, what I'm saying is that the wick need to be straight. if the coil is down the wick will be bent upwards by the slits . hope that makes more sense

 

[bigpman]

just be careful with the pliers so that you do not destroy the threads. Maybe use a 510 extender and pull on that?

basically, what I'm saying is that the wick need to be straight. if the coil is down the wick will be bent upwards by the slits . hope that makes more sense

Maybe use a 510 extender and pull on that?

 

[Debadoo]

just be careful with the pliers so that you do not destroy the threads.

basically, what I'm saying is that the wick need to be straight. if the coil is down the wick will be bent upwards by the slits . hope that makes more sense

I'm sure it will when I actually see it. Will keep this info handy. Thanks.

 

[DarkAynjil]

LOL!!! I never go over 4.2....normally I am at about 3.9volts

Well, I ordered the 2.6-2.8, and they ohm out to around 2.3-2.4 once they break in... at that point I run them at 4.7 under load, or 4.8ocv. No issues, though at that level of use, they will dry hit easily if not feeding well. Also, I ran one at 4.8 under load for about two and a half weeks before it died. The 5.6 was just pure curiosity.

 

[cocoabellaRSD]

The bottom coils are really good, but on some of them I noticed that the coil was set too low. This causes wicking issues. I pull all mine apart and rinse them off. After this I make sure that the coil is level with the slits on the center tube. This means that the wicks are level with the slits as well. If they are not, I take a paperclip and bend a very small 90 degree angle and place it under one of the sides of the coil and gently pull up. I repeat this on the other side until the coil and wicks are aligned with the slits. Put it back together and fill upside down. All wicking issues are gone

u should make a video of this , if you haven't already . I can learn easier from watching how to's than reading.

 

[toadyfatz]

u should make a video of this , if you haven't already . I can learn easier from watching how to's than reading.

Yeah, I would love to see a video of this also. I tried this method and destroyed one of my bc phoenix's. I am now having pretty good luck with taking it apart and trimming the wicks and pulling the metal post up a bit to give the wicks a bit more room etc...But I would love to see how you gently pull up the coil to make it level. I had zero luck with this.

 

[RavenTai]

As to the burning issue quite often on the pheonix the coils get pushed together during assembly the coils short to each other lowering the resistance causing strong hot spot and burning, I have measured them as low as 1 ohm, my Ego batteries refuse to fire these,

due to high instances of shorted wicks, open circuits, disintegrating silica wicks that throw fibers in my mouth and epoxy present on the ceramic cups I do not use them as delivered, I rebuild them right out of the box, I burn the epoxy off the ceramic cup and re-wick with cotton yarn wicks and home assembled "non-resistance, resistance, non-resistance" coils,

you can get quite a few rebuilds out of them, but eventually the ceramic cups crack, the syringe hole in the top seal stats leaking in air that lets juice flow out past the wick, the outer tubes crack at the drip tip if dropped too much, and you have to buy another box to get fresh parts to keep the ball rolling.