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dannyv45

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I highly recommend the fore mentioned ejuice me up calculator. Most flavors are PG based so in the calculator you would leave it at 100%. If it's a VG flavor (Very rare) or if it's alcohol based set it to 0%. Very simple.

The calculator will allow you to put your starting NIC strength (24, 36, 60, 100mg) Will allow you to set your amount to make as well as final mix nic strength (0,6,12,18,24) and pg/vg ratio (75/25, 50/50, 25/50 etc...). It's what most around here use.

Also if your just getting into DYI. I recommend reading my blogs

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then read hoosier's blogs.

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then read the stickies at the top of the page.

this will explain a lot of the how's and why's and will stop your brain from hurting:).
 
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ok, downloaded the juice me up calculator. seems like it makes things pretty easy. I think.....so heres a couple of questions. when it says to add say 1.67 or .73 of something, are you just guesstimating or are you rounding up or down or is there a precise way to get that measurement? also, where would you recommend I get my nicotine, pg, and vg from? im looking for a good price with free or low shipping... thank you so much for your help!!!!!
 

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Fairly new myself. and I have been endlessly reading everything here, past and present.
It's physically easy, but your going to go to cooking school here, unless you don't have a desire to make a complex juice.
you need to be fairly precise so that you can create what you mixed before
you need dif. size syringes 1 to 10 .ml - and blunt tip needles 17g and 14 g.
and some graduated cylinders to mix high nic. bases down to a good strength for you to be working with, and storage bottles..
Good Luck...
 

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Just make small batches,i cut my nic base by the drops and add 2 to 5% flavourings,its easy as pie.For example,i cut my 100 mg nic too 12 mg by adding 40 drops of VG/ and 40 drops of PG and just add 3 drops of flavour....SIMPLE..the nic may not be exactly 12 mg but i know its very close,it aint going too kill me.8-o
 
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ok, downloaded the juice me up calculator. seems like it makes things pretty easy. I think.....so heres a couple of questions. when it says to add say 1.67 or .73 of something, are you just guesstimating or are you rounding up or down or is there a precise way to get that measurement? also, where would you recommend I get my nicotine, pg, and vg from? im looking for a good price with free or low shipping... thank you so much for your help!!!!!

Use a 1ml syringe and you can get very close as they increment by .02 so you can measure to 1.66 or to .72. You can get all the measuring supplys you need here.

http://www.myfreedomsmokes.com/categories/miscellaneous-diy-supplies.html
 
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thanks for all the replys!!! where can I buy my nicotine ? also, why do you guys dilute it? isn't that what the calculator is for? it tells you how much nicotine to put in depending on the strength? sorry if these are dumb questions and thanks for all your help!!

You can get nic base at freedomsmoke(the one quoted before). The reason for dilution is simple. If you buy 100mg nic base and your final product is 12mg you are using the smallest amt of the bottle that you buy. Everyone does thing a little differently. Some like to make their batches of juice for several different flavors so starting with a diluted base can make it easier. It is also MUCH safer. Please keep reading the DIY thread and focus on safety before all else. Nic can be absorbed thru the skin almost instantly. Remember at high strength it is a poison. always wear protective gear when mixing up a nic base. For someone who vapes nic at 12mg and then accidently spills 100mg and it gets on their skin it will make you very sick very quickly. No joke.
 

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I don't dilute my 100mg juice. I do use a funnel to separate it into smaller bottles though, as I buy 500ml at a time, and the bottle it too big to draw from, especially when it starts getting used up. If you're a clutz like me and tend to knock things over, spilling a small bottle is better than spilling a larger one, so that's a plus too. If you are worried, just do several things for safety's sake - wear gloves and goggles, maybe long sleeve, and put down a cookie sheet or some kind of tray to work on, so that if you do spill it is contained.

There are several vendors that sell the nicotine, I get mine from Nude Nicotine. If you put in the comments that this is your first nicotine purchase and ask nicely, they will put in gloves and goggles for free.

If you do decide you want to dilute your nic, as well as put it into smaller bottles, this would be a good practice in the e-juice calculator. Try it out, tell us your results, and we'll check to see if you've got the hang of it, or where you're going wrong. It's important to REALLY understand how the calculators work before you start mixing anything.

Let's assume you buy from Nude Nicotine and you get:
120ml of 100mg/ml nicotine in PG
Some empty glass bottles in their smallest size of 120ml

How much nic and PG would you need to make a 120ml bottle of 36mg/ml nicotine at 100%PG?
How many 120ml bottles would you need to dilute the entire 120ml of 100mg nicotine?

Bonus question:
How much nic, PG, VG would you need to make a 120ml bottle of 36mg nicotine at 50/50 PG/VG?
 

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When I separated my 100mg nicotine into smaller (120ml) bottles I did it at the kitchen table. I had the bottles placed in a large cake pan with a towel placed in the bottom (to absorb anything that might have spilled). I was wearing a disposable lab coat, disposable nitrile gloves and safety goggles. I also had the ceiling fan on low to dissipate the fumes.

When I mix (from the 120ml bottle) I do it over the sink. I also have my lab coat, gloves and goggles on. Overkill? Maybe, but I ain't taken no chances.
 

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thanks for all the replys!!! where can I buy my nicotine ? also, why do you guys dilute it? isn't that what the calculator is for? it tells you how much nicotine to put in depending on the strength? sorry if these are dumb questions and thanks for all your help!!

Great reply!! I will be back in a couple days to answer these questions. Thanks for the replies

Geez the information here is getting misleading. First off if you get 100mg NIC you must dilute it. You CAN'T vape 100mg NIC because that would be very hazordious to your health. You must dilute it to your final finished vaping concentration. So if you vape 10mg you must dilute the mixture as follows 10% NIC solution to 90% plain PG or VG or a combination of both. Lets sy you want to make a 10mg 30 ml bottle of 50pg/50vg juice. You would take an empty 30ml bottle and assuming your nic solution is 100mg in a pg base you would add 10% nic solution, 40% plain PG and 50% plain VG.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE read the following before doing any mixing. I can tell by the questions you are asking that you have not completely done your research and are not quite ready for this.


My blogs

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Then read hoosier's blogs.

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then read the stickies at the top of the page.

this will explain a lot of the how's and why's.
 
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Ok.....if my base nic is 100mg per ml and I want to cut it to 36 mg in a 30 ml bottle...I would use 10.80 ml of nic and 19.20 ml of vg or pg..... right?? Thanks

Correct. I assume you won't be vaping 36mg either, so now you can use this dilution to make your flavored e-juice. Just put in the 36mg at the top (where you put the 100mg before), fill out the rest of the fields for your preferred final target strength (where you put the 36mg before), preferred pg/vg %'s and flavor %'s and you have your recipie for your final juice.

You can put the rest of the 100mg in the freezer until your 30ml 36mg is gone, and the smaller 30mg bottle is much easier to measure from when creating your final juices. Just make sure when you pull it from the freezer that you let it sit until it is room temp again before you create your next 36mg batch. Also make sure to slap a label on each bottle so you know which is which!

(Danny, I think he meant 'dilute' in the sense of creating his own 36mg to work with in his recipies instead of the 100mg. When I said I don't dilute 100mg, I didn't mean I vape it, just that is what I use as my starting point in my calculator, but some people don't like working with the 100mg, so they dilute it to 36 and then use the 36 in their recipies to further dilute down to an 18, 12, or 6mg final product)
 
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Correct but why would you want to do it that way and not just calculate you final mix base (50PG/50VG/NIC18mg) for instance?

If you just want to make your base and freeze the rest then just make what will last you 3 month (250ml) at once at your final mixing mix strength. What it seems to me is your just creating an extra step in this whole process. Unless your using greater then 10% flavoring the 1 - 2mg NIC difference is negligable.
 
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