My Crown 7 Hydro mini review

[macross444]

Hello everyone,

Ok let me profess, right off the bat, i do not work for crown7 or have any affiliation as a reseller. I'm just a regular dude who has become a big fan of there product and customer service. Hopefully none of the following comes across as some sort of super biased spam. Point being; Please don't flame me to death, I have family to support. I noticed that there seems to be little said of the new crown7 hydro on the interwebs so I thought I would throw in a little review. These are my pro and con impressions after owing mine for almost 2 months. As simple man, I enjoy scotch, books about war and bullet points. Here we go:

Pro's:

* Very good customer service: On the occasions that I have emailed them with the silliest of questions they email me back within 30 minutes on the average. I can't even get my own mother to do that.
* The hydro is a mini, perfect for the pocket. It's measures in at the same size as a 100 length cigarette.
* The Batteries, when fully charged actually last 4 hours with standard use. 2 batteries are included in the stater kit. with one exception listed below.
* They now make their carts in the US of A.
* Each cart actually last the approx 10 cigarettes worth that is advertised.
* The Flavor options available in their pre-filled carts are awesome. Especially vanilla.
* After 2 months of abuse and no cleaning the atomizer is still going strong.
* The unit is very "drip friendly" with e-liquid. The throat hit is great, with dripping or just using a prefilled cart.
* I never had any shipping issues. They were always fast and always provide a fed ex tracking number within 1-2 days.

Con's

* Within the first 5-6 weeks one of my batteries started dying and would only hold a charge for 40minutes of standard use. However, I emailed them and they responded within 10 minutes apologizing and letting me know that a free replacement was in the mail. I didn't even have to send them the defective unit.
* Crown7 does not currently sell e-liquid or blank carts. However, this may be changing. Word on the street is they may start carrying e-liquid very soon.
* The highest nic concentration of cart that they sell is only 18mg.
* They do not sell any color beyond black. It would be nice to have one that is white and orange, like a real smoke. The black is nice though.


In conclusion, The unit has been nice and reliable over the last 2 months. I would recommend their product and service to anyone.

Thanks,
Mr. Smoke

 

[macross444]

This covers dripping, refilling carts, nic strength and e-juice. I posted this on another site too but it seems that the info could be used here as well. I have them numbered off:


1) when you drip a single drop onto the mesh metal of the atomizer, put the cart back on and let it soak in for a minute. When you inhale this will produce a lot of potent vapor even off of one drop. You’ll be pushing it with 2 drops. I was leery about doing this at first because I didn’t want to unintentionally damage the atomizer. I contacted crown 7 support and responded quickly giving me advice on how to do it. Crown 7 support recommended one on the atomizer and 2 in a depleted cart to top it off. I did my homework and one of the things that really set’s the hydro apart from others is the quality atomizer they use. It’s durable and can handle dripping. They even gave me advice on how to clean it if needed (soaking in warm water and vinegar). Haven’t needed to get around to doing that yet, but it’s good to know.

Please note though: I still recommend buying their prefilled carts though. This goes for all e-cigs. As a general rule (at least from my observation) you can only top off a prefilled cart for so long, eventually the cotton/polyester stuffing will stop absorbing liquid. Even with topping off/refilling spent carts, the prefilled carts they sell still seem to last longer. Maybe it’s just the magical way they fill it, I’m not sure. I hope in the future they sell some cheap blank carts.

2) I used to smoke about 10-15 Marlboro reds a day. When I ordered the 18mg high strength prefilled carts I was pretty happy. I would go through 1.5 carts a day. I got a decent nicotine buzz but it didn’t blow my socks off. It was enough for me to stop smoking real smokes all together (and I love real smokes). As my tolerance for it increased I did find myself drawing 3-4 breaths in to get a really solid hit instead of just 2 breathes. I was starting to get little greedy with the nicotine. For most people 18mg should be good, sometimes less. In general that first or second brief inhale is just to “prime” or heat up the atomizer for really full deep throat hit.

3) When crown7 said it was safe to drip I tried 24mg of Johnson’s creek (some sweet southern tobacco stuff) and 36mg of some puresmoker e-juice (orange). This was pretty recently. Both are great I have been dripping and topping off/ carefully refilling my carts a lot. Beware the 24mg and especially the 36mg will kick like a mule when it comes to the nicotine buzz. Going back to 18mg is something I have been considering. I do love that nic though. As mentioned above I will need to need to get some more carts from them soon anyways. You can only re-fill so often. I miss their vanilla flavor too.

Please note: Word on the street is that when and if Crown 7 starts selling e-juice, they may start using Johnson’s creek as their e-liquid manufacturer. This is a good thing because Johnson’s creek is known for having quality e-juice. Don’t quote me on any of this though. Just rumors I’ve heard.

Hope that helps!

 

[Frankie]

It resembles MiniFogger in shape, colour, price and the atomizer. Is there any difference?

 

[macross444]

It resembles MiniFogger in shape, colour, price and the atomizer. Is there any difference?

I am unsure about the janty (It's a janty right?) minifogger. I have never used a minifogger model. Many mini’s are very similar in parts, type and function. It’s probably worth mentioning that the Crown 7 hydro only has an automatic heating function (heats the atomizer when inhaled) not an automatic and manual switch. This wasn’t big deal for me though, I’m just not sure if the minifogger has that feature. It appears that from previous posts that many people liked their mini fogger until it quickly went defective. With 2 months of standard (and on certain occasions heavy) use, plus lot of dripping & refilling, my Hydro is still going strong. At least from my experience the reliability seems to be good with the hydro. Yes, one of the batteries did need replacing, but crown 7 was good to their word and sent me one quickly. I am not sure if the manufacturer they use for there parts just happens to produce higher quality parts than most, but it wouldn’t surprise me. Word has it that Crown 7’s owner, Ron McDonald, actually did go over seas to make sure the production quality of their units were up to par. Their prefilled carts are even made in the US. All the comments on their great service and responsiveness is what really persuaded me to go with that over a different mini model. I hope that helps you determine some of the differences. If I had ever used the minifogger I’m sure I could be a little more help.

 

[macross444]

It resembles MiniFogger in shape, colour, price and the atomizer. Is there any difference?

Hey Frankie,

One more thing buddy. If you do intend on getting the hydro. you may want to email them first to work out shipping since you live in Slovakia. As I mentioned before, they are wicked fast with the email. they can be reached at support@crown7.com.

PS. please note that just because I'm gushing like a school girl about my hydro, doesn't mean that I won't report on deficiencies I discover over time. I'm in love but I'll try and stay objective.

 

[Frankie]

Actually I have more than enough hardware for the time being. I was just curious. Allegedly, MiniFogger is a licensed cig, so it might have the same manufacturer, that´s all.

What other e-cigs do you have?

 

[Belowme]

I can vouch for the support people from Crown7 also, I had a bad battery and they sent me one without even asking me to send mine back to them, of course I sent it back though.

They also told me last night, that POPROCKS, the man accused of being a worker of Crown7 has nothing to do with them, they told me to let everyone know.

So why POPROCKS says and does what he does, I don't know. But this is according to the support person at Crown7.

And thank you fo the info about dripping onto the mesh of the atomizer I was told not to do it but since you were successful in dripping I will give it a shot, I am a little disappointed at the rest of my e-cigs once I used the Loong Totem Which defeats all 3 of my other e-cigs..

I hope this will make it vape more. Also do you have any tips on the carts because it keeps leaking into my mouth (NASTY).

Also, when I refill my carts, I use a 1 cc syringe, it makes the Job a lot easier and you will top it off perfectly.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

They also told me last night, that POPROCKS, the man accused of being a worker of Crown7 has nothing to do with them, they told me to let everyone know.

So why POPROCKS says and does what he does, I don't know. But this is according to the support person at Crown7.

Sadly,

Crown7 flat out lied to you bud. Crown7 the supplier, and POPROCKS actually had the same login bud. I would go in to more detail but I can't. Same IP, Same Login, along with 2 other alias names with all the same login information = Supplier in Disguise. All these 4 people talked about was Crown7. They didn't offer any help or other info along those lines, and simply just logged in and posted under Crown7 reviews, etc...

I have proof, they have none .... I rest my case ...

USERNAMES: (Same Person)
* Crown7
* POPROCKS
* SMOKAMAN
* Zippitydoo

Email Address: bigjimmerXXX@gmail.com (XXX were added for privacy)

IP Addresses: All the exact same. Will not post however.

Now, if you take a gander over to the USA Forum (www.e-cigforum.com), You will notice, the Supplier for Crown7 has a username "BigJimmer"

I rest my case, and now can go eat me some poprocks ...

EDIT: For the lazy that don't feel like searching the *other* forum.

 

[Frankie]

They actually knew who the nick belongs to and that the owner nas nothing with them? Scary people, these Crown7 guys Do they also operate Echelon as a side job?

 

[jarvis]

"Word has it that Crown 7’s owner, Ron McDonald, actually did go over seas to make sure the production quality of their units were up to par." or "Word on the street is that when and if Crown 7 starts selling e-juice, they may start using Johnson’s creek as their e-liquid manufacturer." and "Crown7 does not currently sell e-liquid or blank carts. However, this may be changing. Word on the street is they may start carrying e-liquid very soon."


Are you sure you're not affiliated with crown7? Sounds like you have lots of inside info, not to mention this whole post sounds like a carefully written sales pitch and judging from their methods of fake review advertising in the past, it looks like they might be back at it.

 

[Belowme]

Thank you Steve for setting that straight,

I just happened to talk to the Crown7 Support people and talked a lil about that. Like I said it was according to them. You do have good, solid Evidence.

Oh well,

Anyways, I tried dripping onto the Atomizer, it did make a VERY BIG difference, a lot more vapor.

**BECAREFUL*** because I noticed when I unscrewed the battery that it was a little wet so a little juice seeped through, I don't know what will happen if it gets in to the battery, can't be good...

 

[Belowme]

Ok and to SET THINGS STRAIGHT.

I know nobody has yet, but please do not accuse me of working for Crown7 as I have said many good things about them also.

I have done business with Steve not too long ago and I do indeed live in NYC. so I'm no where near arizona, I am not part of the "conspiracy."

Also, Crown7 was the first e-cig I ever purchased so I guess that's why I like it.

Kind of like your very first car type of thing.

 

[Katoo]

"Word has it that Crown 7’s owner, Ron McDonald, actually did go over seas to make sure the production quality of their units were up to par." or "Word on the street is that when and if Crown 7 starts selling e-juice, they may start using Johnson’s creek as their e-liquid manufacturer." and "Crown7 does not currently sell e-liquid or blank carts. However, this may be changing. Word on the street is they may start carrying e-liquid very soon."


Are you sure you're not affiliated with crown7? Sounds like you have lots of inside info, not to mention this whole post sounds like a carefully written sales pitch and judging from their methods of fake review advertising in the past, it looks like they might be back at it.

Maybe he lives at 7 Crown Street.

 

[scrubadub]

That would make sense. There definitely seems to be more of a buzz about Crown7 down his street than mine. All my neighbours seem to talk about at the moment is when I'm going to trim the hedge.

 

[macross444]

That would make sense. There definitely seems to be more of a buzz about Crown7 down his street than mine. All my neighbours seem to talk about at the moment is when I'm going to trim the hedge.

Wow! I step away from the computer for a few hours and this thread turns into some 1950’s communist spy witch hunt! Ha, just kidding guys…no, not so funny..ehm

Let me clear the air here. Hopefully this will help all the people (from Frankie to scrubadub and everyone) understand where I’m coming from. In fact, I’ll number it off:

1) Like the gentleman with the Handle “Belowme” I am in no way affiliated with Crown 7. The Crown7 Hydro is my first and ONLY e-cig I have ever had. I think I might also have that “first car” sort of feeling with it too. As I mentioned in my previous posts I have only been at this for about 2 months. I have always been leery of buying anything off the internet and when I saw the good product and service reviews of an American based company I thought it was the way to go. I did my homework by checking out this site, the USA and others before buying the unit.
2) I am not part of any Crown 7 conspiracy. At all. Not even a little. I live in CA. I’m just regular guy, not a “secret salesman”. I’m a fan and I thought I would share. I saw that many who have posted positive reviews on the internet have been quickly called spies in the past so I made sure to tell everyone off the bat that I am not some undercover reseller.
3) On a related note, I am really surprised that the “poprocks” guy has like 4 screen names for the same site. Why would anyone do that? I’m not trying sound nieve, I would just be really surprised if the honest people I had been in email contact with at Crown 7 where really using a simple internet forum to plot any sort of major “wag the dog” campaign. Not impossible but unlikely. Regardless, it seems that Cashmere did uncover something very strange. Good job.
4) My “Word on the Street” remarks: THIS IS THE BIG ONE. In my previous post I mentioned that I have emailed support@crown7.com with the Silliest of questions. One was “will you ever sell e-juice” They said no, BUT they said that they may in future. I poked a little more and they went on to let me know that they do have some e-juice made for them by Johnsons creek for crown devices with crown 7 labeling. Their responding email made is sound like something that could happen soon but was not definite. THIS IS WHY I WAS VAGUE AND USED “WORD ON THE STREET”. It does not sound like a for sure thing yet. The email almost made it sound like there was some very small level of confidentiality about it. Now I regret mentioning the e-juice/word on the street bit at all. I just wouldn’t want paint crown 7 into a corner of expectations based on something that is only a maybe. All they ever did was give me decent service. If Crown7 is reading this, please forgive me for spilling any trade secrets. I just don’t want people thinking I or Crown7 have some under handed agenda. Oh, and as far as the “Crown7 executive traveling overseas to look for quality” bit; That is advertised on their website. I didn’t portray that one as fact either because; I don’t live with the man. Guys, I’m honest dude who is apparently incredibly bad with being suddle.
5) Belowme: I very rarely get the fluid in my mouth with the prefilled ones but if I ever put in more than drops max into refilling a cart, I also seem to get the fluid in the mouth. This one of the reasons I emailed them about blank carts (which I wish they carried). I will try using a syringe if that seems to working better. I appreciate the info.

If you actually read everything. Thanks. I hope that answers some curiosities.

 

[Frankie]

You are using highly insider language, Macross. You talk about standard use, batt life, filling, dripping-friendly atomizers that last for more than 2 months, amazing flavour, throat hit, abusing atomizer...
This is talk of a seasoned user who went through quite a few devices before settling for the one he likes most. But you never mention the other devices. You hint comparisons withour naming, without really comparing, which is typical for a paid commercial, not for a forum talk. Sorry, but I sort of cannot believe this is not advertisement. Because it definitely looks like one.

 

[scrubadub]

Ok I'll give you the benefit of the doubt Mr. Smoke but your mini essays do read like something an SEO consultant would have written and word on the street is someone at Crown 7 likes to spam forums.

 

[macross444]

Ok I'll give you the benefit of the doubt Mr. Smoke but your mini essays do read like something an SEO consultant would have written and word on the street is someone at Crown 7 likes to spam forums.

I’ll break this into two quick responses:

Frankie:
As I mentioned in the previous posts, I did my homework before purchasing my hydro. And as I said, my hydro really is the only e-cig I have ever owned. If I sound like “seasond user” who knows a lot of e-cig terminology it only comes down to one thing; A healthy internet addiction. Everything I know about e-cigs, atomizers, dripping, use and so on, I learned by viewing posts in forums by people just like yourself. I also saw a lot good stuff on you tube in 2 weeks leading up to when I actually purchased the unit. Besides my friend, you’ll have to concede that e-cigs are not rocket s science. It’s not the most complex thing in the world. One of the reasons I was so eager and gushing to make my first post thread a “pro and con review” on this site (and the USA one), was to let others know the same info I would have liked know when I started getting into this who e-cig thing.
As for the comparison thing. Perhaps my initial reply to your earlier post did not cover this well enough. I can’t compare the hydro to your minifogger first hand because I have never owned one. The hydro is only one I have ever had. I noticed on series of earlier threads that you had reliability problems with the minifogger. And I let you know that I haven’t had said problems. I could only conclude that was your concern based on your experience. That is all. No hinting. No advertisements. I’m no salesman, I’m just trying to contribute. Does this help satisfy your sceptisism pal?

Scrubadub:
Thank you. Simple ‘benefit of the doubt” is all I was looking for. I work for a Univeristy and writing longer than needed memo’s is something I’m known for. Comparing my writning’ to an SEO’s is something that I’ll take as a complement. Moving forward I will avoid using vague euphemisms, as I am very poor at it. The last thing I want to be considered as is a spammer. I hope my rambling has been of assistance to someone.
What do say guys; group hug?

Happy new year,
Macross444 (also known as Mr. Smoke on the US site)
Ps. Who took the mr. Smoke name on this site? I couldn’t use that name when I created an account. Just curious.

Vape on!

 

[jackolantern]

Now, if you take a gander over to the USA Forum (www.e-cigforum.com),

Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but is that a US version of this forum? I didn't even know I was on a Euro version if it is. I tried to go there to check it out, but it timed out for some reason.

 

[spike]

Call me an old cynic, but..........