My DIY - DSE901 - MAGNUM POWER

[nicowolf]

im sorry what i ment was can the magnum be hooked up to the dse901 wall charger or do you have to take the batterys out and charge them in the charger spacifically ment for the batterys..
if the dse901 can charge it then what i can do is extend the stem maybe 1 inch out of the magnum im building so that is can just screw it in.. if not i will keep the *connection short like the original..

**the connection im referring to is the old battery side connection

I am sure there is a way, but I have not seen it yet. To my knowledge everyone is removing the batteries from the flashlight housing and charging them on a charger meant for CR2 batteries (they do much better with a slow charge and that even means a little slower than most lithium battery chargers do.) Maybe you could be the first to do that mod. It does seem a waste to have all these 901 chargers floating around and I no longer use them.

 

[Tomahawkusa]

Thanks i just finished my first one and it works awesome. Now thats some serious vapor! You were right about the wiring Pos Led is in parallel with atomizer. THANKS

Tobacco free since April 2008 and im not fooling

 

[Tomahawkusa]

The charger will not work because the 2 batteries are in series putting out 5 -6 volts and the standard charger does not put out that kind of juice.

 

[potter_s]

thats kind of but was not sure.. the other idea i had was a usb prot on the bottom or the side, of course thats assuming there is enough room and if i can wire it oposite of the kill switch which in this case i would not want my batterys and usb going at the same timeodviously that would send 6 volts back into my computer usb slot from the batteries.. just a thought..

btw the video madog done was good enough for me to copy his design..not too technically difficult

 

[breakfastchef]

Anyone have an atomizer burn out on a Magnum?

I just burned out my second atomizer on my 801 Magnum mod. This atomizer probably had a couple of weeks of use on regular penstyle battereis and a USB passthrough. It had been cleaned twice during that time.

As I am waiting for my DealExtreme order, I bought two CR2's at the grocery store, popped them in the Magnum, and it worked well all day long until the battery output finally crapped out. Took the atomizer from the Magnum and put on a battery and the atomizer was DEAD. Took out the multimeter, and, sure enough, there is no continuituy between + and -. This same thing happened last week with my other 801 Magnum. I am guessing that I am overheating the coil, too often, causing the problem. If this happens again, I may have to partially castrate the Magnum and use only one battery.

 

[imeothanasis]

The magnum style wants a drop or two direct to the atomizer because it gives high temeratures. This way you keep it cool and you have big smoke and very nice throat kick. Of course the catridge must be not dry

 

[kinabaloo]

breakfastchef - I'd love to hear what exactly happened if you can do an autopsy and open it up. Check if wire looks burned out, where broken, if at all, size of gunk and other observations. Such info will help determine eventually how to minimise the chances of atty death.

 

[secondson2929]

I have not had good luck with 801s and 6 volts. I don't think the atomizer stays wet enough.

 

[D_Struct]

I think it's really important to keep the atomizer wet.

Like Imeo stated, the heat is above and beyond what these things are designed for, and you cook off the liquid really quick.

I'm constantly dripping with my magnum, and I'm going on 3 weeks with my current atomizer. To have this type of output, 3 weeks is great for an atomizer to last.

 

[breakfastchef]

breakfastchef - I'd love to hear what exactly happened if you can do an autopsy and open it up. Check if wire looks burned out, where broken, if at all, size of gunk and other observations. Such info will help determine eventually how to minimise the chances of atty death.

The atomizer coil broke a few millimeters above one solder joint in the chamber. The material inside the wire coil was still flexible, saturated with smoking juice, but jet black. The wire was in good condition and was easy to straightenscrape clean and inspect.

It appears that the coil wire is bent into a 'V' shape on each end and inserted into a blob of solder. As you can see from the photo, it looks like two bits of wire are protruding from the solder. Could I have had some arcing between the two piece of solder? I kind of doubt that as lots of other folks are doing high voltage vaping without burning out their atomizers.

 

[kinabaloo]

breakfastchef - thanks for that !

Sun / Terraphon has the theory that the wire often snaps about that location because the gunk buildup eventually pulls the coil up. Would you say that was a possibility in your case?

Or perhaps that location is likely to suffer the highest average temperatures as it is away from the solder blob and copper wire and also away from the coil (which most time is cooled by the juice (about half way between the two).

ps: did you happene to get a photo of the coil itself before rescuing the wire? How easily did the gunk peel off?

 

[breakfastchef]

kinaboloo: I did not even think to shoot a photo of the coil before I tore into it. The coil wire unfurled pretty cleanly with little build up on it. This atomizer fried in an 801 Magnum Mod. Some users recommende keeping the atomizer VERY moist due to the increase in power. I ran this atom with a cart to insure some juice was getting to the coil, yet it still failed. I don't know about the coil wire lifting as a result of gunk build up as there could be many other reasons including mechanical failure, manufacturing defect or wire defect. I have had two different penstyle atomizers from two different vendors fail in much the same way; both on my 801 Magnum mod.

 

[breakfastchef]

I posted a diagram of the wiring schematic of a Magnum I found on another thread in this forum. It did not look right to me after I posted it. Since one of my Magnums required invasive surgery this weekend, I drew my own schematic as I re-built my unit. I hope this will be useful to some of the forum members.

 

[imeothanasis]

I think it's really important to keep the atomizer wet.

Like Imeo stated, the heat is above and beyond what these things are designed for, and you cook off the liquid really quick.

I'm constantly dripping with my magnum, and I'm going on 3 weeks with my current atomizer. To have this type of output, 3 weeks is great for an atomizer to last.

Struct is right. Let the atomizer dry, take of the catridge and push the button. The atomizer lights like a lamp. If you have liquid inside then it will not happen. As you understand, 6v has no pg trace but you must take care of liquid.

 

[Tomahawkusa]

I like the wiring diagram I thought that is how it was supposed to be. I am using a mini atomizer and the smoke is incredible better than my 901

 

[potter_s]

arrears that the 901 handles the heat better than the 801.. mine will have the 901.. diagram was good btw

 

[ISAWHIM]

You can add a resistor in-line with the coil... to lower the voltage, or get a voltage regulator chip.

(If you regulate the voltage to 5v, the battery device will last longer. Since there is more power above the 5v, and when below, it will simply draw more amps in exchange for voltage balance.)

A cut-off circuit would be good too, which would stop the device from working when the battery falls below 4v. (At which point it will begin to draw dangerous levels of amps from the battery, degrading them faster than desired.)

Even better... Get four AA batteries, with a 5.5v super-cap, and that same voltage regulator. Quick charge the super-cap inside the cig... but have the battery device inside a cig-pack looking device. The battery pack will hold enough power for a few days, and the super-cap will deliver instant power needed between fast-charge dips back into the pack.

That would make it an ultra-light, and you could double-up the caps for longer use. (Though that may strain the voltage regulator, trying to fill two caps at once.)

NOTE: Super-caps can be up to 5 Farads each. They hold power like a battery, and charge and discharge like a capacitor, only slightly slower than a regular capacitor and faster than a battery. That is what those little RC cars are powered on. The cars you dock for a few seconds, and they drive for a few minutes.

 

[ISAWHIM]

You gotta make a cell-phone plug-in!

LOL...

Smoke and chat at the same time.

Dude...
Are you smoking your phone?
Does that go towards your minutes?
Internet, texting, long-distance, in-network, and vape-fix, all in one!
I need a good vape after sexting!
Perhaps cybering may now extend to cell-phones!

 

[kinabaloo]

If you want to reduce the voltage without wasting power, use a 'power diode' such as the IN4001. One will drop the voltage about 0.7v, 2 by about 1.4v. This is far superior to using a resistor and simpler than a voltage regulator.

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ps: you can't use a LED for this; either the LED will blow out or the atomizer will not heat properly depending on the LED type. Power diodes are very cheap.

 

[potter_s]

very good diagram nice design