My DIY - DSE901 - MAGNUM POWER

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spyderuk

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hey spyder use this torch instead , you know you want too hehe

DealExtreme: $15.99 Romisen RC-A8 Cree Q3-WC 200-Lumen LED Flashlight (1*CR123A) $16 usd

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Do my eyes deceive me or is that the Screwdriver body right there? 8-o
 

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Ok... that $15 flashlight looks exactly like the $160 screwdriver. Wow.. I don't even know what to say to that. It's really hard not to call Trog out on this one..

You can call him out all you want. I'm sure it's the same thing, but I (and others) have neither the time nor inclination to be tearing flashlights apart and rewiring them. Trog's time is valuable as well, so I don't feel bad compensating him. If you have the skills and time, I'm sure you can build an SD for $20. No different than any other Do It Yourself type project.
 

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I realize peoples time is valuable. If Trog can get that kind of mark up on them and people are willing to pay it, that's fine. He has the right to charge whatever he wants for his time. For those that are inclined to do their own mods, I will be posting a DIY. I have nothing personal against any supplier here but these are 100% store bought products. That's the downside of selling modded retail products, anyone who knows what they are doing can build their own and they have every right to do so. He may customize it more than it appears as well..
 
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On the same hand, I have the right to post a DIY version of it with 100% store bought products just like I did with the Husky flashlight mods and the USB mods I have posted.

I couldn't agree more... I'm just jealous you have those kinds of skills :)

Keep the good stuff coming, I just think Trog gets some undue flak just because his costs the most. It's also pretty consistently rated the best for heavy use, but that may be because he's the only one cranking out the mods in quantity.
 

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I'm not going to start cranking out these mods and selling them, and I won't be competing with Trog or anyone else. I just like tinkering with these things. As far as the Screwdriver being rated the best, I'm sure it is. Ecig batteries are no match for these flashlight mods that use 900-2500mah batteries! I know Trog actually posted something not too long ago about the SD being made from a chinese product so it's not like he's trying to hide it. I'm not even sure what all is involved in getting that particular flashlight adapted as an ecig battery - so credit to Trog for doing so and making a good product. I was surprised at the price, but again what someone charges for their time is their business. I did order the flashlight and a few batteries to play around with though...
 
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KentSP

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The Screw Driver is a lot more than just that torch, if you have a good look at the photos you'll see there is some serious modding needed to get that torch into a Screw Driver. Firstly the adapter at the front needs to be turned on a lathe and takes about an hour to make. Secondly the Screw Driver does not use the switch and back spring of the torch. The switch attached to the spring is screwed out and a custom made adapter ring is screwed in to make a 1.4" inch threaded hole to fit the (off)-on(off) switch. At the end of the day it's a case of whether it is worth your time to build it or not. My estimate to make the screw driver package yourself is that it would cost no less than US$80 assuming you don't have your own lathe and pay someone to make the pieces. Trogg's price 100 pounds is like 46% markup, hardly a rip off if you consider you can get DSE901 from the factory for around 26 US each including express shipping.
 

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Kent,
I'm sure there are a lot of things that need to be done to the casing in order for it to be converted. An hour on the lathe... I highly doubt. I have nothing against the SD and as I said earlier it looks like a great product. Whatever I come up with probably won't be perfected like the SD but I'm sure I will be able to make it work. I'm sure all I need is some time to tinker with it, and a pipe cutter.
 
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I decided a while back that I was going to make a torch into a e-cig but when I came across the SD body on DX I figured why not mod a torch that's already been done that way I can peek at all the photos for ideas. I got a friend with a lathe in another town I went to see him he made the top part for the atomizer for me out of Brass he had a piece of brass laying around that he first had to turn to the thickness of the torch body, anyways he did it for free but it took him around an hour and he'd usually charge around US15 an hour here in SA is not that expensive for labour like the UK. So i vaped it for about 2 days using the normal on off switch at the back no problem is just hard to press and you must remember to switch off. Then the 1 LIR 123A battery and a Digital fast charger from DX blew up so all i had was one battery left. I took the top of the Fast charger and joined it to a penstyle charger it worked another 2 days then the battery wouldn't take any charge. So now I am waiting for other batteries and two slow chargers from DX before I can give it another go. In the meantime I want to make a plan with the switch now I have no clue where I will find a 1/4" inch switch so I am thinking about using a surface mount switch between the casing and the isolated spring in the torch seems the only easy option but it won't look nice and will end up having two switches both which can work when the other is broken. I think it may be possible to make a very rough screw driver copy using epoxy putty to hold the atomizer connector problem is there is only on wire in the torch and the casing is the negative and to solder a second wire to aluminum is not easy not even sure is possible.
 
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Hasent really been an issue since I add a little solder to the pads that touch the case - NOT much just a little - just to freshen things up

Great video Madog, really thorough instructions. I was given a soldering iron for Xmas and one of those torches coincidentally so I might give it a try.

I have a question for you though. At one point in the video you mention the negative connection being the rim inside the case and that the torch cuts out from time to time. I've noticed this happening with mine as well. Is this still a problem with this mod? Your commentary seems to cut out as you're explaining that bit.
 

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I would like to ask, if I may: My son bought a DX flashlight which would be perfect for a first test mode when my first battery dies, but it runs on 3xAAA like this:
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It seems to me one of the big bad strong high mah batteries should be of the same size as the 3xAAA thingy, but I do not want to buy one after one just to try. Could you help me with this? Which of the big batteries has the same size?
 

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Any flashlight that uses the 3 AAA battery thingy can use the PVC pipe and dual cr2 batteries - AWESOME - Battery life and vap'in strength. One cr123 is a little to short to replace the battery pack - the Diameter is the same as cr2's so you could just use some type of metallic spacer or stretch the springs to take up the room. Yes you all heard me right a single CR123 will work instead of the 2 cr2's and you will have a big ole battery at 3.7 volts. Instead of cranking the voltage up to 6.3 as in the original magnum mod -
However i believe - IMHO - the higher voltage works much better than a unit at 3.7 volts - I am on over 2 months with the same atomizer -
With
NO CLEANING - Running at 6.3 volts
I just confirmed that to use a cr123 works
you have to use the lower pressure pvc pipe (thinner wall)
but the springs will stretch far enough to take up the space.

SO know you have to different voltage options with the same mod.




I would like to ask, if I may: My son bought a DX flashlight which would be perfect for a first test mode when my first battery dies, but it runs on 3xAAA like this:
sku_13442_5.jpg
It seems to me one of the big bad strong high mah batteries should be of the same size as the 3xAAA thingy, but I do not want to buy one after one just to try. Could you help me with this? Which of the big batteries has the same size?
 

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Just find a flashlight that uses AA and use a 14500 cell battery. The 14500 is the same size as AA and may even fit in that flashlight you posted. I ordered the Romisen silver light and a CR123A. Got a pipe cutter for it all ready to go. Soon as it gets here I'll start modding. I've already got 2 husky conversions done in 2 different sizes. The easiest flashlight to mod that I've done is the small husky that I have posted pictures of.
 
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