My doctor says nicotine clogs arteries???

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I thought I'd ask this cause she's the only one that I've heard it from before...

My primary care physician told me before quitting that nicotine does all kinds of bad things to the arteries, clogging them up with junk over time, etc...is this really true? Cause I've read a lot of good articles regarding nicotine but I've never read that one before.

Is she like seriously mistaken or is she actually right? She says overtime it creates this sticky/goo that builds in the arteries, those were basically her exact words.
 

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I had not heard that one before. I can only tell you what my doctor told me about vaping. My doctor is thrilled that I quit smoking and took up vaping. In fact he has been telling other patients about it in an effort to help them in their efforts to quit smoking. I got him interested and he has done much more research, and he is still enthusiastic about it. Because of my age and recent health problems, he has been having me take more blood tests and more scans of my arteries and since I have stopped tobacco and gone to a moderate nicotine ejuice, my arteries are clearing up from plaque and my blood work is showing great improvement. Of course, if you trust your doctor, then follow her advice.
 

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I thought I'd ask this cause she's the only one that I've heard it from before...

My primary care physician told me before quitting that nicotine does all kinds of bad things to the arteries, clogging them up with junk over time, etc...is this really true? Cause I've read a lot of good articles regarding nicotine but I've never read that one before.

Is she like seriously mistaken or is she actually right? She says overtime it creates this sticky/goo that builds in the arteries, those were basically her exact words.

I haven't heard that it clogs arteries, rather that nicotine is a vasoconstrictor, makes the arteries constrict in diameter, this increases possibility of anything in the blood stream to accumulate against any restriction that may be in the vessel. My Primary Care Physican was pleased when I switched from tobacco to vaping, . . .even more thrilled when I eliminated nicotine and most flavors. JMHO

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Guys I'm not questioning the use of e-cig's, I was just curious about why my PCP had said this to me, she's actually a "PA" and not yet a MD (under the main doctor of the office.) Maybe she is misinformed?

I know my lung doc was thrilled that I was vapin and as I've said before here she told me to "go for it!" I googled "nicotine causes arteries to clog" and really didn't get anything on it so perhaps she mis-spoke. I'll bring it up to her at my next appointment. Or maybe I misunderstood...
 

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She could be one of those all forms of nicotine intake are bad because nicotine is bad and I'll try to get you to stop by any means possible even if it means misinforming you to scare you even when I don't know all the facts about it people. Wow, that was a long one...

Honestly, I don't personally see how it could clog your arteries any more than your diet over a period of time. Unless you're a rabbit. Or vegan. Or being fed through a G- or PEG tube.

I'm no doctor, I just work for them, so the above is my opinion only.
 

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Nicotine does not cause heart disease or any type of hardening of the arteries. This has been shown by the numerous studies done on Swedish snus users. They have no more heart disease then non-snus users. Nicotine is a stimulant and the effects are much like coffee in that it temporarily increases the heart rate and blood pressure, but that is very different from heart disease. If you have an already serious heart condition then nicotine is not the best thing to do, but if you are fairly healthy it won't create any new problems.

It's the smoke that will get you not tobacco in the from of smokeless tobacco or nicotine.
 

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I am about to have back surgery... I currently have 4 dr's. All of them are thrilled about this new product I have brought them. They have started to do their own research after hearing that I smoked for 15 yrs, 2+ PAD, and went strait to vaping, cold turkey with no withdrawls. They all agree everything on the market is BS and we need a viable alternative. For about 10 weeks they have been sort of using me as a case study. First question is not "how r u feeling" its "hows the vaping going"? FWIW, I'm seeing all high end specialists.

To the OP, I have a 5th Dr who is my PC...I did not put her on the list because I'm not convinced she even has a HS diploma. I've seen too many Dr's in the past 2 yrs to remember all of them. Point is, they all have diff levels of education and opnions. I wouldnt get too worked up over the opinion of just one.
 

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Here is the caveat. Most doctors much like smokers understand that kicking the habit of smoking is tough. They know low nicotine intake is a great RISK REDUCTION. Doctors who see very little chance of patients quitting smoking are glad to see people stop smoking even if their nicotine intake is still in place through vaping because it does stop all the carcinogens that cause heart disease.

However to say nicotine is harmless is a big mistake. Too much of anything is bad be it coffee or nicotine or fatty foods. Some doctors are intelligent enough to know that long term smokers have a very limited chance of success in quitting until it literally becomes a choice of life or immediate death. In younger patience such as the OP appears to be through his avatar, he is fairly young and therefore has the potential to be a candidate for removing his addiction entirely.

This is why you get doctors who praise vaping and some who oppose it. All will agree no matter the stance that using nothing is better than using anything. You must assess your person and deicde wether vaping is something you must do or if quitting can be accomplished.
 

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Your P.A. is misinformed. There is no legitimate research that indicates nicotine causes cardio-vascular disease, including hardening of the arteries or plaque build up. None, nada, zip. If there were, the anti-nicotine zealots would be shouting it from the rafters. Nicotine is a vaso-constrictor. So is caffeine. Any vaso-constrictor can be harmful for people with existing vascular disease.

Nicotine also increases blood pressure because it is a vaso-constrictor. If you have heart or vascular disease, anything that increases your b.p. can be dangerous. That includes sex, coffee, stress, vigorous exercise and spirited debates.

The only detrimental effect of nicotine that has been reasonably proven is that it constricts blood vessels, which may or may not raise your b.p. to a degree and for a period of time that may or may not be harmful. The degree of harm this causes is dependent on your cardio-vascular health. There is also some evidence that nicotine may feed the blood supply of already existing tumors.

There is some very recent research that tentatively indicate that nicotine may affect the inner lining of the arteries in such a way that it allows increased plaque build up. This evidence is, according to the researchers, preliminary and tentative. If this is what your PA was referring to to back up her statement, she is being irresponsible. Nobody is claiming that it is definite evidence, or even strong evidence. It's certainly nothing that should be used to justify misinforming a patient.

Despite what people, vapers and non-vapers alike, would like to believe, all evidence indicates that nicotine is relatively benign and may even be beneficial in some respects, increasing alertness, memory and cognitive ability. It has shown to be useful for people with ADHD , Parkinsons and dementia. There is no evidence that it is any more harmful to otherwise healthy people than caffeine. All the evidence that indicates the contrary has been done with nicotine in conjunction with tobacco smoke, never in isolation. It's hard to believe that a P.A. is unaware of this. Perhaps she's been overly influenced by the anti-nicotine, anti-tobacco zealots. If she was a real doctor, I'd suggest you find another doctor. It just goes to show that no one is immune to propaganda.
 
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