my experiences with mixing my own juice

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lets start with why i mix my own juices. (company's not being up front about whats in there juice) i have been vaping for 1.5 years. for the first 3 months i used off the shelf juice of various brands. some were ok others gave me weird side effects like a sore throat or headache. of the brands and flavors i enjoyed picked a few and tried to track down the source materials used. i e-mailed and called company's and all i heard back as what i could find already listed on there website. not really sure why, but whatever i knew i didn't need them anyways... i decide that i would source the highest quality starter materials i could find forget the cost.

first 50 mL of juice i made (various strengths and flavors) got thrown out... because they were Awful. the next 100 mL was ok it was usable but still not great lacked flavor or had way to much flavor, at this point once every few bottles is garbage because the flavors did not work together or it has way to much VG or PG and so i just toss them out. so after throwing out about 100 mls of juice im finely starting to get the hang of it.

once i had a system down i could make a 15 ml bottle in under 3 minutes for a cost around $4 toss it in my steeping box pull out an aged bottle and go about my day. not only im i spending less cash now but i also know what i am ingesting. i have had NO side effects thus far from my own juice.

so here is how it goes and what i use. feel free to chime in with your opinion, all of us would love to hear it!
i use Totally Wicked (TW) Titanium ice for my nicotine source. yes you pay a bit more, but totally wicked has done gas chromatography testing and published the results online where everyone can look at them. i cant find any other company that is willing to show me such data. i buy my VG and PG from TW. its cheap and i just order it when i order the Titanium ice. totally wicked has some really good flavors. i also buy Lorann super strength flavors. for the Lorann flavors the ingredients are listed on the bottle and if want to know more about the flavor it self you can look it up. for example the "Artificial Strawberry" flavor is about 50 different molecules and further research could tell you what exact molecules are used and the simplest (cheapest) method for making them. most of the artificial flavors we use start out as natural or synthesized simple compounds like orange flavors for example then a chemist isolates one or more particular compounds then alters that compound(s) to create new flavors. or you can trust the FDA when its "FDA approved for use in food". (but that's a totally different thread altogether)

back on topic: making a bottle of juice. 1: flavors 2: nicotine 3: top off with PG or VG. i use PET plastic for my bottles they are cheap and less reactive than BPA plastic. i find that the bottles might be rated at something like 15 mL but if you fill them all they way up they come out to 17 mL. i recommend that when you start working with new bottles you take a syringe and just using tap water count how many mL will fit in the bottle. then do it again but this time stop when you get to the rating. this will show you visually how much 15 mL looks like in your new bottles. i have a bottle marked with sharpie stilling on my desk that way it makes for quick comparison when making bottles of juice. i also use a syringe thats made for insulin injections this way i know its pretty accurate (it does have a blunt tip for safety reasons) to measure out the flavors and nicotine. i have a wooden box i made that is bottom heavy (fishing weights) that i use as a caddy for my bottle of nicotine. its 100 mL @ 72 MG per mL that means there is 7.2 grams (enough to kill about 100 people) of nicotine im handling and i don't wanna find out how hard it is to clean up or hurt or kill my loved ones or pets. when the bottle is open its always strapped to the box (duct taped) and the box is in the middle of the table.
i start by putting the flavors into the PET bottle. i use %6-%20 total flavoring depending on what exact flavor im making. i start with the flavors because next im adding the nicotine and want to dilute the nicotine as much as i can, in case i knock the PET bottle over and spill it on myself. open the bottle of nicotine then add the appropriate amount into the PET bottle then close the bottle of nicotine. simple math will dictate how much you should use for your nicotine content. next i carefully pour my pure VG or PG into the PET bottle using small funnel i find its much to thick to go through a syringe. check it with the fill line i have labeled on an empty bottle then i snap on the dropper and screw on the child resistant cap then shake for about 10 minutes and allow it to sit in my steeping box for 7 days shaking it once a day. the steeping box is stored at 70 degrees F (along with my cigar collection) the box is also light proof.

if your not willing to throw some time and money at mixing your own juice i understand there is a plethora of juices out there ranging for fantastic to awful..
 
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of the brands and flavors i enjoyed picked a few and tried to track down the source materials used. i e-mailed and called company's and all i heard back as what i could find already listed on there website. not really sure why, but whatever i knew i didn't need them anyways

You can't fault them for not being willing to divulge such information.

first 50 mL of juice i made (various strengths and flavors) got thrown out... because they were Awful. the next 100 mL was ok it was usable but still not great lacked flavor or had way to much flavor, at this point once every few bottles is garbage because the flavors did not work together or it has way to much VG or PG and so i just toss them out. so after throwing out about 100 mls of juice im finely starting to get the hang of it.

We've all been there. It isn't fun tossing hard work down the drain, but it's for a good cause.

or you can trust the FDA when its "FDA approved for use in food". (but that's a totally different thread altogether)

Indeed.

Congratulations on your successful endeavor. Even crappy DIY is a better investment than a cigarette.
 
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