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Wade_G

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This is my first build and I am so happy. No more going to the vape shop and paying $5 for each coil. This is 24 gauge 20 wrap .8 ohm. Next I will try .5 and not thinking about going much lower. Now to figure out DIY e juice and I will be set. The best part about all this is 2 weeks and only 1 cigarette.

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Very nicely done. Here's a hint: try some 28ga wire. I like to build no less than 4 nor more than 10 wraps. When you get long coils like that, you can burn the wick in the middle with high watts because the wick dries before the juice gets in that far. Not dissing you, that's a good job, and going down to .5 will shorten the coil up. Just saying. Keep up the good work. My first wasn't anywhere near that pretty ;-)
 

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This is my first build and I am so happy. No more going to the vape shop and paying $5 for each coil. This is 24 gauge 20 wrap .8 ohm. Next I will try .5 and not thinking about going much lower. Now to figure out DIY e juice and I will be set. The best part about all this is 2 weeks and only 1 cigarette.

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Looks great but I second at a little bit shorter of coil for wicking purposes. All in all though, you did an awesome job on it.:thumb: As far as DIY goes, it really is not that hard when you get into it. You will save a lot compared to commercial juice. A little hint, start off with lower percentages of flavoring as it is easier to add flavor than it is to take out. Hope this helps. Happy Vaping!!!!:toast::vapor:
 
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Hi,
Nice Job! You most definitely have a nack for building coils. Try steamengine.org. Do you have an ohms meter? If not it is a must! You will also need some really good batteries and charger. I personally use 25ga. Kanthal A1 wire. I am not a temp control or exotic wire vaper. Oh! get backups for everything.
 

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Nice Job! You most definitely have a nack for building coils. Try steamengine.org. Do you have an ohms meter? If not it is a must! You will also need some really good batteries and charger. I personally use 25ga. Kanthal A1 wire. I am not a temp control or exotic wire vaper. Oh! get backups for everything.
Thank you for the pat on the back, I watched lots of youtube videos before this build. Yeah I got a ohm meter to build on. As for batteries the kbox 70 watt does not have removable batteries just a mini usb slot, but my wife didnt like hers (same kbox just red mine is white) so I got 2 of them with 1 always charging.
 

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This is my first build and I am so happy. No more going to the vape shop and paying $5 for each coil. This is 24 gauge 20 wrap .8 ohm. Next I will try .5 and not thinking about going much lower. Now to figure out DIY e juice and I will be set. The best part about all this is 2 weeks and only 1 cigarette.

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2utpb2t.jpg

Wow, that is very well done Wade_G, specially for a first build :thumb:

The first thought I had considering you're using 24 gauge Kanthal was that it probably would take a while to heat up and the second was that the wire wouldn't get very hot. I ran it through the Steam Engine coil wrapping calculator and got this with a 2.5mm I.D. at 20 wraps.

In the results window on the right, the heat capacity is 151 which confirmed the slow heat up time for me. I vape at around 40 watts and if I go over about 50 in HC I really notice the delay after I hit the button, specially when the coils are at room temperature. The higher your wattage the less heat up time there will be at a given HC, but even at 70 watts it's got to be noticeable.

The heat flux with your build at 70 watts is 97 which I find a bit cool, but this is totally personal preference. OTOH if you change the watts to 40 it goes down to 55 which I think would not give you as good a vape as you could have.

The Kbox 70 will go down to 0.1 ohms. I'm running a dual coil build at 0.25 ohms at 40 watts using 24 gauge Kanthal. So the same wire gauge and I.D., but only 6 wraps (less wire mass to heat up). Here it is in Steam Engine. Heat capacity is 47 and heat flux is 177. That gives me less than a second of coil heat up time when the coils are cold and I like the flavor of my juices at a HF of 177. I can turn that up to 70 watts and the HF goes up to 309 which will not burn juice so it's safe but it's getting warm. The HC stays at 47 and at 70 watts there would be almost no noticeable heat up time.

The resistance of your build has no effect on your battery amp draw in a variable wattage mod. That is controlled by the watts you set. With a VV or mech mod it's the opposite, the resistance influences the watts and the battery amp draw. As long as you don't get too close to your minimum mod resistance rating you're not pushing any safety boundaries.

Once again, kudos on a very nice build :)
 
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Coil Toy works. I prefer Steam Engine. On the Tobh, it's not a big air machine. I probably wouldn't build below about .7 on it. You can, and it won't hurt anything, but you can't get a lot more vapor out of it because it will get air limited pretty quick.
Wow, that is very well done Wade_G, specially for a first build :thumb:

The first thought I had considering you're using 24 gauge Kanthal was that it probably would take a while to heat up and the second was that the wire wouldn't get very hot. I ran it through the Steam Engine coil wrapping calculator and got this with a 2.5mm I.D. at 20 wraps.

In the results window on the right, the heat capacity is 151 which confirmed the slow heat up time for me. I vape at around 40 watts and if I go over about 50 in HC I really notice the delay after I hit the button, specially when the coils are at room temperature. The higher your wattage the less heat up time there will be at a given HC, but even at 70 watts it's got to be noticeable.

The heat flux with your build at 70 watts is 97 which I find a bit cool, but this is totally personal preference. OTOH if you change the watts to 40 it goes down to 55 which I think would not give you as good a vape as you could have.

The Kbox 70 will go down to 0.1 ohms. I'm running a dual coil build at 0.25 ohms at 40 watts using 24 gauge Kanthal. So the same wire gauge and I.D., but only 6 wraps (less wire mass to heat up). Here it is in Steam Engine. Heat capacity is 47 and heat flux is 177. That gives me less than a second of coil heat up time when the coils are cold and I like the flavor of my juices at a HF of 177. I can turn that up to 70 watts and the HF goes up to 309 which will not burn juice so it's safe but it's getting warm. The HC stays at 47 and at 70 watts there would be almost no noticeable heat up time.

The resistance of your build has no effect on your battery amp draw in a variable wattage mod. That is controlled by the watts you set. With a VV or mech mod it's the opposite, the resistance influences the watts and the battery amp draw. As long as you don't get too close to your minimum mod resistance rating you're not pushing any safety boundaries.

Once again, kudos on a very nice build :)

I will keep all this in mind. Yes I am vaping at 40 watts so the next time will do less wraps and see how that goes. I have 3 more of those to build on. Love to experiment.
 

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This is my first build and I am so happy. No more going to the vape shop and paying $5 for each coil. This is 24 gauge 20 wrap .8 ohm. Next I will try .5 and not thinking about going much lower. Now to figure out DIY e juice and I will be set. The best part about all this is 2 weeks and only 1 cigarette.

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Congrats on your first build.

I also prefer my build some where between. 78-.9 ohms. I just think tge flavor of tge Juice is better at .8 than .5. But thats me.
 
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