My First Tobacco Flavor

[Lord_Fubar]

I had read how tobacco flavors are hard to get right and that wasn't fiction. Maybe TFA flavors aren't the best choice to use, but I'd rather give up and work on flavors that I might like then to spend many dollars seeking THE tobacco flavor.

Maybe I'm being too hard on myself for my first time with a non-menthol tobacco flavor. It's steeping right now and it might improve with my last tiny tweaks.

8 ml total. 15 mg Nic, 60/40 PG/VG All TFA flavorings

American Red 6%
M-Type .5%
Red Oak 3%
Wintergreen 2%
EM 2%

My tiny tweaks were adding in the Wintergreen (it's my new "fix-all") and the Ethyl Maltol to smooth the flavor somewhat.
While this steeps, I'll drip this with other known good flavors together in hopes to find a decent tobacco flavor I would really like to share with others. Maybe steeping is all that is needed.

 

[dannyv45]

I had read how tobacco flavors are hard to get right and that wasn't fiction. Maybe TFA flavors aren't the best choice to use, but I'd rather give up and work on flavors that I might like then to spend many dollars seeking THE tobacco flavor.

Maybe I'm being too hard on myself for my first time with a non-menthol tobacco flavor. It's steeping right now and it might improve with my last tiny tweaks.

8 ml total. 15 mg Nic, 60/40 PG/VG All TFA flavorings

American Red 6%
M-Type .5%
Red Oak 3%
Wintergreen 2%
EM 2%

My tiny tweaks were adding in the Wintergreen (it's my new "fix-all") and the Ethyl Maltol to smooth the flavor somewhat.
While this steeps, I'll drip this with other known good flavors together in hopes to find a decent tobacco flavor I would really like to share with others. Maybe steeping is all that is needed.

That is a bit to much tobacco for 1 mix.

Try them seperatly at 5% ea and optionally you can add 1% sweetener to each if there to harsh. Also start the wintergreen for each at 1%. You do need to let them steep 2 - 3 weeks before the true flavor comes out. If after there steeped and there still to weak add more tobacco in 1% increments and steep another 2 days.

Also the M-type tobacco is quite strong you may want to start that at 1 - 2%.

 

[Lord_Fubar]

Thanks for the helpful hints which I shall follow. I think you may have missed the point before the 5 on the M-Type. If I remember it was 1 drop. Scary stuff.
I did start the Wintergreen at 1% before I bumped it to 2%. I'll know for sure in a few weeks.

 

[boomerdude]

Excellent advise from danny45 as usual. You may also want to ad 1 drp. of ACV ( Apple Cider Vinegar ) per 5 mls. to smooth out the mix.

 

[Lord_Fubar]

After looking at other tobacco recipes, yes the 6% is way too high. I combined that mix with a fair spiced rum mix I had made about a week ago and it seems to have improved the flavor and freed up another empty bottle.

I may have to borrow an unlit analog to remind me what tobacco smells like. It only took a bit over two months for me to forget that smell.

 

[LoveVanilla]

I'm playing with those flavors and the amts seem about right except on American Red I finding it way strong at 5%. Not sure where it should be mixed but I would say closer to 1%. 100% agree on the M-Type; hard to believe somebody recommended 8% on the TFA website