My husband's eGo exploded!

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Corley, you may never find out what really happened.
But I would like to offer a caution because your eGo popped at the switch end and not the end cap.

Be careful not to apply force to the eGo/cone/atty and work the front end loose. You probably didn't, just a word of caution.
Still would have gone pop, but the cap end is the desired weak end.
 

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Couple of things here, first off almost every vendor in China calls there Battery an Ego accept for the Riva and a few others that are a bit different in there connections, there are also a few different manufacturers of these type of batteries. The VV Charger that you are referring to ( 450mA eGo USB charger and can not be fully charged by Joye eGo USB charger ) is made especially for these VV Batts, . So there for I believe you where in fact using the wrong charger for these VV batteries by using your regular ego charger from your original purchase.

Could you please look at the charger you do have an tell us Exactly what it says on the back of it ? like is it a " Desan " brand name DCV5V 500mAh output DC4.2V 420mAh or is it a no name brand that just says USB Charger DC5V 500mA output DC 4.2V 420mAh ? Do they both have the CE with a house and a square on them ? please describe the charger you have Now, I dont think it is the correct one for your VV Batts and this very well could be your issue at hand.

The charger says joyetech on the front with the light, and on the back it reads:
eGo USB charger
input DC 5V 500mA
output DC 4.2v 420mA
CE (house) (double squares).

The VV is not what blew up, by the way.
 

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Just like the charger on the bottom here. I borrowed this from another thread here, but all of the info on the charger is the same.

http://i42.tinypic.com/awcjkg.jpg

Looks just like mine with 2 exceptions, where that one says "USB Charger" mine says "eGo USB Charger" and the screws on that one appear to be a decent bit larger than the ones on mine. I am not saying thats right or wrong, just an observation.

EDIT: Just saw your reply, the text and symbols sound identical to mine except mine has the vendor logo I purchased it from instead of Joyetech.
 
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I think this is a separate issue. She found her cartos to kill her batteries and didn't you say you charged them in yours also? It sounds like the charger was not compatible with the battery you used. Also ego-t logo can be a genuine joye battery. Not all of them say joye on it.


Sorry if my replies sound harsh they are not supposed to be. I am not use to typing on my phone, and wanted to make sure that the compatible charger was not overlooked. When I started vaping I always purchased starter kits when I purchased a different type of battery for safety. I had a 510 then purchased a 510-t and they both used different chargers. It's similar concept to ego and egoT and the vv if I'm not mistaken is not made by joye

2 of the batteries that quit working after a month were charged on my charger. 1 was charged on his charger. You are correct. We are fairly certain there was 1 cartomizer that we tried on all 3 batteries that was the culprit. Of course, after 3 batteries died, we finally came to that conclusion and trashed the carto.

I will add this. I purchased 3 batteries in 900 mAh, which included the battery that exploded. 2 were red and one was purple. That was the only thing I changed on that order, and I ordered them from the same link, same site, same date, time, etc. The purple one has the joye name on it, and the end cap has the logo. The 2 red ones do not. Not sure if there's any significance to this, but wanted to add it in there.
 
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I am terribly sorry for your woes and take comfort that no one was hurt and that the damage was kept to a minimum. I do not want to sound conceited here however several key elements in this discussion have been missed.

Joyetech electronic cigarette Tank System Changeable System eGo-C eGo-T 510-T e-Liquid this is what Joyetech sells, if it is not listed on their site, it is a clone a knock off, pure and simple.

Joytech does not sell a 600mAh battery - they sell 650mAh batteries. If it was a typo then fine if not, I have never heard of a 600mAh eGo battery in the 2 yrs that I have been using the product.

One of the reason Joyetech paid there vendors to sell off (sale) all non-branded JoyE product last fall was to clear their reputation which was/has been tainted by the eGo brand. BTW FC Tornado is a Joyetech product but the Riva and Kgo are not. I was offered and eGoC kit (unboxed for $5.10 minus chargers) <--- this is a bogus product as the eGo C wholesales for far more than that. If it is too good to be true, then it is.

If I am not mistaken Joytech batteries are charged at the factory to 85% and are ready to go out of the box. The kits come complete with a DC input 5V 500 mA charger with an output of DC4.2V 420mA this charger is to be used with the 650mAh batteries whilst the 450mA is designed for the 900 and 1000mAh batteries. Any respectable vendor will have / should have this information posted on their site.

There has been a couple of incidents where un-corded chargers were used to charge batteries with similar results of the OP. Their outputs are 5V 420mA. As can be seen, the specs clearly indicate the battery is going to go BOOM on the fist charge, and they have.

Just because it says eGoT on the battery, it doesn't mean it is a Joyetech battery, hence why the massive sale of unbranded product. My first two eGo kits saw me through 14 months for 2 time batts, 15 months for 1 x batt, and one that failed after 6 months. To me that is an excellent track record. BTW I never vaped LRs or DCs on them. Yes many folks claim they have been doing yadi yadi yada. The Mofset in the batts is what goes, once it goes the battery is unusable. Same thing happens when a carto or addy causes a dead short, it fries the Mofset, and battery no longer works. LRs were designed to be used on LiMn (IMR) batteries of 420mAh or better, or a LI Ion battery with similar specs to the IMR. Does the avg individual know that an eGo batt spikes to 8.6V on it's first duty cycle?

IMO abusing your batteries using LRs or DCs where one is not supposed to, creates internal resistance in the battery, or what is known as rock content (depleted material unable to further accept a charge) This internal resistance grows exponentially with time, to a point where a battery simply quits working or in some cases may actual fail with prejudice (boom). Fast charging a battery in this state (eGo charger 420mA) can result in catastrophic failure of the battery as too much current is being delivered. Should the PCB on the battery fail, you are basically charging an unprotected battery.

I cannot re-iterate enough that folks need to keep track of their charging times, and usage times - both will decrease over time. Initially it should not take 2.5hrs to charge an eGo battery, maybe, just maybe 1/2hr tops (brand new, never used batt). As internal resistance (as the battery normally depletes) charging current is decreased to meet the demands of the battery, and your batteries take longer to charge (initially). As internal resistance increases and hence less material capable of accepting a charge, charging times will shorten. This is the sign you need to be looking for new batteries.

We are quick to blame the Chinese for our failures and rightfully so, OTOH a lot of incidents could have been prevented IMMHO and can be pointed to user error, intentional or otherwise. The latter is not uncommon when newbies accept the advice from another newbie. This si the driver's manual I invite eryone to read it Basic to Advanced Battery Information from Battery University

In closing, several vendors will be stocking LiPO charging sacks. These will protect your home and you in the event of a catastrophic failure. OTOH it is up to each and everyone of us to learn how to use these cells responsibly.

To the OP once again I am glad nothing further happened and as many have stated we believe the charger to be the culprit here. Just because it worked (or may not have actually) with other batts does not mean it can with all. Always use the charger that came with the kit, do not interchange. Some chargers and batteries have their poles interchanged +/- charging normal batteries with standard poles is asking for an accident to happen.

Did I sound like a Joyetech fanboy? Yup! was it intentional? Nope! But I only buy quality product because it has served me well in the past. BTW eGoT LCD, both batts failed withint 6 months, one was four. I don't believe it to be user error with my track record - just a sub-quality product.

Again, I am no expert on these batteries or any other for that matter. Yes 600 was a typo and should have read 650. There was no indication on the website I ordered from that the charger for my 650 mAh would not work for these 900 mAh. They were listed as Joye, and I really thought nothing else of it. Of course I do now, but how would the average person, like me, know that a different charger should be used? This was not an abused battery, it was a brand new battery...I'm really quite lost in all of this now.
 

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I'm really quite lost in all of this now.

I'm not surprised with all the contradicting that has been going on in your thread. Please PM Rolygate or if he isn't accepting PM's then PM Oldsoldier about this problem. It will get back to Rolygate and he is better informed on battery matters than anybody here. Everyone is just trying to help but can sometimes confuse the issue.
 

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On the 2a usb power supply, one I've used for 18 months is called the iq dual 2a usb power supply. It is just under $10, from walmart online. It can output a total of 2a, and has two usb connectors, fine if you have two ego type chargers.I've used them to run passthroughs, pv chargers, and charge phones.
 

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You had 3 batteries fail- correct? I wonder if attempting to charge a failed battery caused the charger to become defective and lose it's shut-off feature? Just an idea- maybe someone more knowledgeable will comment. I'm glad it wasn't worse for you. Looks like you purchased genuine Joye products all the way[Edit: at least you thought so?]. Cheers.
 
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A few things:

It seems clear now that a charger which is proper and correct for Joye eGo batteries was used in this instance. The 4.2v output is critical here, and in general, people would do well to commit this rating to memory...and to be aware that there ARE chargers in existence (which are made to be used with non-Joye products) which DO have higher output voltages which WILL fit Joye eGo batts but which should NEVER be used with Joye eGo batts because the higher voltage WILL make the Joye eGo batts explode. Kinda a mouthful but this fact really needs to enter the realm of common knowledge. There is a misconception that everyhing with eGo threading is interchangeable, which is absolutely not true.

That said, it does not appear that a charger with too high a voltage rating was used in this case. Other possibilities are that the charger failed, the battery was genuine Joye and still failed, or the battery was not Joye and either failed, or was not of a spec that was safe to use with this charger. The vendor will hopefully respond soon with more info on the batt specifically, which will get us closer to an answer. I don't know if all genuine Joye batts have the Joye logo or not, if anyone knows for certain whether they do or don't, it would indeed be helpful info to have. I actually emailed Joye to ask this question but have not recieved a reply yet.

Re AC wall adapter amperage: i think the confusion stems from the fact that a Joye eGo passthrough needs higher amperage in order to keep up with being charged and used simultaneously...a standard Joye 420mA charger will not "keep up" in this application, and the passthrough battery will eventually die (note* 420mA will charge a passthrough batt, however, if it's not in use at the same time as charging). Many vendors sell AC wall adapters with higher amperage output which will allow the passthrough to be used while charging. As many of these adapters are 2A, this rating is sometimes mistaken to be necessary for eGo charging...actually, 1A is sufficient for Joye eGo passthrough battery usage, and of course 420mA is sufficient to charge non-passthrough Joye eGo batts.

Re charge time for brand-new batts: not a reliable indicator of anything. Li-ion batts discharge significantly over time even if not used, therefore the actual charge in a particular unit will vary, depending on the amount of time between leaving the factory, and when it is first used.

Lastly (apologies OP, i meant to mention in the previous post) to answer the question in the first post; yes there are alternatives to Li-ion-based vaping setups, one i know of which is currently available (if it didn't sell out yet again :D) is the 5v Wow sold by Clouds of Vapor...it uses NiMh batteries. You'll need to get a charger and batts for it as well, but even so, the total price to "make the switch" is very reasonable. Hopefully we'll see much more of this type of product in the near future.
 
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1a is not sufficient for any true passthrough, the simple ones that just pass the usb 5v through to the connector. Even a 2a usb supply is only suitable for down to 2.5 ohms on the simple pass through.


Right... I was referring to Joye's eGo passthrough batts aka Joye eGo USB batts...a true passthrough does not employ a battery and thus doesn't require the charging which I described. Thanks for making that clarifying point.
 

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I can tell u right away that these are fakes, joyetech eGo only come in 650mah and 1000mah, not 900mah or 1100mah batteries, another way to tell is to meter them with a multi meter, joyetech ego batts should meter at 3.3- 3.4v other egos will meter at 3.7v or higher

Interesting data point. I just checked Joye's website because I could have sworn they made a 900mah but here is what I see:

eGo - 900mah model available (note: eGo not Ego-T)
eGo-T - 900mah listed on products but when you click on it, the info is for the 900mah USB passthrough. If you click on the 1000mah version there is a size comparison chart showing a 900mah eGo-T non USB passthrough.
eGo-C - 900mah model available

Now going to the eGo-T pdf manual, there is a 900mah version listed.

I am confused now and not sure what to make of this. I know my vendor (which has stated to me on numerous occasions they are legit Joye) only sells the 650mah and 1000mah versions, while their 900mah battery is clearly labeled as a SmokTech.

EDIT: Crappy typing, incomplete statement
 
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Hi Corley. I'm sorry that happened to you. I'd suspect you have had a bad charger that has been destroying your batteries all along. Not all vendors sell the genuine brands they claim. The chargers that come with smaller batteries are....well cheap. many have success with them, but there can be duds too. If you decide to go the way of a mod, do your homework. There are many quality vendors who sell american made mods but you really need to use quality batteries, have a volt meter, and a good charger (not to be left unattended). Sounds like you have the respect for batteries down huh? Don't give up. Try purchasing from a vendor like Cignots, etc. (if you want to stay with an ego type)

I second a vendor like Cignot. That is where I get all my ego batts.

To the OP, just as an FYI, the battery chargers for these I have found to be SUPER flimsy, and it doesn't take long before the internal "guts" so to speak spill out of them. It is not unlikely that both chargers you used were getting near their "end". I change my chargers very often for this reason. Not sure if that is the case, but just an FYI about how flimsy the chargers are (yes, even the ones that come with genuine Joye), both the USB and regular.
 
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