My husband's eGo exploded!

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Corley

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I have to wonder if those VVs are the source of this issue. Were they failing in such a matter that compromised the eGo charger somehow? Since its out in the open, notice on the vendor website how it states that it recommends the 450mah charger "that came bundled" as the 420mah charger "can't charge the battery completely". As much as I was able to internet detective that one, they appear to be manufactured by a company named Tobeco.

We didn't have the VV when the first 3 failed.
 

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I use my own home-grown mods, but my wife has been using the 1000mAh eGos for almost two years now. I have similar reliability problems with them. I usually have to replace the whole set every 4 to 6 months because they just wear out so fast. It doesn't take long for them to get where they don't run very long on a charge. I've had plenty of failures with them, but nothing involving fire as of yet. I have little faith in this product, but have yet to find something my wife likes better so I just keep replacing them.

Someone mentioned how Chinese products have gone down the hill. I would say that Chinese products were never up the hill in the first place. Their products have always been of poor quality with horrible track records in safety. The Joye products are no exception in my opinion.

One thing that really bothers me about the eGos (or any mass produced Chinese e-cig) is they have no venting which is like the number one basic safety feature. The scenario that played out for Corley is the exact thing I've been concerned about since day one.

I charge my eGos on 5 slot charger in the most fire safe area of the house. I don't leave them on the charger when they are done charging. My main concern has always been with Corley's scenario exactly, taking off like a rocket from the charger in a trail of flaming battery shrapnel. That seems to be a typical failure scenario for these e-cigs. I've heard two accounts personally of the same thing happening to others, one with an eGo and another with a 510 knockoff. This makes the third one.

I hope to find something my wife likes better than the eGo and quit using them or any mass produced Chinese e-cig for that matter. They're just too hazardous in my opinion. If they had proper venting, I would not be nearly as concerned about it.
 

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OK, good data point. Did you have the VV when the battery when nuclear? Forgive me if I am asking questions you already answered, there is a lot of info going back and forth on this thread.

Yes, we had the VV for about 4 days at that point, so at most had charged them twice on that charger before explosion of the 900 mAh battery.
 

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There's no need to be so rude and aggressive for my leaving out part of my thinking in my post which I have now corrected. Chill out man. And in the future, please don't tell me what to say. Period. End of conversation.

Sorry if I came off as rude.
I don't think I was rude or aggressive in my initial response, but I'll admit the tone of your response to it did tick me off a bit. This is an important issue.
Thanks for being responsible and editing your post.

That said, I will call you, or anyone else, out if they post unequivocally false information.
I have had it done to me and it's what I welcome anyone, including you, to do.
So feel free to correct any indisputably false information I post.
I can take it and I promise I won't cop an attitude.
I appreciate and learn from it and that's why we're all here, isn't it.
 

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Not sure if he still has the mosfets or not. I will ask.

As for the carto...Ohms is not listed on the site, so I don't know. Here's where we got them, and a link to the product. We had used a pack of them before and they worked fine. This one was the first one used out of our second box.

Clear eGo Cartomizer

Thanks for the info. Someone on this thread probably uses these.... and has a multi-meter. Anyone know the ohms (still just curious)? Not saying that's the cause or anything.
 

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I use my own home-grown mods, but my wife has been using the 1000mAh eGos for almost two years now. I have similar reliability problems with them. I usually have to replace the whole set every 4 to 6 months because they just wear out so fast. It doesn't take long for them to get where they don't run very long on a charge. I've had plenty of failures with them, but nothing involving fire as of yet. I have little faith in this product, but have yet to find something my wife likes better so I just keep replacing them.

Someone mentioned how Chinese products have gone down the hill. I would say that Chinese products were never up the hill in the first place. Their products have always been of poor quality with horrible track records in safety. The Joye products are no exception in my opinion.

One thing that really bothers me about the eGos (or any mass produced Chinese e-cig) is they have no venting which is like the number one basic safety feature. The scenario that played out for Corley is the exact thing I've been concerned about since day one.

I charge my eGos on 5 slot charger in the most fire safe area of the house. I don't leave them on the charger when they are done charging. My main concern has always been with Corley's scenario exactly, taking off like a rocket from the charger in a trail of flaming battery shrapnel. That seems to be a typical failure scenario for these e-cigs. I've heard two accounts personally of the same thing happening to others, one with an eGo and another with a 510 knockoff. This makes the third one.

I hope to find something my wife likes better than the eGo and quit using them or any mass produced Chinese e-cig for that matter. They're just too hazardous in my opinion. If they had proper venting, I would not be nearly as concerned about it.

The lifespans of eGo's is probably the one main reason I skipped that step in the typical analog lookalike to mod progression. But are they sealed that well? I keep reading posts about people shorting out batteries when juice gets in the connector. Any chance that whatever void exists around the connector is, or at least would act, as a vent? I know that's not exactly the ideal place for a vent, but it's probably better than nothing.

From Corley's description of all the hissing it sounds like her battery DID vent. Whether or not it had vents was not really germane to the fact of it combusting. A vented battery won't build up gasses to the point that you end up with a fragmentation bomb, but vents don't prevent thermal runaway.

I have to disagree slightly about Chinese manufacturing. I have some experience in that realm and I have dealt with Chinese manufacturers, albeit not in the last 5 years or so. IME, the capability of the Chinese to manufacture quality stuff is better than it's ever been. I saw it improve a lot between about 1990 and 2000. That's not to say they always use that capability. But they have been quick to adopt many of the American and, especially, European manufacturing processes that were not available to them years ago. As their economy grows, they are less limited to the obsolete processes and equipment they used in the past.

What I experienced regarding poor quality was as much the fault of American corporate bean-counters as Chinese manufacturers. Production moves to China for one reason, it's cheaper. Along with cheap wages, specifications were degraded, engineering was given short shrift in favor of cost cutting. A lot of shoddy stuff coming from China was built precisely to American specifications. The Chinese manufacturers didn't quibble when an American company demanded that a formerly good product was transformed into a piece of junk when its production was moved to China. If a company provided a top-notch design specifications, they were capable of it, but it would cost more and American corporations would have none of that. In that respect, Chinese manufacturers get a bad rap. Maybe they could have avoided it if they just refused to make junk at the demand of American corps., but that's asking a lot. If you give them good specifications and a reasonable production schedule, they can do it. If you give them cheapened specs. and order them to produce a million units in a month, they'll do that too and they won't argue with you about it. But you'll get the junk you asked for.

So now, we have Chinese manufacturers mimicking a level of quality that American manufacturers taught them is acceptable for a mass market product at a WalMart price. Heck, they think, we built this junk for some American corporation and it sold. Why build it any better just because we're a Chinese company? I believe that reflects their thinking.

I experienced the same phenomenon with Russian and other former Soviet Bloc manufacturers. In fact, they're worse. The Chinese had a head start on them because of all the outsourcing from America, which paled in comparison to the level of European outsourcing to Russia, for example. But if you want to see some shoddy products, try something made in one of those countries.
 
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I know this won't help, because the damage is already done.. but I don't use a charger my computer's USB port, or a wall plug. Instead, I use a powered USB 2.0 hub, and don't plug it into my computer. I only use it to charge things (cell phone, Rivas, game controllers, etc).

I am not sure if it is any safer, but I feel safer using it.
 
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Since I did not see this mentioned in the thread, but it is posted on the vendor;s site - did anyone notice this statement...

Note:Joye eGo Mega Powered USB Charger is necessary for this battery!

That is not the same charger that is sold with the 650mah kit...

I got an answer from the vendor. I asked if the mega charger mentioned in the battery description is the same as what comes with a normal ego 650 mah kit and if you can use the same charger for the 650, 900 and 1000 mah batteries?

their answer was "yes"
 

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I know this won't help, because the damage is already done.. but I don't use a charger my computer's USB port, or a wall plug. Instead, I use a powered USB 2.0 hub, and don't plug it into my computer. I only use it to charge things (cell phone, Rivas, game controllers, etc).

I am not sure if it is any safer, but I feel safer using it.

We have one. We haven't used it with our eGo batts though.
 

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I got an answer from the vendor. I asked if the mega charger mentioned in the battery description is the same as what comes with a normal ego 650 mah kit and if you can use the same charger for the 650, 900 and 1000 mah batteries?

their answer was "yes"

Well, I guess that clears that up. :) I had the right charger...
 

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This is the best place i have found to buy charging bags so far. They are on sale right now. so don't go around hoping your taking all the necessary precautions charging your batteries make sure, 10-20 bucks is alot cheaper than loosing something you value dearly

E-Cigarettes and Personal Vapourizers Store
 

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I know this won't help, because the damage is already done.. but I don't use a charger my computer's USB port, or a wall plug. Instead, I use a powered USB 2.0 hub, and don't plug it into my computer. I only use it to charge things (cell phone, Rivas, game controllers, etc).

I am not sure if it is any safer, but I feel safer using it.

Yeah, it's safer. they take the load off your computer's USB ports since they don't draw much, if any, current from your computer even when they're attached. If it's rated high enough, you could even use it for a passthrough without worrying about frying your motherboard. I use one to charge stuff all the time, but it is also connected to my computer and external drives, etc. Mine has 7 ports and it's filled all the time. I never have had a bit of trouble with it.
 

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Thanks, I have some low quality images on my cell phone...just the first thing I did...but I plan on uploading some that I took with my DSLR tonight, and I will add them to a post here. I'm sure I will have to resize them, as they are huge files typically, but I do know a little about that. :) I really appreciate the offer.

Looking forward to seeing them. It was really simple to figure out what happened with the last one by looking at the actual burned devices. Sucks this has been happening all of a sudden lately. It's got to be related to the tons of copies being made. More spam than ever lately selling knockoff $5 "joye" kits from varying manufacturers. Don't mix and match is the best bet for now.
 

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Looking forward to seeing them. It was really simple to figure out what happened with the last one by looking at the actual burned devices. Sucks this has been happening all of a sudden lately. It's got to be related to the tons of copies being made. More spam than ever lately selling knockoff $5 "joye" kits from varying manufacturers. Don't mix and match is the best bet for now.

Vendor verified that everything I have ordered aside from 2 VV were genuine Joyetech.

Pics in next post...if I can do it correctly!
 

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To see all the pics of the battery and charger, just go to this link: http://photobucket.com/CorleyeGo

connector.jpg

connecor2.jpg

batt.jpg

batt2.jpg
 

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Can you take a picture of the 510 connnector side of the ego top part? I'm trying to see if there's anything obviously shorted together at the connector. And I know they would be huge, but full-size pics of the close-ups of both connectors might help. There doesn't appear to be a short on the charger connector, but the pic is pretty small, both clicked-on here and at on photobucket. Thanks.

 
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