My Letter to the President

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Nokosa

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Today, Tuesday, September 22, 2009, at 8:20 AM EST, I sent a letter to President Obama on the topic of Electronic Cigarettes. Here is what I wrote:
I write to you today as not only a citizen of the United States of America, but as a long time adult smoker of FDA approved tobacco cigarettes. Recently I have been educated on what is known as the Electronic Cigarette, a much more safe tobacco smoking alternative. During my research of this product I have come across hundreds, if not thousands, of Americans that have started using these products with great success. They have been able to quit smoking tobacco cigarettes, and in turn have been able to enjoy their electronic cigarettes without most of the concerns. Those concerns I will address step by step that you may get a much broader idea of the benefits of electronic cigarettes, compared to traditional tobacco cigarettes.

Concerns:

1.) Second hand smoke.

- With Electronic Cigarettes there is no second hand smoke. As a matter of fact, there is no smoke at all. Only vapor. A vapor consisting of nearly 20 ingredients, all of which have been approved by the FDA, including nicotine. With electronic cigarettes the smoker does not risk polluting the air, subjecting their children, loved ones, and strangers on the streets, to the second hand smoke emitted by tobacco cigarettes. Electronic cigarettes are healthier for the environment and to those around the user.

2.) Combustible Tobacco

- With electronic cigarettes there is no combustible tobacco. Eliminating the fire hazard of traditional tobacco cigarettes will also save lives. No more risk of fire in homes and automobiles. Cigarettes are the culprit of millions of dollars in fire damage in this country each year. That is money we can all save when using electronic cigarettes. There is no risk of fire damage.

3.) Stimulating the Economy.

- With electronic cigarettes the average user will spend roughly $500.00 a year to feed their addiction. With the average tobacco smoker smoking one pack of cigarettes a day, at the cost of $6.00 a pack, switching to electronic cigarettes will same the smoker an estimated $1684.00 per year. How does this help the economy? With the money that people will save on electronic cigarettes they will be more inclined to spend that savings elsewhere, on numerous different products and services in our country. Saving money on cigarettes will also help people get out of debt. The money smokers will save will give them an extra cash flow, helping them pay off their credit cards and other various debt they may have, which in turn will also help stimulate the economy.

4.) Smoker health.

- With the use of electronic cigarettes the smoker is not subjected to many of the harmful chemicals, known as carcinogens, that are found in traditional tobacco cigarettes. In fact most, if not all, of the ingredients found in electronic cigarettes have already been approved by the FDA and are used in the production of tobacco cigarettes. The major difference in those ingredients is tobacco cigarettes contain many poisonous ingredients, such as the following:

Ammonia: Household cleaner
Angelica root extract: Known to cause cancer in animals
Arsenic: Used in rat poisons
Benzene: Used in making dyes, synthetic rubber
Butane: Gas; used in lighter fluid
Carbon monoxide: Poisonous gas
Cadmium: Used in batteries
Cyanide: Deadly poison
DDT: A banned insecticide
Ethyl Furoate: Causes liver damage in animals
Lead: Poisonous in high doses
Formaldehiyde: Used to preserve dead specimens
Methoprene: Insecticide
Megastigmatrienone: Chemical naturally found in grapefruit juice
Maltitol: Sweetener for diabetics
Napthalene: Ingredient in mothballs
Methyl isocyanate: Its accidental release killed 2000 people in Bhopal, India in 1984
Polonium: Cancer-causing radioactive element.

None of these chemicals are found in electronic cigarettes. The ingredients used in electronic cigarettes are Propylene Glycol, which is FDA approved and used as a solvent in many pharmaceuticals, including oral, injectable and topical formulations. Notably, diazepam, which is insoluble in water, uses propylene glycol as its solvent in its clinical, injectable form. Nicotine, which, again, is already FDA approved and is proven safe to humans in small doses, such as those found in electronic cigarettes. And flavorings, also already approved by the FDA. As you can see electronic cigarettes are not safe, by any means, but electronic cigarettes are far and away safer than tobacco cigarettes in many ways.

The wealth of information that is provided to smokers on electronic cigarettes has proven time and time again that electronic cigarettes are a much safer alternative to tobacco cigarettes for everyone. Not just the smoker, but those around the smoker in their homes, in public, and everywhere in between will benefit from the approval of electronic cigarettes. They are safe in terms of fire hazard and second hand smoke to those subjected, and they are a much safer alternative to traditional tobacco cigarettes for the smoker.

I wrote this letter in hopes that maybe, just maybe, someone will take notice of the benefits of electronic cigarettes and help do something about the FDAs outright unreasonable outlook on them. If you would like to do the same, please do so. The more letters that are sent the greater chance they'll be heard.

You can do so at: Contact Us

I would have written more, but I hit the character limit.

Thanks everyone, see you next time.

-Mike
 

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Being that the President is a radical democrat I'd say that the cost savings isn't going to appeal to him. Democrats want to keep people dependent on gov't, so keeping you as poor as possible is their goal. Maybe, being that he is a smoker himself. will appreciate the e-cig though.


Just a wild guess on my part, by any slim chance are you a "radical" republican?

LOL
 

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Being that the President is a radical democrat I'd say that the cost savings isn't going to appeal to him. Democrats want to keep people dependent on gov't, so keeping you as poor as possible is their goal. Maybe, being that he is a smoker himself. will appreciate the e-cig though.

might want to pick up your knuckles off the floor bud. demos tax the rich rep tax the poor. now say that whole thing over again in your head and see if you really believe it??

nokosa- Very well written letter. While i think obama has much bigger fish to fry. I would think for him to even try the e-cig him self he'd have to hire doctors just to test that it's safe for him. But hell you never know. Anyways do you mind if i use some clips from the letter for posters?
 

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might want to pick up your knuckles off the floor bud. demos tax the rich rep tax the poor. now say that whole thing over again in your head and see if you really believe it??

nokosa- Very well written letter. While i think obama has much bigger fish to fry. I would think for him to even try the e-cig him self he'd have to hire doctors just to test that it's safe for him. But hell you never know. Anyways do you mind if i use some clips from the letter for posters?

Not at all, bud, use what you like. As long as the word gets spread I hope everyone would do the same.
 

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might want to pick up your knuckles off the floor bud. demos tax the rich rep tax the poor. now say that whole thing over again in your head and see if you really believe it??

An indirect tax is still a tax and most often has greater impact on the lower and middle classes of a society; sure you can tax a smaller section of the population for a larger amount, but it is much more lucrative to tax the greater population repeatedly and incrementally for essentially being alive...but point away from this very fact and claim that you are "helping the little guy" by charging the big guy more whilst you are charging the little guy more *too*...just in smaller amounts, continuously ;)

Regardless of your political affiliation, it would be disingenuous as hell to say the President is a Moderate. He isn't :)

-K
 

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Today, Tuesday, September 22, 2009, at 8:20 AM EST, I sent a letter to President Obama on the topic of Electronic Cigarettes. Here is what I wrote:


I wrote this letter in hopes that maybe, just maybe, someone will take notice of the benefits of electronic cigarettes and help do something about the FDAs outright unreasonable outlook on them. If you would like to do the same, please do so. The more letters that are sent the greater chance they'll be heard.

You can do so at: Contact Us

I would have written more, but I hit the character limit.

Thanks everyone, see you next time.

-Mike
Good letter, but unfortuntely they don' care!! They are not stupid and totaly know that e-cigs are healthier and they also know that e-cigs would help hundreds of thousands of people quit smoking. They don't want that!! They allow some smoking cessation products simply so they can say "we have a wide variety available to the public", however the curren ones have a success rate of just 7%. In their math, they figure that if 7% of the population quit smoking and 7% start smoking, that keeps all the tax money coming into the Government. Money trumps death and illness in tis Country!! How sad is that? Seems like th only way to have voices heard nowadays in throug events like tea parties. It would be great to organize something with at least a few thousand people including medical experts or try to somehow get on TV. Why cant Professor Whelan, Dr. Mintz and Dr. Siegel find a good tv interview? They have power and are totally on our side. I would estimate that 90% of all doctors in our country would be for the e-cig (many already are) That is our strength, but time is running out.
 

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might want to pick up your knuckles off the floor bud. demos tax the rich rep tax the poor. now say that whole thing over again in your head and see if you really believe it??
Right... let's think about this. Sin taxes on alcohol and cigs... think that effects the rich that much? Since Obama has been in office the price of a pack of Cigs have skyrocketed due to new taxes. A 12 pack of beer has gone up 2 dollars at the convienience store near my place. You ARE sooo riiight.
Taxing the rich? Ohh you mean businesses... riiight... well maybe you should take an economics class. Businesses do not PAY taxes they CHARGE taxes. You think when Walmart has to pay more taxes they don't turn around and jack their prices up to make up for it?
Just think about it for yourself instead of being a mindless sheep in the herd that you are.
 

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i decided to write him also to help us Californians
i used one of the form letters and then added my personal feeling at the end
i wrote

We the people in California and if passes the United States need your help in this matter on bill Sb400

This was a bill that was originally designed to keep electronic cigarettes out of the hands of children, a purpose which we would have all agreed with in its original form. However SB400, somehow in a matter of a few days, morphed into a complete “prohibition of of the sale of electronic cigarettes in California” and passed in the Senate, while we were commemorating 9/11 and had absolutely no time to protest its altered scope and intention. This bill does not represent the will of the people of the State of California!

Although not sold as a “quit smoking device”, thousands have successfully used the electronic cigarette to quit or or greatly reduce their tobacco smoking and reduce the health risks associated with the combustion of tobacco. Prohibiting the sale of the e-cigarette will not only return many to smoking cigarettes, it could also create a new black market in e cig material that will turn ordinary citizens into “criminals of the State” just to get their nicotine in a safer form.

SB400 was a good intention, run amok. The same arguments re “flavors appealing to children” could also be used to bar the sale of Peppermint Schnapps.
It makes no sense.

i am a ex smoker of 30 years. ever since i started using the ecig i haven't smoked a normal cigarette since. i even have a goal to be completely nicotine free within 60 days. this product has been a life saver. i can breath deeply, i don't weez at night while sleeping, i feel better all around oh and i don't smell like a cigarette. i have tried all of the other products to help you quit smoking and none of them worked. i ended up with most of the side affects or they just didn't help me. The ecig worked and it has for thousands of others also to quit smoking cigarettes.
Why in the world would someone want to ban this and make it illegal.
Mr. President i highly recommend you try this product out. You are a smoker also and i guaranty you will be impressed with this product.
Please help us in this fight
 

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The government actually wants people to continue to smoke. If the tobacco companies were outlawed as they should be for selling a product whose only guaranteed result is death, then the politicians would damn near starve to death because the tobacco lobby is 2nd only to the oil companies in campaign contributions. They own government, they all have senators and congressmen in their pockets that are doing everything they can to slam the door on E-Cigs in the US. Anyone who thinks this is about health, or concerns about what is in the E-Cigs you are seriously deluding yourself. It's about money and whose pocket it is going in. If the E-Cigs are allowed to continue with their success rates on people quittting can you imagine the dent that would put in RJ Reynolds bank statements? The current products available for "smoking cessation" are all garbage and have perhaps the highest failure rate of any product in history that has been approved for it's beneficial uses in helping smokers quit, and touted as successful, yet they fail 97% of the users. None of them work, they have a success rate of what maybe 3%? It seems that damn near every person I have talked with that has tried the E-Cigs has quit smoking and appears to have an inverse success rate to the approved cessation products of around 97%. Now I know these numbers are not fact but are used in exaggerated examples. I would think in reality the E-Cigs could claim at least a 50% success rate but who knows until a study or poll is done. The fact remains that if you want to know the truth follow the money trail and ask yourself who has the most to gain, or lose if these things are allowed to thrive.
 

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Dear sir,
My name is xxxxx xxxxxxxx. I am addressing you, Mr. President, on an issue that I feel is a violation of the Declaration of Independence. As stated in the Declaration of Independence:
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
I include this as a reminder to you. The FDA is currently infringing on the citizens of this countries right to life and the pursuit of happiness. I say this because the FDA is attempting to ban a product that is already saving thousands of lives around the world. The product I am talking about is the electronic cigarette. The electronic cigarette is an alternative to tobacco cigarettes. When puffed on The electronic cigarette uses a battery and a heating element to vaporize a liquid solution containing nicotine. This solution creates a vapor that looks like smoke but is actually just a vapor. Tobacco cigarettes have over 4000 harmful carcinogens as opposed to the 2 trace amount carcinogens found in the electronic cigarette. These 2 trace amounts are identified and acknowledged by the FDA. Yet, the FDA claims that these products are not safer than a tobacco cigarette and are attempting to ban this product by calling it a drug delivery device. The truth of the matter is that they are safer than tobacco cigarettes. If anything, this product should be no differently regulated than a tobacco pipe. The nicotine in an electronic cigarette is produced from tobacco and purified. The electronic cigarette itself is nothing more than an electronic tobacco pipe that delivers a less harmful vapor as apposed to the smoke from tobacco. By eliminating this product you are condemning myself as well as thousands of others in this country to death. I say this because most of us will return to traditional cigarettes and be killing ourselves off. I know that many of you say this is not true because we can and should just quit smoking all together. Though this is a correct statement. Many of us have tried quiting and it just will not happen. I personally have smoked tobacco cigarettes for 18 years at a pack and a half per day. I made a transition to electronic cigarettes three years ago. I did not ever pick up a tobacco cigarette again. I have regained my smell, taste, and ability to fully breathe again without any impairment. My story is not unique as this holds true for most electronic cigarette users. In fact, I was able to buy an electronic cigarette for my neighbor who was under going chemotherapy due to lung cancer. By using the electronic cigarette she was able to get away from tobacco. After about 2 years time she was able to recover drastically. She will never recover fully due to the damage caused by tobacco. Banning this product violates our rights to life and the pursuit of happiness. It is my duty, bound by the declaration of Independence, to see that this type of injustice is not allowed as it effects our Safety and rights to Happiness.


This letter would have been much larger but there is a character limit:mad:
 
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Is this what you meant to say? I think I need clarification on the statement.

Thnx,
Liz

To say vaping, no matter how you look at it, is safe, is ignorant. Not because I don't think it is, but because there is no scientific evidence that proves they are safe.

Saying they are "safe" without that scientific evidence would be inconclusive, and pretty much a lie.

Saying they aren't "safe," but tons safer than tobacco cigarettes, gives the reader the sense that we're against the usage of e-cigarettes, but they provide those of us already addicted to nicotine a much safer alternative.

Did this help?

I guess I could have worded it a bit differently, but lying wouldn't be constructive, rather it would probably hurt the case.
 

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Great letter Nokosa :D!
Everyone that vapes should know that there is a real danger of ecigs being banned altogether. Being proactive and writing our representatives is the best step we can take to stop this action. It's true that the pres. probably has other issues concerning him right now. So, if you have already written the pres, or are thinking about it, it might be more effective to write your local representatives. This site, among others, will tell you how to contact them: whoismyrepresentative(dot)com
As a previous analog smoker and vape lover, I'd like to thank everyone here who has already taken the time to write a letter and to encourage others to do the same. These letters do get read and do make a difference.
 

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Very good letter!

On a side note, I love political arguments because nobody ever has any idea what they're talking about, yet they insist and insist upon it to the point of insulting others.

If a .......n politician doesn't even understand the lines between democrats and republicans, why do you people think you do? Yeah, yeah. Liberal and conservative. That doesn't mean anything. What one person considers liberal, another considers conservative, and visa versa.
 

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I have to agree with some of the political views stated in this thread. No matter what your affiliation rep/dem or GDI, it all comes down to us the vaporizers to educate. I think writing people in high places is okay, but don't think anything will ever come of it. More than likely some flunky non-smoker in the office will throw the letter away before anyone of any importance even gets a chance to see it.

I wrote to Fox News last night asking them to investigate the E-Cigarette/PV. Hoping that their unbias reporting (so they say) would actually take an interest and see that the BIG PHARMA and Tobacco companies are the ones really supporting the ban. Since it seems they are always looking to take a poke at the big boys I thought maybe this might be the place to try. I have noticed that all of the videos I have seen from Fox networks and affiliations due lean toward not slamming the product until they know what the real evidence is. That's okay with me, if these things are bad for me, I want to know. I know I have been tobacco free for 54 days now and if nothing else My MIND tells me I feel better.

So maybe we should try and get the news media on our side first.
Just MHO abd two cents on the subject.
 

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So maybe we should try and get the news media on our side first.
In my opnion...

We have to get the media on our side in order to get the public on our side.
We have to get the public on our side in order to get any politicians to care.
We have to get politicians to care in order to get them to agree.

And we have to have politicians agree in order to get something done.
 
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