My LR atty isnt working with my EGO????
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I'm using a staple mod on one of my TorneGo batts. The center post on the atty is a bit recessed, but it works fine. Without the staple mod, no connection, no vapor, etc.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/11421-cart-mod-better-refilling.html
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I use LR attys on my eGo and love it! Granted, they don't last a long time, it seems, but the experience is worth it! I've ordered from both AltSmoke and Vaporkings and so far, not a dud in the bunch. For around $8.00 each, if they last a week or two of heavy vaping, well, that's still cheaper than ....'s. 
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can someone here explain in a little more detail how to do this paper clip technique or how you pull out the center of the atty a little....
Did anybody consider he might be tripping the pcb on his battery? That would give the exact symptoms he's seeing. Little wisp of vapor and then nothing, and regular attys work just fine and the LR attys will do the same thing more than once (it would only happen once if they burnt out).
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Guys, I think we're all talking over this poor guy's head. espplayer, I would suggest you read the sticky somewhere here in the new members section with all the lingo. I'm pretty new to this as well, but I'll try to answer some things.
From what I was told, the LR atty's are only for dripping. That means do not use a cartridge with the poly filling that is soaked with juice. You use a drip tip that can be purchased separately or use an empty cartridge and pull it off, drip 3 drops of juice right on the atomizer and replace the empty cartridge and vape away for 4-6 puffs. When you notice a slight change in the taste which is hard to describe, but should happen before vapor starts to fall off, it means your atomizer is getting dry and you need to put maybe two more drops in. That is dripping in a nutshell.
If you are using cartridges that press into the atomizer which are filled with fluid you should use the regular atomizer.
If an atomizer isnt working, one thing you can do is check the resistance with a multimeter. set it for Ohms and touch one probe to the center of the battery side of the atomizer and one probe to the threads. If you have a reading around 1.5 Ohms for an LR atty and 3.0 Ohms for a regular, you should be ok. (these numbers vary and I may be off a bit, but in that ballpark. If you get a zero or an infinite resistance, your atty is likely dead. If you are in the ballpark, try blowing out the atomizer from the battery end and see if you just have the thing flooded.
Hope that helps and if anyone more experienced than me wants to correct anything I might have gotten wrong, go right ahead. I won't be offended.
From what I was told, the LR atty's are only for dripping. That means do not use a cartridge with the poly filling that is soaked with juice. You use a drip tip that can be purchased separately or use an empty cartridge and pull it off, drip 3 drops of juice right on the atomizer and replace the empty cartridge and vape away for 4-6 puffs. When you notice a slight change in the taste which is hard to describe, but should happen before vapor starts to fall off, it means your atomizer is getting dry and you need to put maybe two more drops in. That is dripping in a nutshell.
If you are using cartridges that press into the atomizer which are filled with fluid you should use the regular atomizer.
If an atomizer isnt working, one thing you can do is check the resistance with a multimeter. set it for Ohms and touch one probe to the center of the battery side of the atomizer and one probe to the threads. If you have a reading around 1.5 Ohms for an LR atty and 3.0 Ohms for a regular, you should be ok. (these numbers vary and I may be off a bit, but in that ballpark. If you get a zero or an infinite resistance, your atty is likely dead. If you are in the ballpark, try blowing out the atomizer from the battery end and see if you just have the thing flooded.
Hope that helps and if anyone more experienced than me wants to correct anything I might have gotten wrong, go right ahead. I won't be offended.
in the bottom threads of the atty you will see a hole. that piece is the center post. you will need something like a dental pick or even a thumb tact or something to reach in thru the hole and just wiggle it out while pulling just a little bit, this will extend the center post and make connection to your batty connector when screwed in. not too much though if you do get it out too far you can push it back in some..
let us know if that works for you,,,
I'll do it
.LR attys are for using just like any other atty. They are no more intended or suited for dripping than regular attys. They have a lower electrical resistance so mure current runs through the circuit and they produce more heat. That's it. Many find the regular attys with a 3.7v battery to be rather anemic. By producing more heat, LR attys are less so.
LR attys usually run somewhere around 1.5 to 1.8 ohms resistance.
A Joye 510 (regular) atty runs somewhere around 2.2 ohms resistance.
A KR808D cartomizer runs somewhere around 2.6 to 3.1 ohms resistance.
A 901 atty runs somewhere around 3.0 ohms resistance.
All the batteries from the manufacturers (the standard kits) are protected. Among other conditions they are protected against over current/short circuit. If the current draw goes over some threshold the circuit disconnects the battery internally. It's like an automatic fuse, once the condition is cleared the fuse resets by itself.
A regular 510 atty at 2.2 ohms with a 3.7v battery (fully charged is at 4.2v) will draw about 1.8 Amps.
A LR 510 atty at 1.5 ohms with a 3.7v battrey will draw about 2.7 Amps. -- big difference in current.
The smaller batteries with less capacity will have a lower cutoff threshold for the over current protection. I was speculating that this might be why his LR atty isn't working while his regular atty is working. There is a delay (few milliseconds) before the battery protection circuit detects and disconnects in response to an over current condition. It may well be enough to heat the coil enough to produce a wisp of vapor and then nothing. The way to check this is if it's repeatable. If you can do this more than once with the same LR atty then you can rule out the possibility that the atty is burnt out. There may be other things wrong with it but it is not "popped".
Try the LR atty and if you only get a wisp of vapor then try the regular atty.
If the regular atty works as expected then try the LR atty again.
If you get a wisp of vapor on the second try then I would suspect the battery cutoff circuit is tripping. Just a wild guess but a distinct possibility.
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See, I knew I'd get a few things wrong. The only reason I was told to stick with dripping for the LR atty was that because it got hotter, it could burn the cart filler. Don't know if that is a possibility or not myself.
You can burn a cart or the filler with any atty if you try. It's just easier to do the hotter the atty gets. I generally vape at 6v and don't have a problem burning anything. I can, and I have, but I don't have any problems with that happening. For some heat comparisons:
Regular 510 atty with regular 3.7v battery ==> ~7.27 Watts
LR 510 atty with regular 3.7v battery ==> ~ 10.67 Watts
Regular 510 atty with 5v (passthru) ==> ~ 11.36 Watts
Regular 510 atty with "6v" (batterys) ==> ~19 - 22 Watts
Loads of people are using carts, cartomizers, and dripping at 6v.
(even if that was an issue it would be the opposite of his problem)
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I have had the same problem, and figure it is a learning curve. I use the 510s, and one atty lasts a minimum of 2 months. I just purchased 15 LR attys, and in ONE WEEK I have had THREE go dead. Not positive, but I may not have kept them wet enough?
I have been using an LR atty with an ego for about two weeks now with no issues, so I don't think it's just a battery issue unless the atties are defective.
As for dripping vs carts, I have tried normal filler, high ping, PTB and darts mods (all explained in the cart mod forum and none of them have been able to feed sufficient amounts of juice to the coil. This is my understanding of why they are better for dripping.
As for dripping vs carts, I have tried normal filler, high ping, PTB and darts mods (all explained in the cart mod forum and none of them have been able to feed sufficient amounts of juice to the coil. This is my understanding of why they are better for dripping.
Well... quality control on everything we deal with is not stellar (except on my BB and SBs, lol). So if the cutoff current on the batteries pcb is close to the current being drawn all you'd need is something like a 0.1 ohm variance on the atty to make a difference. For example, I'm using those green ultrafire CR2s stacked for 6v. About half the time I use KR808D cartomizers on it. I have to check them with an ohm meter when I get them. Most will run about 3.0-3.1 ohms. I have gotten boxes where all or most run about 2.7 ohms. The cutoff with my setup is 2.8 ohms. With a 2.8 ohm atomizer I'll get about 1/2 puff or less each time I take a drag. It's right on the edge. With 2.9 ohm cartomizers it's just fine. It was just a thought.
Maybe it is NOT a learning curve - just popped in a new atomizer and it took all of 1/2 hour to be DEAD.
I bought 15 of these low resistant attys, and if they are all this bad, I will be lucky if my supply lasts for 2 weeks.I bought them from Eastmall at the great price of $3.00 each. But it is not such a bargain with the added $15.00 shipping if they don't last. Anyone else having problems with these attys?
Maybe it is NOT a learning curve - just popped in a new atomizer and it took all of 1/2 hour to be DEAD.
I bought them from Eastmall at the great price of $3.00 each. But it is not such a bargain with the added $15.00 shipping if they don't last. Anyone else having problems with these attys?
I have tried and tested these LR's as well.. They seem ok,,, I had one that seemed to lose it's draw.. and what I found out is.. that if you vape them too hot/dry... it appears that the plastic like material (most atties have) melted a bit....
I also popped one.. but it was dry.. and I pushed it to its limits with my varitable power supply... made it to 4.5v ..but pushed it too hard.
I can't say that it's impossible for an atty to blow so soon even under normal conditions but they definately need to be treated differently than standard atties.
1. the low resistance @ approx 1.5 makes that atty a workhorse @ 3.x volts..
2. people were talking about standard atty issues when 6v mods were coming into the scene... for the same reasons...
You have to keep them wet and wet more often
You can't vape them non-stop with out letting them cool down a bit.
If they are too much for one.. then I believe there are Higher resistant LR atties out there,,, that will give you more flexibility.... but still need care
because these are not like the standards on a 3.x volt ecig.. where you can take 10sec draws with no problems
hope that helps
LGD
Oh I would also like to add... the one that I didn't push and took care of is still working.. week so far..
I purchased 5 LR's from Totally Wicked when they first started selling them, back in March (I think). Anyhow, 4 are still going strong and the 5th is still virgin, in the little ziplock. I don't drip, but I do keep them very wet and as soon as I get a hot/burnt taste, I stop and fill the cartridge.
Everytime I fill the cartridge, I drip a couple drops directly into the atty before I put the Cart back in. Also, I'm partial to the blue foam mod with coffe stirring straw that I found in the mod section here.
Don't know if what I'm doing is correct, but it's worked for almost 3 months.
Side note: Don't know if this has anything to do with it, but I rarely clean the LR Atomizer. But, when I do, it's with Smirnoff's Triple Distilled No 57 Vodka. They sit in the vodka for a couple days, with a little shake every so often. If you picky about the paint job on the atomizer, don't do this. I've has a couple that the paint is starting to come off.
Everytime I fill the cartridge, I drip a couple drops directly into the atty before I put the Cart back in. Also, I'm partial to the blue foam mod with coffe stirring straw that I found in the mod section here.
Don't know if what I'm doing is correct, but it's worked for almost 3 months.
Side note: Don't know if this has anything to do with it, but I rarely clean the LR Atomizer. But, when I do, it's with Smirnoff's Triple Distilled No 57 Vodka. They sit in the vodka for a couple days, with a little shake every so often. If you picky about the paint job on the atomizer, don't do this. I've has a couple that the paint is starting to come off.
Thanks, I will be a bit more careful
I have kept them wet, but I might have let them get too hot with too many draws without a cool down. BTW: I am using them on the Indulgence and the Precise, so they are 3V.- Status
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