my panzer does not work

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mortalkill

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I have a Panzer clone. It has a floating 510 pin. If you screw your atty all the way onto the mod it will push that pin in.

If your atty is flush with the top of the mod, remove it, take off the top part of the mod and push the pin up towards the atty. Reassemble it all without screwing the atty all the way onto the mod. Put he battery in so it's setup snug inside then tighten the atty a bit more, gently.

Let us know if that helps.

ETA: BTW, I would not use an UltraFire battery in any mod. Too risky. A VTC4 bought from a reputable supplier is much, much safer.
have no idea what all this means damn :(
 

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the top section has a "floating" pin assembly, sometimes it gets stuck in the sleeve, put an atty on the top section, hold top section firmly and give it a good ( resonable) wack on a hard surface ( drives the + pin up into the 510 connector and makes contact with the base of the atty) adjust the + pin that makes contact with the battery. Install upper section to the tube, install battery, replace bottom cap and shake, if battery is loose, readjust + pin till battery doesnt rattle in tube when bottom cap is on.
 
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also, check the bottom switch assembly too, remove switch from the tube and depress the button as if trying to fire the mod, the contact needs to rise above the oring in the base assembly by just a tad.. if it doesnt rise above the oring at all, you need to adjust the contact button till it does so. Make sure you dont let it go too high or you will have a "constant on" situation.
 
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the top section has a "floating" pin assembly, sometimes it gets stuck in the sleeve, put an atty on the top section, hold top section firmly and give it a good ( resonable) wack on a hard surface ( drives the + pin up into the 510 connector and makes contact with the base of the atty) adjust the + pin that makes contact with the battery. Install upper section to the tube, install battery, replace bottom cap and shake, if battery is loose, readjust + pin till battery doesnt rattle in tube when bottom cap is on.
no idea what the floating pin is or 510 connector are any of them shown in the pictures i provided earlier
 

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Are you talking about that ?
 

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in pic 3 the brass pin sticking out of the bottom of the top section is the floating pin, it moves in and out of the black hard plastic. When you put the atty with the longer threads on it, it moved that pin down, and when you put the shorter threaded atty on, it couldnt reach the pin....

Imagine having a pencil stuffed into a straw and you take a 1" dowel rod and shove the pencil into the straw 1" into it, now you want to touch the pencil in the straw with a 1/2" long dowel rod.... wont touch. So now you need to push that pencil back up by pushing the pencil from the bottom of the straw to the top so the 1/2" dowel rod can touch it.... same process with the Panzer floating pin assembly.....
 
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the 510 connection is the hole in the top of the "top" section of the mod ( the part you put the atty into) the + pin is the piece of brass ( looks like a screw head) in the hole on top of the top section of the mod, the floating pin is the brass part in the bottom of the top section of the mod which touches the black hard plastic, the + pin adjustment is the "flat" ridgey sided "screw" sticking out of the floating pin ( it turns just like a screw)and is used to adjust for differences in battery length ( yup all batteries are NOT the same exact length)....
 
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And you may have to get a small tube like magnet to go in the center of the battery to MN ake a good contact.

The Panzer doesn't need this and it is a dangerous thing to do. On the negative end, if the magnet shifts sideways the mod can keep firing without the button pressed. On the positive end, it can dead short the battery.
 
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OMG FIXED IT !!!!!!!!!!!!

Good to hear that mortalkill :). And you probably know a lot more about how the mod works now too. But you really should take the time to read Baditude's info on batteries, mechanical mods and Ohm's law and how it relates to keeping that battery from venting.

Some of the basic stuff is if you build a coil that's too low in ohms you're going to draw too much current from the battery and it's going to heat up. If it gets hot enough it will vent. That has occasionally caused a mod to explode, sorta like a pipe bomb. It doesn't happen often, but when it does it can be quite painful. There are vent holes in the mod to let the gas escape and prevent an explosion, but they can become blocked when the battery vents.

If you do something wrong that shorts the battery, it will go into thermal runaway and vent quickly. Once that happens there's nothing you can do to stop it, you just have to try to get the mod to a safe place and let it happen. If you can get the battery out it can help reduce the risk of explosion, but it could also explode while your taking it out. You are the only safety mechanism in this system. Regulated mods have safety features built in, like not letting the mod fire if the resistance is too low, or there is a short. They also stop firing before the battery is drained too far which will hurt the battery and if it's done a few times or they get drained too low can also make the battery dangerous.

If you have any more questions, feel free to ask.

Vape safe and enjoy :thumb:
 
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