My Plume Veil Build w/ rayon - Perhaps a Tutorial to Some

[jaxgator]

Thanks man!

Double of what I have? Jesus man! You must be a magician.

Yeah, I need to get over the DIY sub-forum and get up to speed on making my own juice.

 

[G-weezy]

It's pretty simple. Not as tough as I thought. Just have to find that flavor you like.

Yea almost double the rayon you use. But remember I'm wrapping my coils on a 1/8th bit. So I need to stuff the crap out of it. It's still holding strong. Will be using this all day at work. Chat later.

 

[jaxgator]

Day 4

Mostly vaping my usual but today I also threw in some MFS Cappuccino (60PG/40VG - blech!) and Mt Baker Vapor's Orange Dream. More of my 12mg juice so just a couple of fill ups of those two.

Finished the evening with some 6mg Mother's Milk. I am dripping anywhere from 12-20 drops (3-5/wick) between vape sessions and getting about 17-18 pulls before the flavor starts to mute.

After Mother's Milk...and wouldja looky here?

Gunk being arced off of the coils. No matter. Easy fix with a pair of tweezers...

I am starting to see a tiny bit of discoloration there on the top and bottom of that left coil but it looks fairly decent for now.

Ohms checked out to the same resistance as yesterday (.39Ω). I'll report on that again if it changes.

Still enjoying a fine, thick, flavorful vape.

See you tomorrow.

 

[jaxgator]

Day 5

Tried something a little different today. Finished up the rest of the 12mg MM in the Erl with my coffee and then decided to give SB's 12mg Madrina a whirl in the Plume Veil this morning. Nic content really didn't apply as it didn't really seem like the normal 12 mg kick that i have received from vaping prior 12mg juices. So, I enjoyed it for a while earlier this morning.

But then, I attempted to change flavors. Uh-oh! This isn't right. Why does my Cappuccino have a melon aftertaste? Even after I have vaped it away?

For whatever reason, I kept tasting that same melon aftertaste no matter what other juice I tried to drown it out with. And I tried several. MM, Cappuccino, some Mt Baker Vapor juices, etc. All finished with that Madrina aftertaste. Dammit!

As luck would have it, I needed to visit my local B&M for a refill of their Cappuccino. Only had about 4 ml left. Communicated via email with Madison (manager) to get my juice in a 70/30 mix.

Now, I had vaped a friend's menthol juice and it was ok but I remembered that it seemed to clear my palette. Since I didn't have any menthol juice, I asked Madison to make me a bottle of their sweet menthol.

Got home. Vaped through about three sessions with the menthol and lo' and behold! No more freaking melon taste in any of my juices from this wick. All systems go again!

Anyone out there interested in purchasing or trading a 28ml bottle of 12mg nic SB's Madrina? No? How about a 26ml bottle of 12mg nic of SB's SP? I didn't like that one either. MM only for me from that line.

Now, I have smoked menthol cigarettes in the past in a pinch, but they certainly weren't my go to smoke. Vaping menthol is just such a different experience from smoking menthol. Believe it or not, I actually enjoyed the menthol vape. And the best part is that I got my wicks back.

I believe I've already mentioned what this wick has been through today...

Day 5 is looking pretty much like the end of day 2 concerning wicks and coils...

All in all, I am very satisfied with this build overall. Every cog in the wheel is performing well. Don't want to jinx myself but it is looking like this build, as mentioned in my OP, may last me a long, long time.

Not sure I need to keep doing this here as there doesn't seem to be much interest.

Perhaps, I will, instead, just keep this in a personal log for the duration of this coil/wick set up for my own experimentation purposes.



Peace

 

[JeremyR]

I'm watching to see if you make it 20 days..

I put a sample of kiwi in mine once took half a day and some dk tab to get rid of it.. Stuff was strong.. Yeah I don't like fruity vapes...

 

[jaxgator]

I'm watching to see if you make it 20 days..

I put a sample of kiwi in mine once took half a day and some dk tab to get rid of it.. Stuff was strong.. Yeah I don't like fruity vapes...

To tell the truth, I initially thought this wick might just make 3 weeks. I was hoping for that anyway. Still looking fairly decent but starting to see more crud in the wick. We shall see.

Heads up for all Plume Veil owners out there that might be following this thread ... Periodically, check the status of your wicks!

Although these wicks have been performing quite well (perhaps that's why I didn't think to check), I noticed something the other day that I wanted to point out to you. I typically have been just removing the top and dripping onto each individual wick. Well, when I finally took off the sleeve and examined the wicks I found the following...

The Plume Veil's (other's too, I'm not sure as I haven't been at this long) require wick maintenance.

That's right! Not a single strand of wick on the deck there!

Here's the other side...

This side still has some wick on the deck but not all of it.

The Plume Veil has the air holes that go through the neg posts and are supposed to be directed towards the back side of the coils. This air flow is actually being redirected towards the pos post and diverted towards the wicks. The air flow is supposed to flow towards the back of the coils but obviously, that's not exactly happening.

After some wicking maintenance, we are good to go again...

All four corners...

Not much change in coils or wicks other than the wicks getting a couple more pieces of crud in them. Vapor production and flavor don't seem to have changed. Coils still at .39Ω.

 

[NoMoreTequila]

Just finished reading this thread. Good job. Great read. Thanks!

 

[JeremyR]

The wick on the right in the last pic looks a little light to me. The coil is standing higher than the wick meaning the wick is sagging in the coil. The effect of this condition is exasperated the higher you take the power.

Sometimes you'll get some carbon buildup towards the end of a fill when the well gets dry before you redrip. Then these carbon deposits will get boiled and popped off after well saturated hits. So you have some harmless specks of black showing on the wicks. While the coil is clean again. The specks don't effect anything but looks

I usually thin the tails where they bend and start to go to the deck. I find it wicks even better with thinned tails. What I have touching the deck is a very thin layer of wick.

Oh and a little buildup in the coil isn't the end, try to take it to the gunk you had with cotton before you pulled and dry burned. Or it stops performing well enough

 

[JeremyR]

Well, when I finally took off the sleeve and examined the wicks I found the following...

The Plume Veil's (other's too, I'm not sure as I haven't been at this long) require wick maintenance.

That's right! Not a single strand of wick on the deck there!

Here's the other side...

This side still has some wick on the deck but not all of it.

Your first two pictures show this phenomenon well too. The wick isn't even in the juice. Only a small part of the wick or one side was in the juice and it was wicking well. I think you'll find it's more efficient if next time you thin it and only have 1/4 of the wick thickness going to the deck. Basically where your wick would take a bend is where you start to thin it

Like this is how I wick my drippers.

 

[jaxgator]

Your first two pictures show this phenomenon well too. The wick isn't even in the juice. Only a small part of the wick or one side was in the juice and it was wicking well. I think you'll find it's more efficient if next time you thin it and only have 1/4 of the wick thickness going to the deck. Basically where your wick would take a bend is where you start to thin it

Like this is how I wick my drippers.

Thanks for this response and the one prior to this one. I almost came here to tell you that I'm thinking of doing a dry burn and rewick because the coils are starting to look gunked. Granted, they are still performing well. Therefore, upon reading your response, I think I will let the wicks go as is for now and continue on to see just how long they last.

Although, because of my inefficient wicking, I will have to stay on top of them to make sure they stay on the deck.

When the time comes for a dry burn and rewicking, I will be sure to take your advice in the comments and image above.

 

[JeremyR]

You can always try to cut the wet tails at an angle next time you check them. It may help them stay down and improve the wicking. Maybe try to spread out the thin tips with a couple needles.. It may clean the coils back off just from the extra juice flow to the coil. I see that happen over the course of 2 weeks. When it's wicking really good it can pop the gunk right off.

I find if the tails are larger in fiber amount than the coil the tails can hold juice back from the coil. Ymmv

 

[jaxgator]

I didn't even think to modify the wicks while they were installed and wet. Good idea. I believe I'll give it a go the next time I check them.

 

[Kemosabe]

Day 3

"I'm out there (insert your screen name here), and I'm lovin' every minute of it!"

lovin' @ 0:39

 

[twgbonehead]

info@aethertech.com, however i just got done reading about how no one gets replies from this email addy. fb or ig would be my next guess? or contact the shop/supplier you got it from and see if they have any info as to contacting them directly.

Or order a clone from FT instead... (Actually these should probably be called counterfeits...) If you buy a bunch of them, you lower the $110 you paid for the original, according to modern economists (who call it "Dollar Cost Averaging")

$13.73 Plume Veil Style Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer - stainless steel / gold plated / 22mm diameter at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
$10.04 Plume Veil Style Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer - stainless steel / 22mm diameter at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

If I paid 10X the price for an original and it looked like yours would I have an issue buying one of the above? Nope!

 

[jaxgator]

Day 10

The jig is up! Not that the wick needs changed but the coils need a dry burn.

 

[jaxgator]

Hated to kill these wicks. Decided to try and keep 'em instead. It's not tasting bad so what the hell.

Trimmed 'em up...

Repositioned and wicked...

One side...

And the other...

Day 21, here we come!

 

[JeremyR]

Still not seeing a complex gunk over the coils. Only a little like a day on cotton.

Keep going if it's working fine.

So you decided it wasn't that bad yet and did not dry burn right, well pics speak for themselves but to be clear to the readers.

Now that one wick I have been thinking looked a little to light from the beginning .. The last pic above.. Is that wick still in full contact with the coil? Or is it just the picture.

Run it till performance falls for you and you feel its time because of the vape not the look.. Still waiting for real gunk...


12 days I will say that there is definitely even more potential for it to be even better. The density in the coils looks a little low from the pics especially that one. And I now do see you've got some gunking. If you haven't sagged away from the inside of the coil keep going for sure. If it's lost contact on that one it probably won't bust the gunk off because it's not going to wick to coil efficiently enough.

 

[JeremyR]

This is the coil I'm talking about -

There's no way that's touching with full contact to the inside of the coil is there?
I would say no and there for that's also the coil that is finally showing gunk.

Even with that you've made it an extremely long long time with no maintenance.

 

[JeremyR]

This is the coil I'm talking about -

There's no way that's touching with full contact to the inside of the coil is there?

Even with that you've made it a long time with no maintenance.

 

[jaxgator]

Still not seeing a complex gunk over the coils. Only a little like a day on cotton.

Keep going if it's working fine.

So you decided it wasn't that bad yet and did not dry burn right, well pics speak for themselves but to be clear to the readers.

That is correct, I did not dry burn the coils.

Now that one wick I have been thinking looked a little to light from the beginning .. The last pic above.. Is that wick still in full contact with the coil? Or is it just the picture.

You're absolutely correct and have been all along.

I took a look this afternoon and although I didn't see it prior to trimming the wicks and vaping on it last night, here's what I am seeing this evening...

Clear as day, the wick is not touching the coil.

Run it till performance falls for you and you feel its time because of the vape not the look.. Still waiting for real gunk...

12 days I will say that there is definitely even more potential for it to be even better. The density in the coils looks a little low from the pics especially that one. And I now do see you've got some gunking. If you haven't sagged away from the inside of the coil keep going for sure. If it's lost contact on that one it probably won't bust the gunk off because it's not going to wick to coil efficiently enough.

As I mentioned earlier, it was performing fine last night but after seeing this, it looks like it's time to dry burn and re-wick. Ah well, they lasted a helluva lot longer than cotton and I am happy with that.