And no matter which party is ruling, they both serve the will of the aristocrats, while pointing fingers at the other party for blame, while hoping and praying we will never figure out what is REALLY going on.
My senator didn't read my message either
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And no matter which party is ruling, they both serve the will of the aristocrats, while pointing fingers at the other party for blame, while hoping and praying we will never figure out what is REALLY going on.
The rhetoric makes it seem that way, but don't fool yourself into thinking that all politicians are in the pocket of big business and special interests. There are many representatives who have the best interests of the public in mind. There are effective and fair representatives on both sides of the aisle. Cynicism is just as damaging as blind party loyalty.
i've work with legaslators before and the more real you are and your story are the better. In person is the best.. Phone call and suggest news media. they will call you back. don't threaten if you don't have news worthy stuff don't pretend you do. buzz words disability , homeless, fighting chronic illness, poor insurance. Our story is full of things. i got a letter back from john cornyn but him and kay want cigerrette smokers to pay for childrens insurance in texasx. the deal was already done . i responded with everyones going homemade and did they notice texas parked their cars during the high gas prices of last summer
It should be obvious from my post. Maybe you need to read it again?
Actually, I wasn't trying to jump into the middle of the fray. I thought you were being discouraging about contacting gov't officials which isn't a good thing...but now that I read through more of the thread, I see there's lots more going on here, so I'll just quietly tiptoe backwords out of the room - shoes in hand - and let ya'all hash it out.
Roger that. Yeah, I'm not saying it doesn't work. I'm saying that it works better if you pick up a phone and call. Basically it's like this from best to worst:
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But you shouldn't hesitate to do any of them. Senate and Congressional offices track all of those things and report to the Senators and Congressmen. When representatives see a lot of "yes" or "no" comments on a particular issue it can have an impact on how they vote.
I don't know. I remember when they were considering the first bailout. One after the other stated calls from the public were 99 to 1 AGAINST the bailout. What did they do? THEY PASSED IT OVERWHELMINGLY, with NO regard whatsoever for public opinion. Who do they serve again?
It's not a guarantee. Sometimes they listen, sometimes they don't. That's the thing with a representative democracy. We send them there to use their own judgment on our behalf. They have the right to vote however they like.
But when it comes to an issue that they may not fully understand (like e-cigarettes) or that they're on the fence about, a flood of calls, mail and emails can and does change minds.
It might be childish of me, but I was actually thinking it's too bad we can't give points to whom we agree with. Maybe a thumbs up or thumbs down sort of counter for each post in these kinds of situations.
Ted Stevens, and a series of internet tubes. Most do not make an effort to understand new technology, they rely upon what "their" experts and accountants tell them, even having less of a clue then themselves.
Cynicism is just as counter productive as cleaving to the party line.
But they DO understand what they are doing. They are guaranteeing Altria/Phillip Morris' market share by placing tobacco with the FDA, who now has the power to ban any competition. They bow to the corporations, or bend us over for them. Why do you think they extended copyright another 20 years, PRECISELY one year before Mickey Mouse fell out from under copyright? What is so evil about the public domain, which is freely available to all, such that copyrights have now become perpetual monopolies for the corporations?
How do these issues and votes represent us? How do you and I benefit now that Altria's market share is guaranteed? How are other tobacco users represented when new technologies, which may be able to COMPLETELY remove the present health effects of tobacco, are no longer allowed into the market? How are the non-smokers in the lives of those tobacco users represented when life saving new technologies are denied entry into the market? We are now in a situation where government interference could resign many to death from lung cancer, while barring technologies that remove that possibility from the market. How is that a net gain for us? How did the public benefit with Mickey Mouse remaining under copyright? Are there no other creative folk in this country who could have created new stories with that character, aside from Disney? Altria benefits here. Disney benefits here. As far as the public? Well screw them. They shouldn't be using tobacco anyway (or vaping for that matter), because mummy Altria and daddy gubment said so.
I fail to see how the public benefits in these instances. I fail to see how these people on Capitol Hill have held OUR interests at heart for so much as one second, in these instances. By all means, please enlighten me in these blatant examples where the will of the corporations were done by our ALLEGED representatives, and not a care was paid to how it ended up affecting we the people.
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i think our congressmen do get sucked into a barter and play to pay situations just like plea bargining. they are hardly reachable after just a few session's. trying to fit in means so much compimise. the camera's seem to affect them also.
Don't let emotion cloud your reasoning. Like it or not, tobacco products should have been the regulatory prevue of the FDA from day one. The only thing that's kept it out of their hands is a powerful tobacco lobby. The problem isn't that the FDA is going to take over regulating tobacco. The problem is that traditional smoking products and new low risk products get treated the same under this bill.
how slow is the fda. and don't they have better things to do.. half the stuff they do approve gets pulled later. is the fda really an agency that is trusted anymore. i think its all pass the buck with no real solutions and/or science for years.
"Oh my GOD! He said you were a WHAT?!?!?! ---an IDEOLOGUE!?"
--Well those are some fighting words right there if I ever heard any.
What the hell is wrong with you?
You are being such a woman about it....
dEFinitionofEPIC,
I personally don't find your question as offensive, but for reasons of his own he did. Do I think he overreacted? Yes. If Surf Monkey found the question out of line he could just as easily answered "That is none of your business".
The purpose of my post really isn't about that, though. It is about the last line of this post. In my opinion, that is treading in deep water.
From your posts I think you're a good guy! I just wouldn't want to be standing too close to you if "Hell's Fury" could transmit through the net 
.Lu,
By the time I finished my post your and about 20 others were posted. Don't want you to think I ignored your comment in any way!
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Surf Monkey,
I don't intend to get into a p*ssing contest with you but WerkIt had it exactly right. "For the people" and "by the people" is a antiquated ideology. In my opinion, you are very naive to believe this still to be true.
This question could have been answered "making a phone call is more effective". Instead, all I have read is you spewing out a lot of arrogant rhetoric, trying to impress everyone with your "knowledge" of the interworkings of government, and calling anyone who doesn't agree with you "cynical" or guilty of "emotionaly clouded reasoning". Superiority complexes aren't attractive.
I believe that any means that any of us use to communicate our cause to anyone is worthwhile. There are a lot of people here who have good ideas, some more effective than others, but have been stifled by your aggressive behavior. I don't think that I recall anyone asking you to be their Sensei!
Your social skills negate your intellect.
The depth of irony in this sentence coming after your ranting mischaracterization is nothing short of hilarious.
You don't have to agree with my viewpoint, but have the courtesy not to use the exact tactics you accuse me of in your reply. It undermines your position.
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