My Ultra-legal-Christian sister says its sin to smoke the 510 yeti??

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GirlyPantz

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I would ask her if she could honestly look at a person who is at serious risk of developing lung cancer and try to tell them that it is a sin to try to save themselves or better their chances by quitting smoking.
If she has ever inhaled the steam from tea or coffee then she is no better or worse than a vaper. It is still a steam/vapour containing a stimulant. As for the other ingredients they are ALL found in everyday foods and steam from food is also vapour. I always carry a bottle of food flavouing in my hand bag for such people, I bought it at my local supermarket in the baking aisle.

Its ingredients are: propylene glycol, glycerine, water, flavouing, colour 155 -- Been in production and use for 100+ years (it says so right on the lable)

while they are reading this I tell them the ingredients used in e-cigs: propylene glycol, glycerine, water, flavouing(and explain that it IS food grade), nicotine is OPTIONAL
Then I go onto explain some of the other common uses for PG/VG, smoke machines, inhalers, sterilizing air in hospitals etc... and you can even wipe VG inside your freezer to make defrosting easier because its a food safe antifreeze. Nicotine on its own is not a carcinogen that is why the nicotine replacements do not carry the same health warnings as cigarettes.

I find this method answers their questions and addresses their fears and any scare mongering they may have heared. They walk away happy and so do I.

I know it is time consuming and inconveniant at times, but it really is up to us as vapers to educate the public and to do it nicely. After all we want to vape and non-vapers need to be on our side and not on the side of the tobacco/pharmaceutical industry (who DO have the money to advertise and influence decisions.)
 
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Rosa

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I'm not a religious person at all (hello, atheist vapors social group *waves*) But, IMO, if there was ever proof of God's work on earth it would be electronic cigarettes. I haven't seen modern technology save so many people so quickly and so painlessly. I don't see how that could be bad, and if she thinks it's a sin then she is either a COMPLETE hypocrite or very ignorant about what these things do (or, perhaps I just didn't read the passage in the Bible that talks about nicotine being a sin but caffeine being holy).
 

MrByte

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Sorry to say you cannot reason with such people. If they are convinced that the current incarnation of their Jewish hill god (sarcasm level: 10) will punish them for using an e-cig, all the health benefits, studies, etc. will do no good.

It's bad enough that the anti-smokers out there will go out of their way to make one miserable for using an e-cig indoors. Ignorance cannot excuse them, they just like being .......s.
 

oldfatguy

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I have not read all of the replies but just want to put in my two cents worth. I am a Christian and one thing I try to keep in mind more than almost anything else is the statement "Judge not lest ye be also judged" and " the same standard you use to judge another is the standard that will be used to judge you" not exact phrases but idea. since I do not want to be judged on perfection I will not demand others be perfect. As a matter of fact it is written, "all have sinned" so I need to concentrate on myself. Let others deal with their own life, I cannot deal with mine, much less theirs.
 

vapi

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Plus, if you can buy e-liquid that's Kosher, how can that be a sin?


"Not that which goeth into the mouth of a man defileth a man; that which cometh out of the mouth defileth a man. " (Mat. 15:11)

I think it's great that most Atheist tend to know the bible better than the churchies! lol

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I bet her response would be that Jews are sinners and horrible people!

Cynnamin, I'm pretty sure that's a Jesus quote. Unless you are making a funny, then haha, Jesus was a horrible Jew!
 

Zal42

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I have not read all of the replies but just want to put in my two cents worth. I am a Christian and one thing I try to keep in mind more than almost anything else is the statement "Judge not lest ye be also judged" and " the same standard you use to judge another is the standard that will be used to judge you" not exact phrases but idea. since I do not want to be judged on perfection I will not demand others be perfect. As a matter of fact it is written, "all have sinned" so I need to concentrate on myself. Let others deal with their own life, I cannot deal with mine, much less theirs.

My hat is off to you, sir. You are one of a rare group of people: a Christian who actually thinks about and tries to follow the ideals taught by Jesus. I am pleased to have heard your voice.
 

Hrtbrkr1965

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After keeping tabs on this "so called issue" I believe it was started to get the old religious argument going and for no other reason! Religion and politics are sure to fire up as much controversy and tempers as possible! If the point is/was this then just say hey let's argue about religion or politics! This many people in a community will surely have plenty of takers LOL
I think it has had about 191 posts more than it deserved and someone needs to shovel some dirt on it and let it die! LOL
RIP fake religious thread!:evil::facepalm:
 

Hrtbrkr1965

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I like talking about religion, I think it's an interesting subject. I like psychology, science and math too :) ... and books. :)

I am not against that by any means Rosa! I have enjoyed reading your posts along with participating with you and many other good folks here in helping new members get there issues worked out in the new member forum!
I enjoy talking politics and such also! I just don't think this topic was real! Just seemed to try to ramp up the Drama for a while to keep it rolling!
Having kid's I just got the feeling as this was one of the " look at me, look at me" topics LOL
I could be wrong and Lord know's it wouldn't be the 1st time (don't tell my wife I said that LOL) but it's just the feeling I got after following it for a while!
 

Cynnamin

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Cynnamin, I'm pretty sure that's a Jesus quote. Unless you are making a funny, then haha, Jesus was a horrible Jew!

Most definitely a joke, of course he was... ;) In the eyes of people like her, Jesus was just awful - care for others, don't judge them, etc. etc. I think Jesus would be happy that we are working toward keeping our bodies pure and living longer to, you know, spread his gospels, care for others, and above all, be around to love one another..... but hey, what do I know? I'm just an agnostic who figures that Jesus did live and was an incredible man and how unfortunate it is that something which could do so much good in the world is too busy worrying about what other people put in their bodies! ;)
 
Im a Christian, and stuff like that is what gives us a bad name! How cooky is that.. I get the whole "your body is a temple" mentality but jeeze... if shes a caffeine addict that is JUST as bad if not worse. Very hypocritical. We all have our vices. None of us is in a place to judge... thats between each of us and our maker..

Edit: Also, last time I checked this was a free country.. I didn't realize we were outlawing sin now.. If this is an issue shes so passionate about how about she start advocating for the ban of strip cubs, casino's and oh yeah.. ANALOGS!!!
 
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simply me

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As a pastors wife she needs to ask the Lord for wisdom. Maybe she know how much she can hurt people with such a closed mine. Don't vape in the chruch . You are really disrepecting God. I would look for another church to attend. I believe the Lord lead me to the e-cig. I smoked for 42 years. been off the cigs for a year next month. Your sister is wrong and needs to maybe humble alittle.
 
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