My update after 5 months of vaping

[buccaneersfan]

Hi all, it's been 5 months I quit smoking and switched to vaping, I want to thank you all for helping with my questions during my early days and suggesting me a good kit. Here is how I feel now.

As we are hearing lot of vaping related sickness issues I was in a dilemma for last 2 months if this is really gonna hurt me or I am fine. I get small pain on left front rib cage side when I vape recently. I am not sure if I am over thinking about news and that's causing me doubts.

And also i used to sleep fine for first 4 months of vaping, for last 1 month I did not get a good sound sleep. Is this anything to do with vaping or am I stressed about some job/other issues.

As always thanks for your suggestions.

 

[englishmick]

Congratulations on quitting.

As for the vaping illness that's been in the news lately, don't worry about it. It appears to be definitively linked to THC not nicotine vaping.

Odd aches and pains and trouble sleeping happen to everyone all the time. It's natural to worry a bit if you are doing something new, especially with the junk reporting going around about vaping illnesses, but at this point I say just give it some time.

One thing, trouble sleeping can happen sometimes with nicotine. Maybe you could try slowing down on the vaping for a while before you go to bed.

Some people have problem with either the VG or the PG in the mix. Either allergies or minor problems. But they aren't going to harm you. You can figure that out later.

Good luck

 

[englishmick]

And quitting smoking causes a variety of symptoms, for quite a long time, while your body detoxifies.

 

[Eskie]

That’s great on five months. Your concern is understandable in light of all the media attention but the problem appears to be related to an agent, vitamin E acetate, being used to cut THC oil in cartridges. It’s not used in nicotine based liquids and there’s no evidence the stuff we vape has anything to do with it.

Nicotine can affect sleep patterns but it’s tough to say that’s a problem after four months of no issues, but maybe see if reducing vaping right before bed helps.

As to pain, well, that’s always a tough one. Remember, you did smoke for a long time and the risks of all that exposure doesn’t disappear as soon as you stop. If you have significant chest pain it’s always best to check with your doctor about it. Tough to see it as vape induced and may just be related to over sensitivity to anything vape related due to the news, but I’d never accept medical advice on a web forum.

 

[Don29palms]

This might be a far fetched idea but I would talk to a health professional about health issues. In other words, go see a doctor.

 

[T0mmy1977]

Don't call the FDA.

 

[dreamvaper]

Don't call the FDA.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

Hate to tell you, but there STILL is not enough data to prove how harmful or unharmful vaping is. Nor is it possible to tell if you might have an allergic reaction to vaping.

No one on the internet can effectively help you with a medical matter. Also, no one here can tell you if you are stressed out or what you are stressed out about or if that stress is causing medical issues or difficulty sleeping.

You could have a lung issue that is exacerbated by vaping, but not caused by it, but how could anyone on the internet know?

Please see a doctor. You don't have to tell him you are a vaper, just tell them what is wrong. I would, however, tell him you are a former smoker as this might make him take your chest pain more seriously.

If your chest pain is ever coupled with even a slight shortness of breath and/or dizziness, go to the E/R immediately.

If I were you, I would stop vaping for a while until you can get to the bottom of this. This could be a serious problem, vaping related or not.

 

[Don29palms]

Hate to tell you, but there STILL is not enough data to prove how harmful or unharmful vaping is. Nor is it possible to tell if you might have an allergic reaction to vaping.

No one on the internet can effectively help you with a medical matter. Also, no one here can tell you if you are stressed out or what you are stressed out about or if that stress is causing medical issues or difficulty sleeping.

You could have a lung issue that is exacerbated by vaping, but not caused by it, but how could anyone on the internet know?

Please see a doctor. You don't have to tell him you are a vaper, just tell them what is wrong. I would, however, tell him you are a former smoker as this might make him take your chest pain more seriously.

If your chest pain is ever coupled with even a slight shortness of breath and/or dizziness, go to the E/R immediately.

If I were you, I would stop vaping for a while until you can get to the bottom of this. This could be a serious problem, vaping related or not.

The last person you want to lie to or leave out information from is your doctor. What is wrong with you?

 

[Electrodave]

There sure have been a lot of these sorts of threads lately.

It needs to be pointed out that vitamin E acetate won't mix with either VG or PG.

Also that doctors are better at diagnosing your symptoms than a bunch of vapers in an anonymous internet forum.

 

[Georgia Boy]

Hate to tell you, but there STILL is not enough data to prove how harmful or unharmful vaping is. Nor is it possible to tell if you might have an allergic reaction to vaping.

No one on the internet can effectively help you with a medical matter. Also, no one here can tell you if you are stressed out or what you are stressed out about or if that stress is causing medical issues or difficulty sleeping.

You could have a lung issue that is exacerbated by vaping, but not caused by it, but how could anyone on the internet know?

Please see a doctor. You don't have to tell him you are a vaper, just tell them what is wrong. I would, however, tell him you are a former smoker as this might make him take your chest pain more seriously.

If your chest pain is ever coupled with even a slight shortness of breath and/or dizziness, go to the E/R immediately.

If I were you, I would stop vaping for a while until you can get to the bottom of this. This could be a serious problem, vaping related or not.

Geez really there is more than enough evidence that Vaping is safer than smoking.

Go see your Doctor tell him everything that's going on with your symptoms and in your life please.

Anyone who doesn't tell their Doctor absolutely everything is a fool, no doubt's about this. For anyone to suggest that someone not tell their Doctor everything, is crazy, it's so wrong, you should be ashamed of yourself.

I had a few days with these exact sleep symptoms, saw my Doctor TOLD HIM THE WHOLE TRUTH, he ran some tests. In the interim he asked if I was allergic to Benadryl, which I wasn't he told me to take one an hour before bed. Worked like a 'dream' no pun intended. Test came back negative and everything continues to improve in my overall health since switching.

 

[englishmick]

For what it's worth Bucc.

You're an adult. You get to make your own decisions about when it's time to go see a doctor. You are entitled to come here and ask what people think, gather any information you consider useful, and use your own judgement about what to do with it. Sure you won't get a medical diagnosis here, but you will get a flood of dogmatic opinionating.

Hope something in this thread was useful to you.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

Anyone who doesn't tell their Doctor absolutely everything is a fool, no doubt's about this. For anyone to suggest that someone not tell their Doctor everything, is crazy, it's so wrong, you should be ashamed of yourself.

I said that in case the OP is afraid to go to a doctor because of fear of telling doctor about his vaping.

If fear of telling a doctor everything keep's one from going to the doctor, then it's best to go to the doctor and not tell everything. Going to the doctor is still useful.

If I contract lung cancer but never told my doctor I worked in a coal mine for 20 years, does that change the fact that I have lung cancer or the doctor's ability to diagnose/treat it?

Is being 100% truthful best? Well of course it is.

But again, one should never take medical advice from an internet forum.

Also, 10 years is a drop in the bucket. Vaping is still an unknown.

 

[Georgia Boy]

I said that in case the OP is afraid to go to a doctor because of fear of telling doctor about his vaping.

If fear of telling a doctor everything keep's one from going to the doctor, then it's best to go to the doctor and not tell everything. Going to the doctor is still useful.

If I contract lung cancer but never told my doctor I worked in a coal mine for 20 years, does that change the fact that I have lung cancer or the doctor's ability to diagnose/treat it?

Is being 100% truthful best? Well of course it is.

But again, one should never take medical advice from an internet forum.

Also, 10 years is a drop in the bucket. Vaping is still an unknown.

Go back and read your earlier post nowhere does it mention "I said that in case the OP is afraid to go to a doctor because of fear of telling doctor about his vaping".

You may well have meant that but the more information you give the better.

You actually said "Please see a doctor. You don't have to tell him you are a vaper, just tell them what is wrong. I would, however, tell him you are a former smoker as this might make him take your chest pain more seriously"

 

[Seiggy]

Congrats on your 5 months. I quit back in Jan. 2012 and around the 5-6 month time frame I also had some sleeping issues. Turns out that I had so much more energy that it was affecting my sleep. You know what I mean, Brain tired but Body wanted to keep on going. On the other hand as others have said, it would not be a waste to discuss with your doctor about a Smokers CT scan. It's simple and quick and gives you a base line or diagnosis. Reason for this last comment, did the same in Feb. 2019 due to some issues and it turn out I had the Big "C". Good news is at this time I'm about 70% clear. And to note, I've been vaping all during the process and my lungs don't seem to be affected according to my doctor. Yes my doctor knows I vape and is OK with it. He also said that he wouldn't talk about my weight gain but last visit he teased me about a diet. Congrats and good luck.

 

[Georgia Boy]

The other thing I did was a spirometry, this test measures the amount of air the lungs can hold. The test also measures how forcefully one can empty air from the lungs. I get it done every 6 months, amazed that mine has risen by about 20% in this last year.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

You don't have to

Exactly, I never said or suggested "don't tell", I said, "you don't have to", meaning "it's up to you, but you need to see a doctor".

The OP should be smart enough to figure things out for himself. I don;t have to explain the thoughts and reasons behind every word I type. This is not a court room!

If you read "between the lines" it's obvious what I meant.

Again, I cannot stress it enough, don't take medical advice from the interwebs! lol

 

[AvaOrchid]

Hi all, it's been 5 months I quit smoking and switched to vaping, I want to thank you all for helping with my questions during my early days and suggesting me a good kit. Here is how I feel now.

As we are hearing lot of vaping related sickness issues I was in a dilemma for last 2 months if this is really gonna hurt me or I am fine. I get small pain on left front rib cage side when I vape recently. I am not sure if I am over thinking about news and that's causing me doubts.

And also i used to sleep fine for first 4 months of vaping, for last 1 month I did not get a good sound sleep. Is this anything to do with vaping or am I stressed about some job/other issues.

As always thanks for your suggestions.

I do understand why you would be concerned. As far as the vaping related illnesses so long as you are not vaping THC out of black market carts you are not at risk of Contracting the illness that has been on the news and that the CDC has investigated. There are some individuals who claimed that they purchased their THC carts from a legitimate seller however I think there's enough reason to doubt that. For an abundance of caution it would be extra cautious not to vape THC that does not come with batch numbers and testing and really stringent supply chain information. As far as nicotine vaping goes there were some who claim to have only used nicotine and not any THC. The CDC upon further investigation found that a large percentage of the 11% I think it was that claimed that were not giving the full truth. In some individuals they were unable to find out for certain that the person was indeed telling what amounts to lies to protect themselves from repercussions related to THC possession and use. In one area when the CDC delved further into it 9 out of 11 cases they found out through friends or other medical records that the person had vaporized THC or was regularly using it but unfortunately felt that the negative consequences to admitting to that were worse than the potential for serious impairment and death. Many of the cases that were attributed to vaping related causes were classified well after the person was sick. Sometimes it was classified 4 months ofter the illness so at that point when the CDC goes to investigate there's no longer any accurate way to test for THC in the person's body seeing as how it's been 4 months since they were sick or two months or whatever so in those cases they can't prove without a shadow of a doubt that it was THC related or THC Black Market cart related but with all the evidence you really can believe that it's all related to Black Market carts with THC in them. The reason why this is not a concern for nicotine vapors is because there is no good reason to add vitamin E acetate into e-juice with nicotine. The e-juice is thickened with vegetable glycerin which is much cheaper and likely easier to access than vitamin E. Therefore there is absolutely no gain to anyone even someone making stuff in their backyard for profit to add vitamin E it's not profitable. With THC it is, people have learned that the thicker THC juice is better quality or more potent THC oil is expensive much more expensive than vitamin E acetate so it does make sense for an unscrupulous person to add vitamin E to make a THC cart seem like it's better quality.

 

[vaper1960]

About the sleeping issue... vaping late in the evening can cause this (the nicotine) It stimulates your brain... add to this caffeine (coffee, energy drinks, even lots of some sodas) The combination will really spin you out. I have two cups of coffee a day (I'm used to it) but if I have a third cup and vape too much before bed I can't sleep. Best solution is to vape lower nic juice in the evening (it helps to have an extra tank for this) The ideal solution (for me) would be high nic in the morning, medium during the day, and low in the evening (all in separate tanks)
About the pains... could be anything (might not even be lung related) I have an issue with my colon where it bends (located just under left lower ribs) Even gas pains can cause this. Up higher could be heart related. Like everyone says, we are not doctors, but many people automatically thinks things are vaping related... could just be coincidence. How much do you vape? How many ml a day and what nic strength? Don't laugh (I'm actally being serious and most people don't like thinking about this) but it could even be a tapeworm... more common than you think (from undercooked meat)

 

[chanelvaps]

I hate that so many criticized him for coming here and asking. Sure it is always wise to see a DR but maybe he/she is just trying to feel things out and see if others experienced any of the same.
I feel a lot of answers came forth re: the sickness that came forth and was attributed to vaping.
As for the not sleeping. I have restless times and then times of sleeping well. I do not think vaping has changed things for me.