My vape shop doesn’t carry cotton anymore!??

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Use a lot of rayon, but still also use organic cotton balls. As mentioned already, just unroll them and cut to length. It works great and is about the least expensive cotton you can buy. I've been vaping for years and still have the original bag, along with a near-full pack of Japanese pads and a HUGE box of rayon from Sally's.

I'm all set on wicking material. My wife can use it for kindling when they cremate me.
 

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There are three vape shops in the area where I live here in the UK, and none carries kanthal /SS wire, cotton or cellucotton. Nor they have any RTAs, only some tinies of 2 ml drop in tanks.
With the mesh I use, a 2 ml tank is good for three drags, ridiculous.
Shopping for "specialistic" Vape gear, like wire and cotton, is mostly limited to some online outlets.
Also, these vape shops do not encourage TC vaping.
 

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Shopping for "specialistic" Vape gear, like wire and cotton, is mostly limited to some online outlets.

I don't really consider wire and cotton to be specialist vape supplies as a lot of other folks use this stuff too. The wire I use is Kanthal and stainless steel, my cotton is KohGenDo and Muji and I sometimes use Rayon.

I am able to get the first two of these in Canada from vape suppliers like Zivipf.de in Germany for wire and Fasttech.com in China for cotton. Other good organic cottons can be had from a local pharmacy or beauty supplier. Rayon can be had in Canada and the US really cheap from beauty supply shops like Sally's. There are a bunch more suppliers for this stuff out there too.

Yes, most of the suppliers I use are online only, but not all and you may be able to find local suppliers for your stuff if you know what to look for and figure out where to find it.

Also, these vape shops do not encourage TC vaping.

TC vaping is not necessary, but can be beneficial for some people. Once you know how to get a good, safe vape without TC it IMO becomes almost irrelevant. And sometimes TC gives folks a false sense of security that they are safe when they are actually not. I switched from smoking to vaping back in 2012 on hardware that makes our TC vapes of today seem way safer, but it worked for me and variable wattage setups are pretty much all I use today.
 

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They're idiots imo, my vape store makes probably more money from rebuildables than anything else. Took me a while before i could buy a drop solo for one. They do have plenty of cotton aswell fortunately for me.

I would think they make more with drop in coils and pods. I think they made good money when they made in house complex coils and installing them for folks, but thanks to the deeming regs I haven't seen a shop willing to do any sort of work like that anymore.
 

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Yeah, every time I get in there, I am pushed hard to try some "just arrived" new juice.
Problem is, label on the bottles of the juice they push do change every time, but the juice inside is always concocted with the same dozen of base flavours.

And the price is the same of Dinner Lady, 12Monkeys and all other top quality ones.
It is overly true that the most profit in vape world is from juice; it is the only item on which dealers are not racing to discount, and has kept the same price since I started vaping more than six years ago.

It is the price and the amount of juice used, that is making me come back from mesh coils; they use an insane amount of costly juice, I'm still deciding if to keep using them.
 

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Time to leave that shop. I left mine since they are way overpriced then they won't carry any nic over 6mg. I vape 6 and 12mg.
You can find cotton about anywhere. Go for organic. Then start looking online for your products. My closest B&M that carries decent vape supplies is now 45 miles away and about an hour or so fighting traffic vs online and a few days wait.
I just cannot believe your store stopped selling cotton of all things. The store may not survive if only catering to pods, etc. Just my thinking. ...:(
 

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I would think they make more with drop in coils and pods. I think they made good money when they made in house complex coils and installing them for folks, but thanks to the deeming regs I haven't seen a shop willing to do any sort of work like that anymore.
Yeah over here they simply can't, in fact there's a lot of useful and important stuff they cannot do (like installing coils)

Nb: i should point out that anything involving touching our vape ia forbidden to them for insurance reasons,or so that's what i understood.
 
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A vape shop selling cotton and wire is like a restaraunt selling uncooked bacon and eggs. The money is in selling customers already cooked items.

Where I live we are fortunate to have an old school shop who sells wicking and coil materials. They also have how to classes. As you check out they'll always ask "need any juice today?".

Pods are really becoming popular. And they are probably here to stay now that Innokin, Vapresso and others have begun selling some forward thinking tech loaded, durable items at competitive prices.
 

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Hardly any stores sell anything for rebuildables around here anymore. Drop in coil tanks and pod systems are mostly what they carry now.
Drop in coils and pods are where the money is at; quadruples profits over selling wick and wire and there is minimal learning curve.
 

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Drop in coils and pods are where the money is at; quadruples profits over selling wick and wire and there is minimal learning curve.
True. There is return profits with drop in coils. If someone knows where to shop they won't be coming back after the initial purchase of an RBA. It also cuts liability. Rebuildables and Mexhanicals give people the freedom to do pretty much whatever they want and I have seen people do some stupid things with them. Most of the stores around here are doing away with building stations as well.
 

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sorry to say that your shop is....lack of better word...crap
they are just going with the fad and like such they will be out of fad and business

I could understand if they just didn't sell enough to really keep it in stock, but to blatantly say that they will only be marketing towards pod systems...that's really bad business ethics...

as for cotton, you can buy it cheap online depending on what you like

I bought a huge bag of muji cotton for $6 (there's enough cotton there to last me at least 3 years easily, probably a lot longer)

looks like you need to take your business elsewhere, that's just a shame
 
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sorry to say that your shop is....lack of better word...crap
they are just going with the fad and like such they will be out of fad and business

I could understand if they just didn't sell enough to really keep it in stock, but to blatantly say that they will only be marketing towards pod systems...that's really bad business ethics...

as for cotton, you can buy it cheap online depending on what you like

I bought a huge bag of muji cotton for $6 (there's enough cotton there to last me at least 3 years easily, probably a lot longer)

looks like you need to take your business elsewhere, that's just a shame

But you yourself just made a good argument in support of shops doing exactly what they are. You bought enough cotton for $6 online that will last years. Can a B&M store compete with Amazon for such a narrow margin product? Same for spools of wire. 100 feet from Temco for $5 free shipping.

Now when a shop could coil the wire, mount and wick it for you for a fee it made money and improved customer interactions. But they can't do that anymore so why would they possibly want to stick items like that? As for stocking pods, well, that's a smart business practice as more and more sales are moving in that direction. You can even buy high end pod systems with DNA chips in them. Not moving in that direction wl probably put them out of business.

One of the most well regarded manufacturers of vape mods, Provari, closed up shop in large part to the then new regulations bring released, and a market that passed them by with higher power multiple battery mods gaining in popularity while they stick to their lower power boards and mods because that's what they were good at.

It's difficult for any small business in any area of the economy to get by these days. Vape shops are having a tough time of it. Some may survive, many won't. Each will pursue what they think will sell best to their clientele. If it's pods, that's what they'll sell. If it's high powered mods with tanks using triple mesh coils that's what they'll stock. It makes life inconvenient when they don't have what you need in stock, but those decisions are driven by the marketplace.
 

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But you yourself just made a good argument in support of shops doing exactly what they are. You bought enough cotton for $6 online that will last years. Can a B&M store compete with Amazon for such a narrow margin product? Same for spools of wire. 100 feet from Temco for $5 free shipping.

Now when a shop could coil the wire, mount and wick it for you for a fee it made money and improved customer interactions. But they can't do that anymore so why would they possibly want to stick items like that? As for stocking pods, well, that's a smart business practice as more and more sales are moving in that direction. You can even buy high end pod systems with DNA chips in them. Not moving in that direction wl probably put them out of business.

One of the most well regarded manufacturers of vape mods, Provari, closed up shop in large part to the then new regulations bring released, and a market that passed them by with higher power multiple battery mods gaining in popularity while they stick to their lower power boards and mods because that's what they were good at.

It's difficult for any small business in any area of the economy to get by these days. Vape shops are having a tough time of it. Some may survive, many won't. Each will pursue what they think will sell best to their clientele. If it's pods, that's what they'll sell. If it's high powered mods with tanks using triple mesh coils that's what they'll stock. It makes life inconvenient when they don't have what you need in stock, but those decisions are driven by the marketplace.
I agree with that but....just seems...I donno.... to tell your customers that you're no longer going to cater to them...
I understand pods are big right now, but how quickly will that phase out? I'd think that they'd want to be able to cater to both pods and mods... especially if you already have clientele purchasing them from you...
like I said I could understand not keeping cotton (or even wires) in stock if they don't sell that often but to then also ditch everything else to exclusively sell pods....just doesn't seem like a good business idea...but then i'm under the same rule of thought that gas stations should be able to sell mods ;)
 
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I agree with that but....just seems...I donno.... to tell your customers that you're no longer going to cater to them...
I understand pods are big right now, but how quickly will that phase out? I'd think that they'd want to be able to cater to both pods and mods... especially if you already have clientele purchasing them from you...
like I said I could understand not keeping cotton (or even wires) in stock if they don't sell that often but to then also ditch everything else to exclusively sell pods....just doesn't seem like a good business idea...but then i'm under the same rule of thought that gas stations should be able to sell mods ;)

I honestly don't think pods will phase out.

They are in fact the future. We are the dinosaurs.

I think convenience wins hands down, for the greatest majority. That we sit around and fiddle with coil building and ejuice making makes us, in fact, odd.
 
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