Mythbusters!!!!!

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Kattdaddy

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Targeting current affairs programs such as Dateline NBC or Panorama in the UK would be a far better idea, entertainment programs tend to shy away from anything remotely controversial where the programs mentioned need that controversy for the headlines.

Yes.. I would agree that those are far more serious minded programs.. but they do not and will not conduct testing - they simply report on those who do.. So, to speak, I would say get this thing kicked off the right way in the net works and let Dateline, 60 minutes, MSNBC, Panorama, BBC, any news affiliate that wants to be involved... have a principle role in coverage as long as they also have a stake in sponsoring research funds to ensure it can be conducted with every practical measure supported to fully appreciate the goal of testing outcomes to its full potential. For once these greedy networks can function to actually support an issue rather than only reporting the negative side of an issue because the negative side is what they make the most money of off.
Ironic isn't it... How money made off of the bad can all of a sudden feed the good... but I guarantee they won't do it.. We already know what the outcome will be because we already experience it everyday, as vapers. The government just cannot make enough money off of it as is to support it unless they can take total control of it. There is not a news broadcasting company on this panet that is going to take the lead against the government on this because it would ruin them in the end, at least in the USA. They would be shut down in a heart beat and bankrupted because Big T and Pharma make the US too much money... hence, Death reigns the world and Money buys your ticket to the show. Even the President of the United States would make his own mother continue smoking coffin nails in her death bed rather than face the citizens of this country to tell the truth. I assure you he has all the data necessary to understand what the FDA, Big tobacco, and Big Pharma are doing and I would not be surprised to find that Mr. Obama himself uses an E-cigarette by choice.

F#% the government, F@$ big tobacco, F#%% big pharma, and F#@$@ the President of the United Sates if he is just going to sit on his ... and let the FDA kill its citizens. Vapers Unite, We will not stop without a fight!!!!!
 

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You have to take into account what it looks like on a forum when a bunch of NEW users (who obviously organized elsewhere) start to show up en-masse posting about a special-interest topic and nothing else. It just seems fishy and spam-ish, no matter how well-intentioned it may be.

Even if you got every single member from here to go post on another forum, I don't think just the sheer number of (new) posters would sway them to do what you want, and it may even be counter-productive. If they did respond positively to such tactics, then word would get around and they'd have all kinds of special-interest groups flooding them with similar campaigns.

Just sayin'...
 
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cant evin go through the first page without getting ...... its so rediclous how people think they want proof that e cigs are healthier let me be that i use to smoke 2 packs a day and the first day i started with my ecig i never touched a analog didnt ever want to quite either love smoking but after 5 deaths in one year and switching jobs to more active manuel labor i had to i walk about 5 miles a day at work now try to get me to do that when i was smoking and not vaping sorry but theres my proof waking up and not coughing in the morning for a good three hours not couching while im sleeping and not snoring being able to do active stuff and not feeling like im going to have a heart attack thats enogh proof for me plus there is plenty of us out there that know this we are the proof i think
 

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I just had a thought I'll share since I rained on the parade a bit in my last post.

With the swine flu in the news so much these days, maybe you could get more media interest playing up the angle of the studies that have indicated that PG vapor could be used to prevent the airborne spread of the flu and other viruses and microbes.

The use of PG in e-cigs could just be a tangential topic, that way the subject would have a mass appeal, and not just be interesting to smokers/vapers. The more you can tie it in with current events, the better the chances will be of getting any media interest.
 

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I can't believe how often I see defeatist attitudes here. Obviously a bunch of first time posts will be seen as an effort from an outside group. And it will still put the idea in their heads regardless of that fact. Nothing is going to happen if you all sit around doing NOTHING! And really you can still sit around and do nothing while taking the gargantuan effort to type in your email and then go click a link they send. No wonder smokers have been so abused ... they don't seem to mind much.

OK, feeling ...... yet? Go post!!!
 

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I would feel bad posting on a shows forums that I've NEVER seen before. I have shotime premium channels for my verizon fios service but I've never seen that show in my listings before. Kinda weird.

Don't feel bad. I posted on the P&T thread and I don't even get showtime. :)

Any way we can spread the word is good, no matter how spammy it may seem.
 

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The impact that this segment would have on the community would be shocking. Millions of people watch Mythbusters, and millions of those smoke. Just think about the positive feedback this would get when they prove that smoking is much more harmful than vaping.

Here's wishing for a segment.
 

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I honestly think this is a little above mythbuster's level. We need at least some kind of serious medical study. mythbusters cant do that. maybe it could bust one small misconception, but it couldnt give an authorative statement on the total health comparison between the two.

I love the Mythbusters, but things being above their level has never stopped them before. Remember the moon landing episode? :D

At any rate, I think any (fair) piece by them would still do nothing but good for the e-cig community. If nothing else, we need all the positive attention we can get, with Big Tobacco and the FDA twisting words to make vaping look bad any way they can.
 

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some have mentioned a supposed "family-oriented" aspect of Mythbusters as a reason that they would not cover PVs. I just want to say that I've seen an episode before where they tested the claim that drinking alcohol in an extremely cold environment will keep you from getting hypothermia. It ended up being false, but they did sit there on camera in a huge walk-in freezer drinking some sort of liquor. So idk about whatever "family" stuff you're thinkin ;)
 

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The impact that this segment would have on the community would be shocking. Millions of people watch Mythbusters, and millions of those smoke. Just think about the positive feedback this would get when they prove that smoking is much more harmful than vaping.

Here's wishing for a segment.

I would also like to point out that of those millions watching.. and the smokers of course, a sponsored plug from this forum can be advertised for them to go to for information. This community can grow exponentially from this and the sponsored network of vendors on this forum can get involved to make this happen. They stand to make quite a bit of customer base from this just by getting the ball rolling on informing the public.
Those of you following this thread that personally know or deal with the vendors on this forum should seek their involvement here. If we can bring this to light, maybe get the vendors and any sponsoring that we can, this will benefit us all.
 

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i dono if anyone has brought this up. and i think we all know that advertising tobacco on tv is illegal. i can foresee hundreds if not thousands of people calling into Discovery complaining that the PV is a form of smoking.
(ARGggg ALL THE STUPID PEOPLE)
i dono.. i know my parents would call them up and say something.
now dont get me wrong, this is somewhat a good mith to bust. but i thnk this would also give us a bad rep.
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I love the Mythbusters, but things being above their level has never stopped them before. Remember the moon landing episode? :D

At any rate, I think any (fair) piece by them would still do nothing but good for the e-cig community. If nothing else, we need all the positive attention we can get, with Big Tobacco and the FDA twisting words to make vaping look bad any way they can.

It's interesting that you bring up big tobacco trying to make vaping look bad, I would think Big Tobacco could make alot of $ on vaping, could you imagine if Marlboro stamped their name on a ecig, or made their own carts? They'd sell a million of them
 

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"smoking an aerosol cocktail of alcohol, antifreeze and nicotine is not healthy."

I read this and lmfao :rolleyes:
Is the gene pool really that thin?

I also like how they twisted this around. Just because antifreeze and e-juice contain a common ingredient doesn't make it the same.
It's like saying that since antifreeze contains water and coca cola contains water, coca cola must be antifreeze....
 

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I don't think it is even a matter of them containing a common ingredient. PG is used as antifreeze in animal feed in colder climates. Anything that lowers another item's freezing point is antifreeze. It doesn't insinuate that it has anything to do with that stuff you put in your car. Vodka is antifreeze ... there are probably good reasons not to drink it (which doesn't seem to stop most of us) but nobody every complains about it being antifreeze.
 

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Just because PV's contain PG does NOT make them equivelent to antifreeze. Here is a list of just a few things that contain PG:

Propylene glycol is used:

As a solvent in many pharmaceuticals, including oral, injectable and topical formulations. Notably, diazepam, which is insoluble in water, uses propylene glycol as its solvent in its clinical, injectable form.[5]
As a humectant food additive, labeled as E number E1520
As an emulsification agent in Angostura and orange bitters
As a moisturizer in medicines, cosmetics, food, toothpaste, mouth wash, and tobacco products
As a carrier in fragrance oils
As an ingredient in massage oils
In hand sanitizers, antibacterial lotions, and saline solutions
In smoke machines to make artificial smoke for use in firefighters' training and theatrical productions
In electronic cigarettes, it is used to deliver vaporized nicotine
As a solvent for food colors and flavorings
As an ingredient, along with wax and gelatin, in the production of paintballs
As a moisture stabilizer (humectant) for snus (Swedish style snuff).
As a cooling agent for beer and wine glycol jacketed fermentation tanks
As a less-toxic antifreeze
As a solvent used in mixing photographic chemicals, such as film developers
In cryonics
As a working fluid in hydraulic presses
As a coolant in liquid cooling systems
To regulate humidity in a cigar humidor
As the killing and preserving agent in pitfall traps, usually used to capture ground beetles
As an additive to pipe tobacco to prevent dehydration.
To treat livestock ketosis
As the main ingredient in deodorant sticks.
To de-ice aircraft.[6]
As an ingredient in UV or blacklight tattoo ink


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Clearly there isn't enough interest on that site to get Penn and Teller to even cast a sideways glance at e-cigs. Barely a page and a half of posts on the thread in 10 days. Add to that the fact that although Penn and Teller are very entertaining, their show is anything but mainstream. It just ain't happening.
 
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