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Is the only difference with those, the manufacturer?
I dunno, don't know how much it matters.. I have read probably the same pros and cons on each of them..
Different manufacturer and the sigelei has an oled screen. I just read one quick review that said the sigelei is a little heavier, said it is a thicker walled tube...
I guess, lol.. Saw one that said Zmax Ultra. Think it was going for $100. I can probably find it tomorrow.
Alright....thanks for putting up with my million questions!
I'm gonna hit the sack......love you long time, boss!
From what i have read the ziegeli zmax is not much better then the vamo as far as construction, and seems to get about as many failures happen with it as the vamo.. from reading forums.. unfortunatly these chinese made mods are a crapshoot on construction some are awesome some suck... one of my vamos is a bit wobbly with the internal mechanics (chip, screen, button) while the other is compeltely solid feeling. I like that with the vamo it can be used in two size configurations full and mini that was my selling point on them along with the 50 dollar price tag. This is just my opinon though, no for mechanicals i havent heard much on the stainless steal bolts but the plastic ones are just plain crap, ya there 30 bucks but they not even worth that in my opinion.. I really do want to get a SB at some point and a provari I have only heard really good thing about either of those items but the price tags are pretty steep on both as well.. however i do have a birthday coming up 
and just whispered into certain ear what i want for my bd ....heheh and i just showed em to my honey if i get one of those my pv count will be 4 and i can also whisper another birdy into my mommies ear for a SB who cares if i get duplicates if they both get me a provari or SB thats just means i has spares OMG i am now really excited snicker ... BWAHAHAHAH evil plan hatched!!!
EDIT: busardo does have the ziegeli zmax review up now
EDIT 2: Bah Grimm Green is walking dead fan sigh.
and just whispered into certain ear what i want for my bd ....heheh and i just showed em to my honey if i get one of those my pv count will be 4 and i can also whisper another birdy into my mommies ear for a SB who cares if i get duplicates if they both get me a provari or SB thats just means i has spares OMG i am now really excited snicker ... BWAHAHAHAH evil plan hatched!!!EDIT: busardo does have the ziegeli zmax review up now
EDIT 2: Bah Grimm Green is walking dead fan sigh.
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From what i have read the ziegeli zmax is not much better then the vamo as far as construction, and seems to get about as many failures happen with it as the vamo.. from reading forums.. unfortunatly these chinese made mods are a crapshoot on construction some are awesome some suck... one of my vamos is a bit wobbly with the internal mechanics (chip, screen, button) while the other is compeltely solid feeling. I like that with the vamo it can be used in two size configurations full and mini that was my selling point on them along with the 50 dollar price tag. This is just my opinon though, no for mechanicals i havent heard much on the stainless steal bolts but the plastic ones are just plain crap, ya there 30 bucks but they not even worth that in my opinion.. I really do want to get a SB at some point and a provari I have only heard really good thing about either of those items but the price tags are pretty steep on both as well.. however i do have a birthday coming up
EDIT: busardo does have the ziegeli zmax review up now
EDIT 2: Bah Grimm Green is walking dead fan sigh.
All the best people are TWD fans....all others suck....IMHO..lol
Good Monday morning all.
Busy day again. Have to tear down the UNO hockey display at century link today. Should be epic.
Ain't that the truth!
Morning to you, as well! That DOES sound epic.. You should save me some!
No worries, pumpkin! I guess it was a Vmax ultra, not a Zmax..
I see.....I think I'm down to either zmax, Vamo, or tesla.....and then probably either the natural or a chrome bolt....for now......
Morning everyone....hope everyone has an epic Monday! I believe that is our word of the day........epic.....it's gonna be EPIC!!
Just remember that the Bolt isn't 100% mechanical, if that's what you are going for. Still checking on the tesla every other day or so and still no luck, yet. They swear it is going to get there, though..
Yeah, maybe I should just stick to a truly mechanical for now. I'm going to try and read a few reviews for the tesla today.
I ended up playing in the lab yesterday....I pulled my igo-l apart and decided to try ss mesh.......I've never popped a coil before.....I think I'm making up for it now......popped 3 coils yesterday and I still don't have the igo-l working again....I don't know if I need to oxidize the wick more or what.....hopefully mess with it more tonight
There really werent any mech mods around when I wanted one, well, without a $120+ price tag..had there have been the "clones" like there are now, I would have skipped the bolt
in those confines, there are probably a few possibilities for popping a coil..
mornin all, so i did it i dropped netflix as i have seen everything on it and was getting very disheartened to watch all the stuff i had in queue dissapear... I have now pulled the plug on amazon prime one price for 39ish bucks for a year since i am a college student over 7.99 every month and this way i get to watch start gate! WOOT marathon day for me
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