ned -Janty update to let you all how things are going

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ned Zeppelin

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update to let you all how things are going.
Well a bad taste was so persistent just wouldn't go away so this is what I did.
I put both atomisers is in some warm water swished them about four a while then drained them off. Then blow down them. Let them dry for about 30 minutes. Then poured some liquid down and then left them for 15 minutes.
The same burning taste was still present. I thought I would try the water being a lot hotter just so you can bear putting your hands in. drained them off blow liquid etc. I tried this no different.

This is where it gets interesting.

So I put more water in a bowl with hot water again I looked on the side and there it was cussons Carex original moisturising hand wash which has antibacterial moisturiser in it the one with blue liquid . I tend to use this a lot because of teaching children also it tends to get rid of odours bacteria .etc you'll be surprised how many schools staff rooms washrooms have this. That's why I have this in my home.


So I added three squirts from the bottle mixed with water put the atomiser in swished them around a little bit then I left them to soak for about 10 minutes. Then rinse them out in another bowl of warm water not hot. Then drained them left for about 30 minutes again then blow then a few more drops of liquid standard tobacco flavour. Which I normally use to moisture atomisers left that to settle for about 15 minutes.
So I put in a new cartridge sedansa by the way not Janty I will come to that a bit later on And hey Presto the burning taste has finally gone. So whether this is some sort of fluke I don't know .but also yesterday one of our
cheaper pen styles did have that bad taste appear so I've done the same routine with this one to. The bad taste has gone from this also.


So all of to day I have been smoking both Janty classics without bad taste.
So the warning is if you try this. It's on your own responsibility regarding the outcome. Don't blame me .this as just worked out for me at present and I was that distressed and desperate I was willing to try anything as it would only cost me the price of two new atomisers .


After actually calming down from yesterday's disaster looking closely at the fittings of these which still aren't great. By wriggling them about. As if you were holding a pen and trying to break in half they do tend to straighten up. Like you wiggle a battery that does not look straight in the atomiser. But then we should not receive products like this because of quality control.


to me using the manual switch suits me better. It does seem to be a strange hassle when you first start using it to press the button to drag on the cigarette. Then after a while you do tend to get quite comfortable doing this. Miss Diane hates this and at the present she just can't get on with either switch and says she's not getting the kick out of the Janty and tells me she's quite happily satisfied using the Smokesters pen style instead. So I think we need to train her regarding this one plus side benefit by me having four batteries instead of two now. I do think by using the manual switch its more controllable and less likely to get this burning taste because it cuts off quite nicely where the auto switch on these and the sedansa are quite lively and can be set off by just putting them in your mouth and don't cut off immediately after the drag as good as the manual switch.


I think also that I have found the other strange taste and smell at present which was like painted plasticky taste but really as I said yesterday hard to explain. But this has nothing to do with the burning taste.
I have come to the conclusion that it is the Janty cartridges tobacco flavour and Marlborough aren't like anything else that I used. I normally love Marlborough cartridges and I also have had several Marlborough liquid bottles which only tend to only differ in stronger or weaker flavour that's all but don't resemble these Janty ones.


So Janty cartridges seem to be different to your average ones. The sedansa normal tobacco high-strength cartridge tastes like your normal Marlborough tastes but I have got a sedansa Marlborough cartridge which I haven't tried as yet.


One thing that I have noticed when using automatic switch. When the battery light flashes to tell you to charge .if you put on that manual switch you still have more power left is that right? But at the moment I think one of the silver batteries might have a fault it works for a short while on auto switch. But to get the rest of the milage out of this is to put on the manual switch which then works fine.
I do think by having a manual switch on all electronics cigarettes would prevent a lot of our atomisers burning out as quickly as they do. As I find that I am not putting this in my mouth as often as I would normally with my others consciously knowing that I've got to press a button first plus the atomiser this way seems to be staying a lot cooler than normal .
So in all I personally have been getting on quite well with the Janty kissbox classics. I also like the feel of these in my hand nice and light and not to bulky like some other pen styles. Battery life is to early to judge yet seems to be pretty much as average as some of the others we have sept for one of the batteries but we will have to do further investigations into that one.


So far the only down side for the Janty is in the quality control chipped atomiser strait connecting parts yucky ducky cartridge flavours oh the chocolate ain't bad but saying that my cartridges might be a bad batch.
 

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When the battery light flashes to tell you to charge .if you put on that manual switch you still have more power left is that right? But at the moment I think one of the silver batteries might have a fault it works for a short while on auto switch. But to get the rest of the milage out of this is to put on the manual switch which then works fine.


Don't use it after it tells you it's discharged. Lithium batteries hate to be discharged to less than 2.2 V, it's just as bad as shorting them. Normal batteries have the protection circuit which will cut the overdischarge as well but the ones we have in e-cigs are not protected.
 

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I think also that I have found the other strange taste and smell at present which was like painted plasticky taste but really as I said yesterday hard to explain. But this has nothing to do with the burning taste.
I have come to the conclusion that it is the Janty cartridges tobacco flavour and Marlborough aren't like anything else that I used.
Came to the same conclusion myself both about the Janty and some 'tobacco' flavor juice that I had. I was wearing myself out with a sudden slew of problem (i thought) atomizers until I caught on that it was these tobacco flavors and nothing was wrong.

Thanks for adding the white space in your post, it helps me a lot.
 

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it aint wise to apply pressure in an attempt to straighten bendy parts ned.. the little brass thingies are likely to come loose or come completely out.. something for all to note..

also these batteries except the cigar and pipe one have built in protection circuits.. they do not just tell u they are flat they switch off.. they also switch off when the fully charged green light comes on...

leaving the buggers on charge after this point is a waste of time.. its getting boring keep having to say this but myths do hang around..

this is related to the catch fire safety thing ned.. the green light means OFF not f-cking leave on for longer to make sure..

red means charging is taking place.. green means no charging is taking place..

the purpose of the protection circuit.. to make sure the battery dosnt catch fire due to be overcharged.. and to make sure it isnt damaged by being run too flat..
the two end cut-off points are 2.7 volt then off.. 4.2 volts them off..

for the benefit of all OFF means f-cking OFF.. he he

trog

ps.. and if the dudes that sell these things say leave on for 16 hours its because they either dont have the faintest f-cking idea of what they are talking about or think the user is a fool and hasnt the sense to know what green means..
 
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trog100

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Green sometimes means half way and to keep going your almost charged but not quite. Hehehehe only joking!

he he he.. basically 80% of the charge goes in quite quick.. the last bit takes a while.. they dont have to be fully charged to work either.. fully charged simply means a longer run time.. 75% charge will work perfectly well simply for not as long as 100% charge..

trog
 

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trog it's just a slight wiggle I've done which makes them straight and not really putting any serious pressure when I did that because they go out of shape with the slightest knock anyway.
Does anybody know how long these Janty batteries are supposed to last?.
One of the batteries so far is completely shot. It reads that he is charged up in charger .when you screw it into the battery its dead
 

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Trog is right I guess, I have not had a problem once my green light comes on, it seems ready to go and keeps going nearly all day! Also unlike our old friends the Nicads, now we can stick our battery on charge no matter how much we have used in fact, sticking it on early can make the battery last longer!! Leaving a laptop or mobile phone plugged in for a long time does absolutely no harm whatsoever!
 

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Don't use it after it tells you it's discharged. Lithium batteries hate to be discharged to less than 2.2 V, it's just as bad as shorting them. Normal batteries have the protection circuit which will cut the overdischarge as well but the ones we have in e-cigs are not protected.

I understand what you're saying when on the auto switch it lets you know by blinking. So for instance if I have the auto switch on and the light start flashing are you telling me to then charged it up.? Then not put on a manual switch.?
So how can you tell if you have a manual switch on that discharges down more. Because there is no light on auto switch.
 

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Yep - normal white distilled vinegar. I just let it soak for 5-10 minutes in the vinegar - rinse it a few times with normal tap water and dried it by blowing through the atomizer. Worked out very nice - did not have a vinegar taste and performance was improved.

Another thing I also use is canned air - I blow the canned air through the part of the atomizer that connects to the battery and then blow canned air inside the atomizer - this also does a very good job - however, if you atomizer gets cold, I let it warm up to room temp. before I use it again.
 

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Yep - normal white distilled vinegar. I just let it soak for 5-10 minutes in the vinegar - rinse it a few times with normal tap water and dried it by blowing through the atomizer. Worked out very nice - did not have a vinegar taste and performance was improved.

Another thing I also use is canned air - I blow the canned air through the part of the atomizer that connects to the battery and then blow canned air inside the atomizer - this also does a very good job - however, if you atomizer gets cold, I let it warm up to room temp. before I use it again.

Thanks for the tip I will try that next time
 

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ps.. and if the dudes that sell these things say leave on for 16 hours its because they either dont have the faintest f-cking idea of what they are talking about or think the user is a fool and hasnt the sense to know what green means..

lol, even for the first charge? I just got my kissbox and i put the battery in just now to do the 16 hour charge, followed by the 4 hour charge, and after 30min its green already.. still 15.5 hours to go.. lol
 
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