Solution to Janty burnt taste???

[smoking gnu]

You reckon, I thought it was just my bad technique, lol. I'll contact them about it.

I got a Sedansa Diva a while back and returned it because I couldn't get it to work well. Since then I've become convinced that it was at least partly to do with my newbieness and bad technique.

Kate The diva I have, that really can take a lot of juice. So much so that you can hear the juice really bubble and it does not seem to flood. But I really don’t like the sound it makes, If it runs to dry then it burns the juice a little. I have found that this is very much a balancing act . I think the batteries on Janty and the diva give quite a bit of power and the atomizers get hotter. So I would try more juice, if it floods just wash it out then try again.

 

[Kate]

It seems to be working well for me now Gnu. I've been dripping directly onto the atomiser and as you say, it does need lots of juice. For now I've given up on cartridges, they give wispy vapour for me after a while and it's easier just to drip. It's taken me a while to get the hang of it but it's a nice 'smoke' now.

I regret sending my Diva back for a refund, I think I should have tried harder to get used to it. But whatever, I've got a Kissbox and bling now so I'm happy.

 

[leaford]

Yeah, this family of atomizers are thirsty puppies! Janty, Sedansa, ePuffer, and also KatyS and Jane. I can't think of anyone else with them. But they are the best vapor producers out there. Not that Puresmoker, Pillbox, Njoy, etc are far behind.

 

[smoking gnu]

Hi Kate. Hi leaford How much liquid do you put in to the Janty then Kate ? I still really cant drip with my diva, I have to top the cart every time, I’m getting a good smoke like that. But the amount of juice its getting is lots, but I don’t put to much in there because of the bubbling noise. I have never flooded it by topping though.

 

[SmokingInTexas]

I have migrated almost exclusively to dripping (pen styles). I find it more convenient than changing cartridges as I have to hang on to the old one, I have a little wet plastic baggie, etc. With dripping, I just use one of those micro bottles, two drips, done. I almost never flood the cartridge or have any leaking, but it took some practice and trial and error to get down the pattern.

For me, the biggest concept I was trying to achieve was consistency. I wanted good vapor all the time. With the cartridges, I found I got good vapor for a short time, but then had to constantly top off, or change (a half full) cartridge. With dripping, I have found that as the atomizer gets to be dry, the flavor changes subtly, so I stop and re-drip. It's kind of an art I guess, but I seem to have achieved some consistency.

Now I just need to stop smoking the thing so much.

(ooops, this thread was about the Diva, and i don't have one.)

 

[smoking gnu]

No mate this thread is about Janty. But I don’t have one of the yet. I’m just talking about what I do to avoid the burnt tasted with what I have. And I think this would also work with the classic kissbox. Any advice about dripping is good with me though. Cheers

 

[Kate]

I drip two drops at a time, any more than that I've found leaks through to the switch. If I get the bubbling, boiling sound I know it's got too much juice and I drain it, dry smoke a bit and try again. As Tex says, the flavour changes slightly when the atomiser is getting dry, the taste diminishes or gets burned and harsh. Then it's time for another couple of drips. I haven't measured how many puffs this lasts for. It's a good vaping experience with a fresh battery and the manual switch if you have one, vapour on demand, very nice.

There is a knack to it, but if you're used to esmoking you can learn quickly. If you have any old, half dead atomisers it would be a good idea to practice on those first.

 

[smoking gnu]

I’ve just tired what you do Kate, my diva will have none of it. very thin smoke, I put in a cart then I get lots. Diva by name diva by nature. lol

 

[Kate]

Lol, lots of them are divas, I know my Kissbox is, very fernickity. My bling on the other hand is easy peasy to use, no fuss at all.

If you still want to try dripping Gnu, maybe you could try drysmoking for a little while to dry the atomiser a bit. If it's too wet that can give you wispy vapour, it might be too wet to drip.

 

[smoking gnu]

I don’t know if this makes sense, but I’m getting better vapour with dripping if I use and empty cart with no wool to draw rather than just the mouth piece. How could that effect the way it produces vapour ? I should ask trog. There is probably some technical answer. Something to do with the way it heats or cools. I don’t knowWhere do you get the bling from?

 

[Kate]

I don't know why the empty cartridge works better than the mouthpiece alone, maybe something to do with restricting airflow.

Copied this from a post of mine on another thread:

If you wanted to get a Ruyan bling you can get the atomiser and LED cap from Wayne direct for $31 USD including UK postage - heaven_gifts@yahoo.com.cn I don't know how much he charges for cartridges.

You would also need a charger $12.58 (the ones that come with the bling kits aren't great) and batteries $4.32 - DealExtreme: $12.58 Ultra Fire 10440 14500 Ac Charger
DealExtreme: $4.32 Ultra Fire 10440 3.6V 500mAh 2Pack

So apart from cartridges you could have a decent bling setup including postage for $47.90/£26.06. You might also want to get extra batteries though.

My bling gives good vapour and tastes great with Janty and diy juice, I don't like the Ruyan cartridge taste. It's great value for money in my opinion but it is chunkier than an ecig and is covered with Ruyan advertising (although it's in Chinese and looks a bit arty). They are 14.5 cm long and 1.2cm wide.

You can see the blings here at Wayne's shop - eBay Store - ruyan: Genunie Ruyan: ruyan e-cigar

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/electronic-cigarette-reviews/2213-e-cigar-bling-2008-a.html

 

[trog100]

I don’t know if this makes sense, but I’m getting better vapour with dripping if I use and empty cart with no wool to draw rather than just the mouth piece. How could that effect the way it produces vapour ? I should ask trog. There is probably some technical answer. Something to do with the way it heats or cools. I don’t knowWhere do you get the bling from?

i cant think of a technical answer..

it shouldnt make any real difference.. but who knows with these things.. he he

direct dripping and getting the amount right works best with most of these things thow.. its just fiddly and easy to put in too much.. too much puts the fire out.. too little has the burn taste..

trog

 

[SmokingInTexas]

If I had to guess...I would suspect that the cartridge being used changes the internal pressure just a little. I have noticed that each of my pens has a personality. One likes a slow draw for max vapor, and another likes a quick hard draw for max. Again, that is probably a function of how fast you are drawing air a crossed the heater-coil. But I am really sure I can draw more air without any mouth piece, less with just the cap, and even less with a cartridge. (Haven't tried an empty cartridge though)

 

[trog100]

different devices do have different tastes.. pipes taste the nicest.. more mellow and less harsh and burny.. i think as a general rule the smaller devices like say a 901 heat up things in a smaller space.. the 901s i use all the time dont actually taste as nice as the bigger pipes and classics.. the 901s have a harshness about them the bigger devices dont have..

trog

 

[DQuick]

I have given up on the Kissbox Classic... When I received this the automatic switch and the USB battery were DOA.
I had these replaced and still the Kissbox only worked good for one day.
After the first day I was barely able to get any vapor at all...

I really wanted this to work good for me... but I guess I'll stick with my generic 4072 and 901b.

 

[Kimmiegrif]

I am beginning to like the harshness of the 901 to mimic the burning tobacco ciggy...but the pen draw on flavors for longer period of times...