need advice on my first kit

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moonlitharley

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When i first started searching i thought i would go with the apollo extreme kit but very quickly i realized this would be the wrong choice for me i want something longer lasting so i went into fatbat land now just trying to decide looking at kgo from sweetvapes, epower from crystalclearvaping, apollo vtube, totallywicked, and lavatube so still not sure outof those i know i dont want to have to drip all the time want longer lasting that way too not jyst in battery im not stuck on varible voltage just something i picked up on in my massive reading
 

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None of them would require you to drip at all, let alone all the time.

How long your juice lasts between refills has nothing to do with the PV you get.
The size of carto or tank you get will determine how much juice you can load up.

I'm not familiar with the fatbat. Sounds like an eGo/kGo variation?

Apollo V-tube and Lavatube are exactly the same thing. Only difference is the accessories include.
Apollo has a one year warranty. Not sure about Volcano.
Don't give too much consideration to the batteries they come with. They're generic and o.k., but the best battery for the Lava/V-tube is the 2250mah Panasonic CGR18650CH from orbtronic.com It's $10 shipped and destroys any of the other batteries, including the AW IMR that everybody recommends.

Unfortunately, you just missed the greatest deal, which was a stainless steel V-tube for $60 shipped. But, oh well.....

Anything on your list is a good choice, except maybe the fatbat, which I don't know anything about.

If you don't care that much about a variable voltage and it's in your budget, the absolute best is the Silver Bullet.

Later, you can get a "kick" for about $40 and turn your Silver Bullet into a variable voltage PV. Then you have something as good as the Provari for a lot less money.
 

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"... a variable voltage eGo battery with low-resistance eGo-T type B low resistance atomizers and some type B tanks will be the way to go."

Really? I'm not sure I could even follow all that.

Sorry, I'm not normally awake at 3:00 AM. I was up sick and made the regrettable decision of offering advice in my state of torpor. I've since edited my comment, so hopefully it'll make more sense now.

Unfortunately, you just missed the greatest deal, which was a stainless steel V-tube for $60 shipped. But, oh well.....

MyVaporStore sells a LavaTube for less than $50, and I think their standard 5% off coupon code even stacks with their sale price. They call their LavaTube the MVari-Stick. It's the typical aluminum tube with plastic end caps, though. You get what you pay for I guess.

I agree with your earlier comments about helping a rookie initiate himself into vaping with something small, economical, and low maintenance. Something to consider is that mods like the Silver Bullet and LavaTube add an extra step of maintenance in making sure the battery contacts are clean and thinly coated with Noalox or similar to prevent oxidation (unless he's going whole hog and gets a Precise Plus with its rhodium-plated contacts). Something like an eGo is easier for a rookie to maintain without as much conscious effort, since the battery is the PV.
 
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I would def go with an EPower or kGo to start. I think youd be really happy with either one and they would both give you what your looking for.
The PV your talking about from totallywicked is just a rebranded eGo-T. The eGo tanks can be very finicky and leak, plus they dull TH and flavor. If you want an eGo, get it elsewhere. Totally Wicked's kits are overpriced.

I think you'd def like the Epower or kGo more than an eGo though. The Epower/kGo are both 3.7V PVs while the eGo is only 3.3-3.4V. 3.7V PVs provide alittle more "oomph" and more importantly handle the lower resistance attys and cartos alot better than an eGo does.
I have an Epower and love it. I went with the Epower over the kGo bc I like that the Epower uses non-proprietary batteries, which are removable. Epower batteries cost $4-5 compared to kGo/eGo batteries that cost $14-20, and the Epower batteries last longer before they need to be replaced. The batteries are 1050mah and I get on avg a day to a day and a half on one battery. I also like that it's much easier to carry a spare battery. With a kGo/eGo, to carry a spare you have no choice but to carry a second PV with you. But with the Epower, since the batteries are removable, all you have to do is throw an extra battery in your pocket or bag and if needed unscrew the switch and pop it in. Also everything is replaceable on the Epower so it's cheaper to maintain, and you don't have to replace the entire unit Everytime something fails or you need to replace a battery.
The kGo is also a nice PV, even though it uses proprietary batteries. The batteries are 1100mah so they last a long time too, and most people can get a day on one battery.

Crystal Clear Vaping does have a good deal on the Epower, and thats where i bought mine, plus you get about $25 in free stuff. The only reason I would say to not get it from there though is bc their kit doesn't come with the newest switch, which is rated for 1.5ohms and up AND also has a 5-click on/off feature. CCVs kit has the older blue LED switch that is rated for 1.5ohm and up, but doesn't have the on/off feature.
Sweet-vapes.com has what I think to be the beat deal for the Epower. They sell the kit for only $41.95, which is cheapest I've found from any vendor. Their kit comes with the newest switch that has the 5-click on/off feature, and it comes with cartomizers of your choice (I would get the Boge 2.0ohm to start).
If your going to get the Epower, I would def get it from Sweet-Vapes.
If you want a kGo, Sweet-vapes also had a good deal on the kGo, or Hoosier Ecig sells the kGo for a good price and offers a metallic red unit, which might fit for what you were looking for color-wise.

Again, I think you'd be really happy with an Epower or kGo, and I don't think you can go wrong with either
 

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High Desert Ecigs has VV eGo batteries on sale for $17 through the end of this week. Coupon code ECF05 knocks another 5% off the total. Flat rate shipping of $5.

You should add the eGo USB charger to your order as well if you get these. I haven't looked to see whether they carry eGo-T attys and tanks though, but you can get those anywhere.
 
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I'm my go to gal for my dad when it comes to ecigs. He started out with a regular look alike cigarette but found he wanted more.

He just got the EGO from Madvapes.com and really likes it. I tried it out and I like it too. The only thing that bugs me is the dripping of the ejuice into the cartos. Since the cartos hold apx. 5ml of ejuice and it tends to leak out of the bottom when filling unless you put a ".... plug," in the battery side hole, it's a little annoying to wait to fill. Patience isn't my favorite thing when it comes to ecigs :)

If you ever feel like spending more money and investing in something you will love (assuming you plan on vaping for a long time) I can't help but recommend the REO. I went directly from the standard look alike cigarette to the REO mini and I couldn't be happier. There is a great thread for that if you want me to send it to you.
 

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The eGo-C seems pretty complicated for a rookie vaper. Have a look at Grimm Green's review. But as for which is better, they appear to be identical. Some shops rebrand Joye products. They're both manufactured by Joye, though, Totally Wicked branding or not. You can usually tell by the way the firing button looks. Joye batteries have an illuminated clear plastic button, whereas knockoffs generally have a chrome or otherwise metallic button.

Now, if you want to know whether a Joye is better than a non-Joye, that's up for debate. Joye makes great quality stuff, but they regulate their batteries at 3.4 volts. This makes for longer vaping on a small battery, but your vape won't be as hot, nor will your throat hit be as intense. On the other hand, knockoff batteries are unregulated, which means they'll start out at 4.2 volts on a full charge, then about half an hour to an hour before they're spent you'll start to feel a little less of a presence. It might all be a moot point when using eGo tanks, anyway, as the vapor gets cooled down quite a bit when it passes through the tank's twists and turns to get from the coil to your mouth, regardless of the battery you choose.

It just comes down to what's important to you: battery life or heat. In any case, I recommend getting type B tanks and atomizers if you can find them, as type B holds more than type A. I also recommend getting low-resistance atomizers.

I started out vaping on an eGo-T type B low resistance, and I highly recommend it as your first PV.
 
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MyVaporStore sells a LavaTube for less than $50, and I think their standard 5% off coupon code even stacks with their sale price. They call their LavaTube the MVari-Stick. It's the typical aluminum tube with plastic end caps, though. You get what you pay for I guess.

Yep. The stainless lavatube is radically different from the standard painted aluminum ones. Even the endcaps are redesigned. The top cap has the connector in a well, so it will even work with eGo type clearos, like a Stardust. It's really a whole 'nother animal. Enough so that I had to restrain myself from ordering it even though I already have a Lavtube.

I agree with your earlier comments about helping a rookie initiate himself into vaping with something small, economical, and low maintenance. Something to consider is that mods like the Silver Bullet and LavaTube add an extra step of maintenance in making sure the battery contacts are clean and thinly coated with Noalox or similar to prevent oxidation (unless he's going whole hog and gets a Precise Plus with its rhodium-plated contacts).

I have to respectfully disagree somehat. Anything with metal threaded pieces needs lubrication and an occasional contact clean, even an eGo. I've had my Baby Bullet (smaller Silver Bullet) for 2 years and I've used a pencil eraser on the positive contact to shine it up about 3 times. The negative contact is a brass spring. I've done nothing at all to it and it's fine. Cleaning a battery contact is nothing. It's certainly better than replacing an entire PV, like the eGo, every 6 months. I take 30 seconds to "erase" my contact every 6 months. Ego owners replace their entire unit.
 
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I think that with any new device someone has, whether you give your grandma or grandpa a computer and teach them how to e-mail or your parents get a smartphone after having a flip phone for their whole life and need to learn how to use it, it is all a process of learning. That might have been too deep but I just wanted to throw my two cents in the mix and explain my thoughts on everything new involving a process of learning. I had no idea what a REO was or what Noalox was or a firing pin or a catch cup or blind squonking but by asking questions and getting help I am now completely comfortable with my REO.

Oh lol and talk about a multimeter to read batteries and measure the cartomizers ohm reading! Holy cow that stuff scared me but I got through it and now it's a piece of pie. :)
 
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