Need an alternative to LiquidXpress Honey Flue Cured

[caughtus]

Just noticed this today:

11-20-2012, 11:04 AM
Hi everyone,


We wanted everyone to know about a recent development change at LiquidXpress. To keep this short and sweet, we have changed the lab which produces liquid for us. We still use the same flavorings, ingredients, and processes, but have changed to ensure our quality control and consistency issues are eliminated. Over the past year the consistency issues in batches we had come into our warehouse has grown worse and worse (most of our customers’ never saw the result as we would remove batches from inventory if we ever found or heard of a problem). This has led to shortages of liquid in inventory and lengthy delays in replacing those.



We hope everything will eventually be moved over, but if we have to eliminate some flavors all together due to the inability to recreate them correctly, so be it. To date, the original line liquids and the chiller line liquids are in our new facility, the indulgence line liquids will be moving over soon.


We have gotten a wide range of feedback, both positive and negative. Please know that we are doing this to continue ensuring that the consistency and quality of our liquids stay in place. Having said that here are some of the changes to expect and why:


Color difference: The main issue here is age of liquid, when LX makes batches of liquid, it can sit for upwards of 6 months. During that time some liquids darken and the taste becomes a bit bolder. Currently we only have new batches of everything, so they may seem lighter to you.


Nicotine Content: We have changed to have all liquids in 4 strengths: 0mg, 8mg, 18mg, and 26mg.


Bottle Sizes: We have changed from 10ml, 15ml, and 30ml bottles to 5ml, 10ml, and 30ml bottles. The reason for this is pretty simple. We wanted to be able to offer more 30ml bottles due to their high popularity and 5ml bottles so people could sample a liquid first if they choose to.


New Bottling: To update our lineup making it easier to ship correctly and to add an ingredient list to the box and the bottles.


Thank you all for your attention in this matter,


v/r


Rob

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/liquidxpress/352131-liquidxpress-news.html

 

[jerseydevil]

I saw that too. My last order came in new bottles/boxes and the hfc problems (taste, discoloration) were the same.

 

[yanks21]

but if we have to eliminate some flavors all together due to the inability to recreate them correctly, so be it . . .

 

[jerseydevil]

I'm going to give my recommendation for vapingzone's velvet fog as a substitute for hfc. Bear in mind it doesn't taste like lx's hfc, but I've had it about a week now and it definitely has a honey like tobacco flavor to it. More so out of my spheroid than my lr306, but a very good vape either way.

 

[caughtus]

I just ordered some Velvet Fog. I'll let you know what I think.
I've been using After Dinner D'lite and other Rum based juices.

 

[shatner]

Texas Select Vapor has a nice HFC.

 

[cags]

I try to have at least 3 favorite liquids.....all from different vendors.

just in case one vendor goes out of business (I miss joogler!) or changes the formula or whatever, then I have back ups without panic

 

[jerseydevil]

I've since found several new favorites. Bobas bounty from ave juice. Velvet fog, dark shadows, island tobacco from vapingzone. Oompa, gollum, gandalf from HHV....But still I long for lx's HFC, will always be my all time favorite, I plan on ordering some more soon in hopes it's been ironed out.

 

[Barefootin]

I bought a bottle of dekang honey and mixed with ecblends flue cured and it is amazing.

 

[jerseydevil]

Bees knees from AVE juice is like a blast of honey, I think mixing it with some original from liquidxpress would make a nice hfc substitute.

 

[Rictic]

I tried the HFC from vapingzone since reading this thread and it is pretty amazing in a mini vivi nova with a 2.6-ish ohm head at 4.2V. I tried it in an SR carto at 4.5V but it wasn't the same, you definitely get a more pure honey and tobacco flavor from the vivi. Honestly the more I vape it the less I miss my old HFC flavor I can no longer get. I tried both the DIY alcohol super concentrate and the pre-mixed. They're both very, very good, but I think I'm going to stick to the premixed. The DIY took a while to steep but the premixed was delicious right away.

 

[jerseydevil]

I didn't really get the honey taste from vapingzone hfc, but am loving several of their flavors, 50ml bottles this time around, which is awesome. Plus they have the fastest shipping times ever, hands down.

 

[caughtus]

I got the Velvet Fog. Tastes like the new HFC minus the honey. So immediately it rubs off the wrong way. I may try mixing something with it. But by itself, it's a nice smooth tobacco flavor.

 

[caughtus]

Unless they've changed something, VapingZone's HFC tastes identical to the new LX HFC. Like they use the same labs. I got the concentrated one, so I guess I could give the premixed one a try.

 

[caughtus]

I just talked to Rob. He says they have pinpointed the issue and are working on a resolution. Should be after the holidays.

 

[Buggs5347]

I've since found several new favorites. Bobas bounty from ave juice. Velvet fog, dark shadows, island tobacco from vapingzone. Oompa, gollum, gandalf from HHV....But still I long for lx's HFC, will always be my all time favorite, I plan on ordering some more soon in hopes it's been ironed out.

Can you describe what Velvet fog and Dark Shadows tastes like? It's disturbing that VapingZone doesn't describe those flavors. I do love many of their tobaccos - I mix my own from their super concentrates. I LOVE French Pipe, Island Tobacco, Dunhill, Black & Mild, Honey Flue Cured and Desert Ship. Real Cig and 555 are okay for a change. They have been a very good vendor to me.

 

[caughtus]

Velvet Fog is just a smooth tobacco. I suck at describing.

 

[Buggs5347]

Velvet Fog is just a smooth tobacco. I suck at describing.

Oh, I am too. I try but it would probably be best if i just said it's good or not.

 

[yanks21]

I just talked to Rob. He says they have pinpointed the issue and are working on a resolution. Should be after the holidays.

That would be the BEST Christmas present EVER.

Thanks for the update!

 

[jerseydevil]

I just talked to Rob. He says they have pinpointed the issue and are working on a resolution. Should be after the holidays.

Any updates on this? Really craving the best HFC ever.