Need help building a good setup

[Curt Kobain]

Hey guys. I'm pretty new to all these different vape styles and setups and have a few questions. I have a Boge atomizer/cartomizer with a not so good pass through 700 mah battery. My first question is what would be a good, affordable battery that I should look into getting? Second, the reason I said atomizer/cartomizer is bc the guy at the vape store called it an atomizer and i questioned his statement bc I thought it was a carto, then he said it's an atomizer tank with a cartomizer inside, or something along those lines. I don't really remember. So I was looking into atomizers vs cartomizers and found out that atomizers are way better. Is there anyway I can turn my tank into an atomizer or a dripping atomizer? Also what is the difference between the dripping atomizer and a reg one? I wanna blow clouds! Lastly, how do I make a sub ohm setup?

Thanks!

 

[swim]

i would say do some reseach into a good mod, either mechanical or variable wattage or variable voltage. from there you can experiement with the atty cartos rebuiltables etc.

 

[Curt Kobain]

I don't really know what to search that's why I'm posting this

 

[Scarey]

This is what I'm going to start recommending to everyone who isn't sure if they want to go into mods yet: Kanger Mini Protank 2 Starter Kit -VV

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Different delivery systems:- note bolded Atty, Carto, etc is the abbreviated form

Atomizer/ Atty- an element on to which 3-4 drops of juice is dripped- usually used for testing new juices because Attys are easy to clean. There are some diehard Atty users because it’s the best vape possible but very time consuming.

Cartridge/ Cart- a container with sponge (filled with juice) that is used with the Atty- juice drips on to Atty from filled cart and is vaporized- older outdated first “tank” system and prone to leaks unless the user is willing to buy extra seals and “fiddle” with them.

Cartomizer/ Carto- metal tube with stuffing and element. Holds anywhere form 1- 4 ml of juice. Carto is fully saturated and must be occasionally refilled when juice runs out. My Cartos last 1-2 weeks. Best Cartomizer I’ve found is the Smok Tech XL 1.7 single coil. Boge 2.0 ohm cartos will give a cooler vape. Always use single coil cartos with 3.3- 3.7 PVs for the best vape.

Carto+Tank- a Carto with a hole punched in it. Carto is than placed in a glass, metal or plastic tank which is filled with juice- juice saturates Carto by way of hole in Carto. My Cartos with a tank last, before tight draw occurs: light juices- 80-90 ml. dark juices- 50-60 ml.

Clearomizer/ Clearo- a plastic, glass or metal tank with a head (wick+ element). Contains NO stuffing. The rebuildable clearos come with heads (coil+ wick) that can be cheaply and easily replaced. When the head burns out simply unscrew the old head out and screw in new head- takes 10 secs.

 

[Saintwho]

I got the itaste svd... im happy with it. I don't know a whole lot about everything either so I am researching... but I am happy with the SVD. Must note that the first one I had was defective, burnt everything I put in it and lasted for about a month and a half. They gave me a replacement last week and so far so good. I am weary because its 100 bucks and lasted a month and a half tho... also the store said "this is your one free replacement" what happens if this one burns everything in a month? I am going to be ticked off that much I know.

Guess I should also note that this SVD is tough as nails as I kept breaking the evos it seemed every two weeks. In your pocket and sit down... broke, dropped on the ground getting out my truck... broke. SO in essence I think I made a good buy, but if this thing goes out and they wont replace it... I will go bezerk in their shop... but will still end up buying another nice one... maybe a nicer one that wont break by looking at it too hard.

 

[norcalmike]

im going to suggest you take the easy route and learn from you tube. I learned a ton of stuff. i spent a couple hours everyday after work watching vids from grimmgreen pbusardo and indoorsmokers. there were some other good ones as well but those were the better ones IMO. it doesnt take long to pick this stuff up. sit down in front of the laptop. get yourself a full tank and vape away while you surf the vids.
once i got the jist of it, i jumped on here, joined up and here i am taking my vaping to the next level.

 

[Curt Kobain]

Thanks for the info! So I guess I have a carto+tank.
I watched one video that was a half hour long and it did teach me a lot but I don't have time to watch more right now. So maybe an atomizer isn't the way to go since you have to keep topping it off. What kind of mods can you do to these things? I'm all about these types of hobbies. I am very interested in lowering the ohms. Btw I'm about to go buy a new battery in a few minutes. I want something at least 10 amps.

 

[Weizenheimer]

Make sure you have an understanding of how electricity and batteries work lest you blow your face off.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

The top few APV's on the market today, say under $100 would be (imho, YMMV):

1. iTaste 3.0 (VV/VW stick style battery)
2. Vamo (best value of any entry level APV)
3. MVP V2 - a lot of battery, though still only a 5 volt limit. Now with variable wattage, an ohm meter, fixed buttons and threads
4. Sigelei V3 - A telescoping stainless APV with a great menu system and nice electronics. Quality Build.
5. SVD - Less expensive than the Sigelei, but also telescoping, it is a good build, but not as sleek and elegant as the Sigelei
6. eVic - the eVic V2 is a nice APV with an upgraded chip. Enjoys more features than almost any other APV on the market, including USB/computer interface, and perhaps the best display in the market, at any price. The V2 (two head screws) is important. The V1's were prone to breaking. Not as well built as many of the others mentioned

You cannot go wrong with any of these APV's. I like the iTaste 3.0 and the Sigelei the best, and have all of these models. I would, at a minimum (since we need backups) get the iTaste 3.0 and the Sigelei. Great platform to add other gear onto. If budget controls the decision, the Vamo is hard to beat. Good luck to you and Happy Vaping!

 

[madqatter]

My first question is what would be a good, affordable battery that I should look into getting?

Bill's recommendations above are great.

Second, the reason I said atomizer/cartomizer is bc the guy at the vape store called it an atomizer and i questioned his statement bc I thought it was a carto, then he said it's an atomizer tank with a cartomizer inside, or something along those lines. I don't really remember.

Proper terminology - Is it a carto, a tank, or what? A Guide to Juice Attachments.

I wanna blow clouds!

PSA: Cloud Chasing is Dangerous

Lastly, how do I make a sub ohm setup?

Since you're admittedly new, I'd recommend working on some of the basics first, such as learning about rechargeable batteries and battery safety.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

^^^^You can't go wrong with Bill's advice as he's one of those rare individuals that has owned all the PVs he speaks of, is extremely knowledgeable, honest and wealthy enuff to buy all this stuff Just joking Bill my good friend...just received the MVP 2 and the Sigelei V3 and am very impressed. All thanks to your suggesting these PVs. Thank you kindly

 

[Thunderball]

The top few APV's on the market today, say under $100 would be (imho, YMMV):

1. iTaste 3.0 (VV/VW stick style battery)
2. Vamo (best value of any entry level APV)
3. MVP V2 - a lot of battery, though still only a 5 volt limit. Now with variable wattage, an ohm meter, fixed buttons and threads
4. Sigelei V3 - A telescoping stainless APV with a great menu system and nice electronics. Quality Build.
5. SVD - Less expensive than the Sigelei, but also telescoping, it is a good build, but not as sleek and elegant as the Sigelei
6. eVic - the eVic V2 is a nice APV with an upgraded chip. Enjoys more features than almost any other APV on the market, including USB/computer interface, and perhaps the best display in the market, at any price. The V2 (two head screws) is important. The V1's were prone to breaking. Not as well built as many of the others mentioned

You cannot go wrong with any of these APV's. I like the iTaste 3.0 and the Sigelei the best, and have all of these models. I would, at a minimum (since we need backups) get the iTaste 3.0 and the Sigelei. Great platform to add other gear onto. If budget controls the decision, the Vamo is hard to beat. Good luck to you and Happy Vaping!

Bill (Mr. Wizard)... it's getting to where if am late getting into a thread after you've been in it, theres just "no meat left on the bone" for anybody else !!

In other words OP, you cant go wrong with Bills list.

 

[Curt Kobain]

Ok guys so I ended up getting the sigelei v5 from my local vape store for 80 bucks. I really like it but I have some questions about the different settings. First, I was wondering what voltage people set theirs too. Right now I have it set to 5 volts. Also, if I remember correctly, the vape store owner described variable watts to be like a manual transmission (have to choose a gear) and variable volts to be like cruise control. So does this mean variable volts are better? Can someone explain this further? What do u guys use? Last, what is the difference between rms and mean? The manual says rms is recommended. Thanks again.

 

[madqatter]

I was wondering what voltage people set theirs too.

This depends on the kind and resistance of the juice attachment I'm using and the juice I'm using (some are thicker than others, some have more delicate flavors than others, etc.). The great thing about having variable voltage or variable wattage, or both, is being able to choose the setting that results in the best flavor and vapor.

A chart such as this can be a handy guideline when starting out. Let's say you've got a juice attachment with a coil at 2 ohms resistance. You might want to start at around 3.4 volts (which would be almost 6 watts), which is clearly in the "green zone," and gradually increase the voltage until you find the best flavor and vapor results for the juice you're using.

But remember this: the chart's "green zone" is a general guideline. The relationship of ohms/volts/watts is a matter of fact, but what tastes good varies according to personal flavor preferences.

Also, if I remember correctly, the vape store owner described variable watts to be like a manual transmission (have to choose a gear) and variable volts to be like cruise control.

He probably said that VV is like manual and VW is like automatic. I don't think this is the most apt analogy, personally, but I get what he means.

Go back to my example above. Let's say you're really enjoying a peach flavored juice on a 2 ohm coil at 3.8 volts (this is hypothetical, of course-- you'll have to find the sweet spot for yourself). That's just over 7 watts. Now imagine that you change to a 2.5 ohm coil because that's what you have handy, but you still want similar results from your peach juice. You could work your way up to about 4.2 volts yourself, or you could just set the device to 7 watts. When you set the wattage on a variable wattage device, the device figures out how much voltage you need to combine with the coil resistance to get the the desired wattage.

Sometimes people will say that variable wattage is a "set it and forget it" option. That's only true to an extent. If I know I like peach juice at 7 watts, I can set it to 7 watts and forget it. But I won't necessarily like a different flavor/brand/ratio at 7 watts. In that sense, nothing is "set it and forget it."

 

[Curt Kobain]

Thank u. I love my setup now

 

[Clarence Gulley]

I live and die by my Protank 2

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