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The Dog Guy

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For a beginner like yourself, I would go on eBay and search "18650 mech mod" and get a cheap clone of something (there's ones for $20), an 18650 battery (and charger), and a KangerTech Subtank Mini. You will not be disappointed. If I were to know what I know now (when I was in your position) I would have saved so much money. The regular "eGo" style Vape pens didn't do it for me. Once I got my first mechanical mod and the Kangertank, I completely went from 15 cigs a day (and vaping 18mg nicotine ejuice) to 1-2 cigs a day with 3mg nicotine juice. With the mod (battery) and your tank, you'll get the best taste out of your flavored eJuice and get really good vapor production too! (You can also search "box mods" on eBay too if you prefer those, which now I do.)

I personally have a TID MODS box mod (takes two 18650 batteries), with the Kanger Subtank Mini. It's amazing, but since you're new I'm sure you don't want to spent $150 on a mod :p. DM me for any other questions and good luck!

I don't think starting with a mech mod and a subtank is a great idea for a new vaper! Yes, you can buy coils, but you still need to understand Ohm's Law and all the "rules" of sub ohming. Just my :2c:
 

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everybody wants a cigarette (e-cig) to be a cigarette (analog) at first. most of us realize that's not realistic and move along. just ask the people giving you advice here what they use as their primary device and you'll see that very quickly.

you asked for honesty... and i'm BRUTALLY honest. (just ask steve when you ask him about his provari. :D)

so i'm going to give you 2 options. they're the options i start all the new vapers on and i've had 100% of them thank me for it.

first... provari v2.5
second... innokin mvp (in this case, 20 watt)

for the rest, check out the cartomizer and carto tank info in baditudes blogs... http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/6740-18-baditudes-blogs.html
 

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This place sure has terrific people, huh! Everyone seems so nice and they genuinely want to help you with the kind of advice and answers you won't come across anywhere else.

Back during xmas break I bought cigalike starter kits from GreenSmoke, NJoy Recharge, and Halo G6. GreenSmoke seemed like a nice, quality setup that worked well but I just didn't like the flavors of their pre-filled cartos. To me, NJoy wasn't very good at all and it didn't offer anything less than 2.4% nicotine. Those first two also wouldn't let you use your own ejuice and I'm sure they also would've ended up costing too much money for any type of long-term use. I returned both the GS and NJoy kits for full refunds. I'd never heard of the eRoll at the time or I probably would've tried it as well.

Anyway, I kept the Halo G6 and it's been wonderful so far. Fiddling with cartomizers can sometimes be a pain, G6 mini tanks are nice but seem to run a little hotter, and of course the small batteries need to be recharged often. But if you don't mind those sorts of issues and have decided you want an automatic cigalike, I have no problem recommending the Halo G6. I couldn't care less about blowing clouds and the amount of vapor I get from the cigalike is just fine for me.

You probably won't find much love for cigalikes here because it seems like all the more experienced vapers have moved on to bigger and better things. Granted, I haven't fully made the switch to ecigs yet and I'm now experimenting with different setups -- but I sure don't think the time & money spent on my Halo gear has been "wasted" at all.

Good luck with whatever you choose.
 

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you're welcome.

care to share your thoughts on your MVP?

FWIW, i think a VV4 is a great starter. though, for only one device, i'd rather see folks pick up the mvp and be sure to make it through any day on a single charge.

I love my MVP! Great battery life and definitely lasts all day. The drawback becomes the limit of 11w. The VV4 is nice because it does go to 15 and I find myself at 13-14 much of the time with my juices and the nautilus or mini nautilus. Withe the other tanks I have to stay at 10w or less especially the kanger Aero (1st gen). If I don,t its dry hit central and that sucks!
To be honest I'm ready to pull the trigger on the IVP mini 2 and A Kanger or Aspire Sub. I thought about the MVP3...that's a killer battery!! The VV4 1100mah isn't bad at all though...with the micro charging there is really no issue in charging it...I can charge it off of my MVP!!:laugh:
Tawney...After only a month I'm looking to move up, but the Innokin stuff is not obsolete and still keeps me off of smokes 100%!! I tried dripping off of a mech mod last week and The Cloud got me!!:facepalm:
I don't want to be dripping all the time though so it's a full sub tank for me!
 

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Hi, Tawney and welcome to ECF!

Your story brings back a lot of memories from when I decided to try vaping. I didn't want to have to push a button every time I wanted a hit. I didn't want to have to fill a tank all the time. I didn't care about all the different flavors, especially fruity or sweet flavors. I just wanted something easy and simple that would duplicate having a cigarette. And I didn't want to spend a large sum of money in case vaping didn't work out for me and quitting the cigs. I don't even remember what it was I was ready to buy, but for some reason I decided to travel to a vape shop and see what all my options were and I am so glad I did.

I got to see and try some different set ups and try several juices as well as finding out there were no juices that would be just like smoking. On an impulse, I changed my "wants" and went with something that would let me try many different juices in search of those that were most satisfying. At the advice of the store, I picked up a couple Kanger variable voltage pen style batteries. a couple Kanger T3d tanks, and a couple bottles of juice that I thought would be good. If I remember right, that ran me something just over $100 and should have given me at least a month of vaping with backups so I would never have any down time. I figured that was good enough to give vaping a good try at less cost then I would spend on the smokes. 3 days later, I had smoked my last cigarette.

Good luck and hope whatever you decide to start with works out well for you.
 

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She said she wanted: "an automatic cigalike."

Not a mech mod, not an 18650 mod, not a dripper, not a sub-ohm anything... AN AUTOMATIC CIGALIKE.

Andria

And re OP asked for honesty, which is what I provided. MOST people who try cigalike's move up to bigger and better things, because it's not as satisfying.
 

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I won an eRoll when they first came out. Since then I've bought two more plus extra batteries etc.. While I have about 40+ devices I still use the eRoll for hours on end as a hands free, sometimes more than my others during the day if I'm busy. I'm a chain vaper and it's not always convenient to have something larger or to have to use a button. It's also great for driving or out and about. I did increase my nic and keep a separate bottle for them but it's really a decent device. Matter of fact I'm puffing one now while both hands are typing. Good vapor production but the taste is slightly muted. Sure delivers the nic though. I've got nothing negative to say about them and understand the need for a cigalike, not only for a new vaper but as a seasoned veteran that leads an active life.
 

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I agree, I would get a MOD or an ego style battery with a Kanger tank with an adjustable airflow valve control. I use a an iTaste MVP v2.0 with a Kanger Protank 3 with an airflow control valve. I upgraded from a cigalike to an ego an ego style to my iTaste setup. But I think every battery is made in China, it's the juice that you want to be made in America. I'd recommend a Halo G6, I had a couple when I used cigalikes; they work good, they're automatic, and Halo sells the blank cartomizers for them.
 

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Tawney-
Welcome to ECF!

I am not a V2 rep and they are not paying me to say: V2 IS THE BEST!

I'm just kidding. They're rubbish.

They are rubbish as are most of the other cigalikes that prey upon smokers who are earnestly trying to find a way to quit smoking. if they have a value it's that using the cigalikes inspired many of us to look a little deeper into the vaping world because we thought "This could actually work if it didn't suck!"

It get's better. Waaaaaaay better.

I do not have the depth of experience to recommend an automatic, but I do know that there's seems to be very few. The eroll is the only one that comes to mind and I was not impressed with it. Having said that. I was a heavy smoker and didn't really quit smoking until I found the world of APV mods, RDA's, mechs and unregulated PV's. I like the thick vapor and MAX flavor that they produce. I'm not saying that's where you should jump to. Follow the advice of these smart folks above.

Part of our community's strength is that there are choices for us and ways to find our personal VapeVana and get off the realsies. There are millions of opinions and tons of good advice. Stay away from the blogs and the website "5-star ratings" and come here and see what these good folks think.

Good luck. I hope you find the vape that gets you off the stinkies.

I'll see you around the threads.
 

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She said she wanted: "an automatic cigalike."
Not a mech mod, not an 18650 mod, not a dripper, not a sub-ohm anything... AN AUTOMATIC CIGALIKE.
Andria

And re OP asked for honesty, which is what I provided. MOST people who try cigalike's move up to bigger and better things, because it's not as satisfying.

I wanted an automatic cigalike when I started vaping. So I got an automatic cigalike, a V2 actually. And I vaped that cigalike for almost two years while I was still smoking. I wish, before I bought my first cigalike someone would have said to me, "Wait, there's something better."

If OP doesn't want my experience or my opinion, that's fine But I thought I just said one of the greatest strengths of our community was that there were so many choices and folks dolling out sage advice and also the freedom to choose which was the best for them.

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Hang in there OP. You'll find what you're looking for on these threads. Guaranteed.
 
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I agree Cavenerd:) This is an amazing forum. I have learned so much from everyone on here and continue to do so. I remember how overwhelmed I was at first. So much to take in. We all wanted to get off cigarettes so badly and do it as quick and simply as possible. Oh and have it taste like a cigarette too. You quickly find out after poring over this forum, that it's not as quick and easy as lighting a smoke and tasting like one.

But thanks to the good people here, you find your way and gradually find the device and the juice that works for you. My favorite flavour is a s'more flavour and most used device is an Ego Vision Spinner. Go figure:laugh:

Tawney I hope you stick with it and every time you get discouraged, just ask for help from this community. They are the best!
 

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Hi, I am new and I am wondering if someone experienced and honest can help me. I say honest because after watching videos on youtube for the past 2 hours I've come to realise there seems to be a large influence of dishonest reviews driven by the companies that has left me completely confused, wondering if there is actually any product available that is reliable.

I was almost convinced to try V2 ecigs and Halo, but after looking at their Facebook pages, the feedback here is honest and not looking good. I need a company that isn't just re-manufacturing China junk to make a quick buck whilst throwing freebees for people to say "this is a good ecig" and make a BS video.

I am looking for an automatic cigalike, I think they call them.

Thanks in advance.


Hi Tawney and welcome to ECF!

I have been vaping for 5 years. I started with, still have, and am a die-hard fan of, the M401, which is a cig-alike. The M401 'automatic' battery is a bit longer than the sisters M402/3 battery. The M401 battery is a 280mah battery and runs around 2.7 volts. The attys run abt 2.5ohms. The vapor produced is adequate for public vaping. The advantages of the M401 is, the battery may last for more than 4 hours with light use, (I use 3 batteries per day) and the batteries and atomizers are very reliable. The disavantages of the M401 is it's not interchangeable with much else nowadays without adapters and nobody is really making the adapters any more.

A UK vendor is Intellicig. They have been in business for at least as long as I've been vaping and have an excellent reputation of standing behind their product:
https://www.intellicig.com/starter-kit.html

Parts can be a little harder to find than the newer, bigger, faster, flashier models, but you can always order straight from the manufacturer storefront, here, but bear in mind that there are other m series models and you only want M401 or M402 or M403:

Plenty of MSeries Accessories for Your E-Cigs


An alternative is a 510 model since much of the market is trending to 510 connections and interconnectivity. There's the E-Roll, produced by Joyetech, seen here, with pictures:
http://www.joyetech.com/product/details.php?gno=125

and here:
Joye eRoll Electronic Cigarettes, Starter Kits & Accessories by Joyetech

The disadvantage of the eRoll/eRoll-C is, Joyetech lists it as 90mah battery - compared to the M401 280mah battery - so you'll need more than 2 batteries during the day - that starter kit is just the starting price. The C1 Type A atomizer will fit some e-Go batteries. You might want to use the eRoll when you're out and about and then pop on a (bigger diameter/length) e-Go battery that takes a Type A for at-home vaping.

Now, with the above two models, you have batteries, carts and atomizers. But there's one more alternative in the cig-alike category - the KR808D-1. Extremely popular, it's a two-piece - 180/280/380mah batteries about the size of a cigarillo, just a bit longer than the M401, and a cartomizer. Charge the battery, twist on a cartomizer and you're done. No muss no fuss. Want a different flavor, just change out the cart. The batteries last about as long as the M401 - 4-6 hours. I have found them very reliable. Carts may last a week, or they may last a month and they can be refilled. Here's an example:

Kr808d-1 starter kit: kr808d-1 cartomizers, kr808d battery and more! Kr808d-1 kit from LiteCigUSA!

More pictures. About half way down the page past the fancy batteries you'll see the $9 and $14 batteries and also the 'smilomizers' (which are the cartomizers that you refill), and, it looks like the guys have even matched up a clearomizer as an alternative to cartomizers:
Search results for: '808d battery' | Electronic Cigarette | E-Cigs by Vapor4Life

Well, Tawney, that should give you a pretty good idea of the basic workhorse cigarette-alikes along with some very reputable vendors. I've always believed it's best to start simple and start cheap, with the main focus on finding the right nicotine level and the right flavor for you. You may find a month or two with a nicotine delivery system is enough to push you over the hump to quitting smoking and you'll have no interest in even looking at anything that looks like a cigarette again. So why spend $300 on equipment now? OTOH, maybe in a few months you might find that you actually enjoy this new hobby of vaping and at that point you'll want to look at systems that are bigger, more complex, with a longer learning curve and a much higher pricetag.

Hope this helps you make a decision. Cheers!
 

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