Need help, where am I going?

[BlitzkriegTim]

So I've got some issues right now with figuring out the next step I need to take. I'm currently vaping 5.3mg and I'm starting to need something more. I am constantly hitting the cutoff on my ego trying to get the TH and satisfaction I need but It's not enough. I want to go LR so I can take shorter drags and get more full vapour but the ego isn't gonna suffice. So I'm thinking I wan't to get a new device that will take 18650's and use LR cartos on it. From Canada I can only find 3 suitable devices and they are 1) The precise P18 2) The Omega 3) The Silver bullet. I've pretty much ruled out the Precise as it is way too pricy for what I need and I honestly dont like the bottom button. I'm leaning towards the other two and thinking of buying from electronic cigz (however I dislike the layout of their site).

On to my next problem, to get this going I'm gonna need those LR cartos and maybe a few Cisco lr 306's to try but electronic cigz has neither of these and jack only has the Ciscos... I was planning on ordering a bunch of the LR 510 boges from GH1 but they don't have the Ciscos . And with them I'd be waiting quite a while to get my stuff which could be a problem considering the next 60mls of juice I have is already mixed down to 2.6 mg which is gonna amplify the problem.

So what do I do? I need to go LR but I don't want to order hardware from 3 different sites. And I'm torn between the Omega and the Silver Bullet. Should I just try to tuff it out with the ego and hope the cravings subside? I think I may have dug myself into a hole

 

[dopeh]

I feel you. That's why I just picked up a Reo to replace my eGo. I'm in the same situation shopping for attys, so far the only place I see that has LR306 (though not cisco) and LR510 as well as the mega LR attys and mega cartos is nicfitnation. I assume you're looking for a Canadian site cuz you're impatient like me.

I'm also having trouble with my nic dosage, with 24mg I can't take 3 hits without ODing. With 16mg I'm chaining but still end up ODing (lol). I may do as you are and knock it down to 5mg so I can chain all day with no heart attack..

 

[rachelcoffe]

Tim, as an immediate suggestion...you might try upping the nic a bit. You're vaping really low-nic juices: nic is no more harmful to you than caffeine. If your current low levels aren't getting it done...take it up a tad & see if that helps (chances are it will).

EDIT: As dopeh's post (posted while I was writing this) indicates...we all have different comfort zones for nic tolerance, & for satisfaction.

Before you invest in a mod, you might want to first try an automatic Mega eGo (900 mAh) from Jack - not advisable for dripping of course, but you're digging the cartomizers now, so no problem there. The reason I mention this is because not only is it affordable & simple (not some expensive heavy or complicated clunker mod)...but because I have never experienced any cutoff with my auto Mega eGo + standard Boge 510 cartomizers. And I take looong draws. Nice, long, relaxed, big draws.

I think some of the mythos around mods is more hype than substance; preference over performance. Personally I'm really happy with my automatic Mega eGo, & aesthetically speaking I'm not keen to go larger. I definitely recommend both adjusting the nic, & waiting on some LR 510 cartomizers or Cisco LR 306 atomizers before you give serious thought to switching hardware. The real questions you need to be asking yourself re: mods are "do I need this? Am I overlooking a simpler, easier or less expensive solution to address my vaping needs?"

But if you really want to go mod at some point, you know there are a lot of options (here at home, as well as from the States). Ordinarily I would be all for you sticking with a Canadian supplier. But of all the mods out there, the SaberTouch Vari Volt looks like one of the more appealing models (though it has a few odd issues):

Saber Touch VariVolt

bornagainst can attest to his love for the touch sensor switch on the SaberTouch. I've also been quite intrigued by the ProVari (gotta love that digital display):

ProVari - Variable Voltage

That page goes down quite a ways, plenty to see. If there was an automatic ProVari, I'd be much more inclined to get one someday. Automatic vaping action is a must for me!

Either of these mods is going to run you a pretty penny, of course. But if you're really gonna invest in a mod, I think variable voltage is hands down the way to go. That way it's like having several mods all in one, & you can experiment to find your sweet spot.

As to the Omega, Dusty_D got his recently from Electronic Cigz & can tell you how he's enjoying his. I'm sure he'd show it to you too if you can both make it to one of the Happy Vaper meets. I don't recall if anyone here in the Canada subforum has the Silver Bullet - anyone who does, by all means Tim could use some feedback!

Hope this post helps!

We're here for you Tim.

 

[rachelcoffe]

P.S. Where are you going? You're going to Timmies!

 

[VAPOINSANO]

P.S. Where are you going? You're going to Timmies!

again good 1 r/c lol

hi tim uppin the nic is a v.good 1 !
even just a coupla good puffs of,,,,umm for u 11mg-16 should do it? most affordable too!

u have described every vapors nitemare right there
1 time or other!
good luck

imho,i am new 2,
i had great beginners luck, to pass on juice wise .
very good combo of 3 different vendors+nic levels 0-36mg,
w/20 flavs! about $110 ,still got lots 2mnths in!
lotsa choice has saved my skrawny @...+ way more $ than i ever imagined!

ps i see my typin has regressed to a point ,that would make a pirate blush! rrrrrrrrrrrr

 

[NoizMaker]

Tim, as an immediate suggestion...you might try upping the nic a bit. You're vaping really low-nic juices: nic is no more harmful to you than caffeine. If your current low levels aren't getting it done...take it up a tad & see if that helps (chances are it will).

EDIT: As dopeh's post (posted while I was writing this) indicates...we all have different comfort zones for nic tolerance, & for satisfaction.

Before you invest in a mod, you might want to first try an automatic Mega eGo (900 mAh) from Jack - not advisable for dripping of course, but you're digging the cartomizers now, so no problem there. The reason I mention this is because not only is it affordable & simple (not some expensive heavy or complicated clunker mod)...but because I have never experienced any cutoff with my auto Mega eGo + standard Boge 510 cartomizers. And I take looong draws. Nice, long, relaxed, big draws.

I think some of the mythos around mods is more hype than substance; preference over performance. Personally I'm really happy with my automatic Mega eGo, & aesthetically speaking I'm not keen to go larger. I definitely recommend both adjusting the nic, & waiting on some LR 510 cartomizers or Cisco LR 306 atomizers before you give serious thought to switching hardware. The real questions you need to be asking yourself re: mods are "do I need this? Am I overlooking a simpler, easier or less expensive solution to address my vaping needs?"

But if you really want to go mod at some point, you know there are a lot of options (here at home, as well as from the States). Ordinarily I would be all for you sticking with a Canadian supplier. But of all the mods out there, the SaberTouch Vari Volt looks like one of the more appealing models (though it has a few odd issues):

Saber Touch VariVolt

bornagainst can attest to his love for the touch sensor switch on the SaberTouch. I've also been quite intrigued by the ProVari (gotta love that digital display):

ProVari - Variable Voltage

That page goes down quite a ways, plenty to see. If there was an automatic ProVari, I'd be much more inclined to get one someday. Automatic vaping action is a must for me!

Either of these mods is going to run you a pretty penny, of course. But if you're really gonna invest in a mod, I think variable voltage is hands down the way to go. That way it's like having several mods all in one, & you can experiment to find your sweet spot.

As to the Omega, Dusty_D got his recently from Electronic Cigz & can tell you how he's enjoying his. I'm sure he'd show it to you too if you can both make it to one of the Happy Vaper meets. I don't recall if anyone here in the Canada subforum has the Silver Bullet - anyone who does, by all means Tim could use some feedback!

Hope this post helps!

We're here for you Tim.

Awesome post Rachel!

Tim, I also own the Omega and I believe it will be around for years and years. Cisco LR 306 atties are good if you're looking to drip and it is very close to a 6v vaping experience. I ordered some Joye LR 306's from NFN and they are good as well, but don't pack as much punch imho, but some people like that more. Cisco's have a noticeable "after vape" feel that I love.

I believe a drop or two of Alcool would be ok and raise the TH as well. Never done it because I can't get it but I would imagine it would certainly kick it up a notch

 

[BlitzkriegTim]

@ Rachel: Upping the nic isn't an option for me at this point for a few reasons. I dont have any higher nic level juices around that I like the taste of, and there's absolutely no chance that I will be going back to analogs so why take a step backwards? I can handle the lack of satisfaction but I Would like to have more.

As to auto batteries, I don't think they would suit me as I tend to fire my cartos like a second before I put them to my mouth. And the mega ego batteries aren't made for LR. I know many people do it and say it is fine but Switched's logic is solid so I won't be going LR with low mah batteries.

And for the vari volt, I will definately look into that, as well as the alcohol. Thanks for your input guys.

Edit: OMG I drooled all over myself when looking at the ProVari... I know I don't need it but I want it!

 

[dopeh]

Even a day or 2 of contemplating new gear/juice/methods without pulling the trigger is time well spent away from cigs

I'm new to this, but it seems to me that this is more of an art than a science. After spending $70/week on smoking (and destroying my health in the process), buying new vaping toys seems a very cheap way to pass the time. Anticipating that new atty etc in the mail is smoking prevention in and of itself imo.

Oh and have a banana

 

[Can_supplier]

Tim,

You are looking in 2 directions when you need to pick one. A LR atomizer isn’t really for use with a variable volt or HV mod. If you crank it up to much you are going to get a BBQ rather a PV. You need to pick one or the other.

An eGO has more than enough juice to power a LR atomizer. By some reports it actually works better than some of the other mods for vapor production. The mod are really only giving the advantage of longer battery life with a LR.

You need to look at your juice to find the TH you want. There are tons of suggestions. VG can produce a cloud of thick vapor, giving you the feel you are trying to get holding the button for longer. Others mix with alcohol to give the TH, I know Switched does that, so maybe he could make a suggestion. You might want to read the DIY liquid section here for suggestions, as that is where I think you will find your solution, rather than hardware.

** Cisco atomizers are made to spec for a supplier down in the US. You can't just buy them anywhere like you would a Joye. These atomizers have taken off more than was expected so its very hard if not impossible to get them as a supplier these days, unless you have already had them listed.

 

[BlitzkriegTim]

I'm not trying to go higher voltage, and I'm not looking for variable voltage, that's just a neat toy that was suggested. I want an 18650 capable device (3.7 volts) so that when using LR atty's like the Cisco ones (Happy Vaper already has in them stock) or LR cartos like the boge ones (at 1.5 ohms) I am not overstressing the battery. Even though many people say they work just fine on ego batts, it's clearly not ideal or reccomended by the manufacturer. As was stated before by Switched, a 650mah ego batt at 3.7 volts is not supposed to put out more than .65 amps. Whereas the 1.5 ohm boge carto is trying to draw just under 2.5 amps, so it's not something that I will be doing. (apologies Switched if I've misquoted you)

 

[Can_supplier]

The eGo with the LR atomizer is what I vape every day. Since the product has come on the market, I have replaced 2 batteries during personal use.

I'm not sure the source where it says LR isn't made for the eGO. Joye isn't catering to the mod market with the their LR atomizer, nor do they offer some sort of LR specific device, its meant to be used on their eGO product. The was some question about the LR on 510 batteries, as they were stressed to begin with the regular atomizers.

The eGo battery works perfectly with LR atomizers.

 

[Switched]

Rob,

Vendors sell stuff and vapers use stuff. Not pointing fingers here but last time I checked JoyE falls under the category of vendor. I also have been vaping the eGo since the beginning. The difference, I am still on my original batts. Could just be luck or...

 

[Can_supplier]

Hey Switched,

I think we may have lost each other with the post.

Back to the root of mater, I think you can agree there is nothing wrong with using a 510 LR on an eGo.

 

[kanadiankat]

I don't sell eGo's but I've used them. So here's my unbiased 2 cents....

Tim - a low res on an ego shouldn't be a problem - ever. Rob's right on this. Not sure why there's so much written otherwise on LR's.

Also, dripping from time to time will give you a better throat hit. The stronger the flavor - the better the hit.

 

[Switched]

Hey Switched,

I think we may have lost each other with the post.

Back to the root of mater, I think you can agree there is nothing wrong with using a 510 LR on an eGo.

Folks can vape standing on their heads if that brings 'em satisfaction. I am totally cool with that. Battery longevity is reduced approximately 35-50% between charges, and overall battery life decreased accordingly due to the rapid acceleration of the rock content (natural occurrence in batteries as we use them) in the battery due to stress.

You can eat fast food every day of the week, but the build up of cholesterol in your arteries will sooner or later cause a heart attack. The information is out there for those who wish to seek it Battery information from Battery University I had the same idea about using the LRs on my Stick because the 10440 batt sucked as we know it. I was advised against it and pointed to the reasons why, not dissimilar to what I am doing here.

It amazes me where folks want to recycle their cartos, yet don't don't blink at shortening battery life on purpose. That being said, there is nothing wrong with using 'em, providing you are willing to accept that your overall battery life will be shortened by the practice. All this info is readily available in the technical sections of the forum.

 

[Lola69]

Tim,
I have a silver bullet that I bought from electonic-cigz. I also have the regular manual eGo (not the xl battery) from HV and like them both however, although the silver bullet is bulky and big for my hands (shouldn't be an issue for guy), I prefer to have that at work as the battery lasts me all day (I'm a stealth vapor and it's rarely away from my hands). Also, the 510LR puts out more vapor and somehow tastes better on my silver bullet than on the eGo. It's not the prettiest thing out there but I've never misplaced it and it takes a beating (falling off my desk multiple times daily). I am also a dripper so I'm not sure if that helps with the 510LR or not. I was also looking at a Precise but it's still a bit too pricey for me.

 

[BlitzkriegTim]

Thanks for the input guys, I'm seriously considering the silver bullet now, I like the Omega silver vein but the button on it seems like it would get on my nerves after a while.

 

[NoizMaker]

Thanks for the input guys, I'm seriously considering the silver bullet now, I like the Omega silver vein but the button on it seems like it would get on my nerves after a while.

It's all about the button. If you think the switch would be uncomfortable then I would certainly go for the SB. I own a Silver Vein because I never have to polish it. Shiny Mods + Hands x 7 days per week = Ugly mod.. unless you use those cape cod polishing cloths from HV. Or, you are lucky and have less of a body chemistry that doesn't cause tarnishing.

Basically there are a few things to think about when choosing a mod such as;

Safety features
Button Placement
Atomizer Threading
5 volt or 3.7/ 6v or VV
Mechanical / Electrical/ Touch Switch
Compatible Batteries
Juice Fed or no feed
Size
Finish


There are other things to consider as well but after considering which of those you really want it will help you choose between any mod on the market.

 

[inkedcanadian]

I have the Omega in black and it's really quite nice. The style of button doesn't bother me at all. I got it over the SB for it being slightly smaller.

 

[lickwid]

I'm just about to leave work, so I don't have time to read what everyone else suggested, but I'm rocking a mega ego battery and either LR510s or LR Cisco 306s, and it's perfect. 900mah battery is great for me. I do have two of them just in case one breaks, or dies, but I never need it. I got all of it from happyvaper, gl if you do get a mod tho, there is a ton of good ones out there, but nothing comes close to the portability of the ego.