Need help with DIY Flavor Concentrates

[Tweak401]

Ok so here's what's going on. This morning I was vaping and all of a sudden my lips started going numb & tingling only when I hit my vape. I thought it was because i was dehydrated but nope that wasn't it. Finally i went into the bathroom, looked in the mirror and puckered up, my lips had hives on them. Now I just started to make my own vape juice and this allergic reaction happened after i made my first 60%vg 40%pg diy-juice an tried it out, well that was a bad idea on my part. I switched back to vaping my 70%vg 30%pg diy-juice and my lips are still tingling and numb only when I hit my vape, even at what I was normally vaping.

Now what I need help with is finding Concentrated flavors that are made with 100% vegetable glycerin, but problem is I can only seem to find premade 100%vg e-juice, not Flavored Concentrates made with Vegetable glycerin. Can someone please help me cause if I cant find flavored concentrates then I'm gonna have to go back to rolling and smoking cigarettes again which I really dont want to do because they are nasty & taste like ....

 

[Qew]

Real Flavors are 100% VG. DIY - Flavor Concentrates - Real Flavors - Page 1 - DIY Vapor Supply

 

[Koolkiz]

Natures flavors are suspended in Organic Ethyl Alcohol.
Nature's Flavors Concentrates

 

[HigherStateD]

https://flavorjungle.com/collections/northwest-vg-flavors

 

[Tweak401]

Thanks Qew & koolkiz

 

[Tweak401]

Thanks higherstateD

 

[vaper1960]

You could just make your juice with VG and still use flavors made with PG... should only end up around 10-15 % PG. Also if the high VG juice is too thick, you can add a very small bit of distilled water to thin it out. How long have you been vaping? Has the PG ever bothered you before? Do you have any food allergies?

 

[BrotherBob]

Now what I need help with is finding Concentrated flavors that are made with 100% vegetable glycerin

You will also probably need nic cut with only VG too. Suggest you vape only 100 VG unflavored and see if you could get use to this. I have like so many of PG Free vapers. Suggest you get back to us if PG Free works for you then post a requirement for one or two PG Free recipes in the category* you wish to pursue.
*Some of my general categories:
Bakery
Butterscotch / Butter Rum/Toffee
Caramel
Chocolate
Cinnamon
Creams/Custards/Vanilla/MM/CC
Nut
Peanut Butter
Tobacco
MISC SINGLES/Fruit etc.

 

[Tweak401]

aight so I went Saturday to an allergy physician because I'm getting back on my allergy shots. Anyways, I brought all my vaping stuff with me and they tested me for every ingredient, and I'm 100% allergic to propylene glycol. Now this is going to be really fun figuring everything out because out of all the concentrates from Capella that I bought, only the green apple I can use and everything else i have to throw out. This sucks cause all the money i spent gone down the drain.

Anyways, now its time to find my VG only concentrates

 

[smacuser]

This sucks cause all the money i spent gone down the drain.

You might be able to recoup some of your money by selling them here on the classifieds.

 

[somdcomputerguy]

You might be able to recoup some of your money by selling them here on the classifieds.

Ya. Sell 'em or PIF 'em. You'll feel much better than if you just pour 'em out and toss the bottles in the trash.

 

[Koolkiz]

Natures flavors are suspended in Organic Ethyl Alcohol.
Nature's Flavors Concentrates

I suggest researching this. I know this forum has talked about this company. The link is a reseller. Buy direct from the producer here. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...flavors.com/&usg=AOvVaw1sGCoxhABLvhkxnSJDPBu1
As always do your research.

 

[Mordacai]

@Tweak401, I do know that @stols001 uses PEG 400 (a polyethylene glycol) instead of PG.

 

[HigherStateD]

@Tweak401 I have 2 half liter bottles of PEG400 from river supply that are all yours if you want them. One is still sealed, the other I took out maybe 5ml and never touched again.

 

[stols001]

PEG400 was great for me. I can tolerate a small amount of PG usually about 10% or less, but any less it's like pins and needles and numb in my mouth. It was no fun MTL 90% VG and yeah, I tried the water bit (It does improve consistency and it does actually improve flavor a tiny bit.) I tried vodka but that got dreary chocolate plus vodka, everything tasting like flavor plus vodka. There, too you only want to use a little bit and it will think the vape but as it so happens I only like the taste of vodka if it also gets me drunk and inhaling it doesn't do the trick.

PEG400 is LESS viscous than VG but more so than PG. I usually use a 65%PEG 10%PG (flavors) and 40% VG and it winds out fine. The biggest thing I noticed was PEG400 did not hurt (and please, everything I read about it was not alarming but do your own research (although I did totally trust the guy who recommended it) I did my own search.

The biggest thing I noticed is it is a much better flavor carrier than VG alone. To me, VG only kind of makes flavors IDK muddy while PEG400 makes them sharper and crisper. I didn't reduce my clouds that much but I did find I was a lot happier with the mix in general and my tanks didn't heat up as much.

If you have many flavors, heck, sell them, PIF them, trade them for PEG (although River Supply sold it pretty cheaply last I checked) but if they are on the new side and in good shape, someone will want them.

I have a BUNCH of mostly Capella flavors that are perfectly fine, were well stored, and would have cost me a ton more to buy than if I had done so new and I haven't contracted anything I know of (From them anyway.)

You just need to list approximate age, storage, whether they've been opened or not, and price them reasonably and you (and the buyer) are both better off.

Good luck. I am really grateful someone suggested PEG400 to me and I hope you can try it.

Anna

 

[HigherStateD]

inhaling it doesn't do the trick.

Have you tried it in a nebulizer?

I hope you can try it.

I'll be glad to send ya 30ml out of the bottle I already opened. PEG tastes more sharp, as Anna said, but to me, it tastes more like vodka than the PG, which I have the similar thought... If I'm not trying to indulge in libations, I'd rather not taste it.
Funny how subjective taste is though.

ETA: my father swore vodka didn't have a taste.

 

[somdcomputerguy]

..but as it so happens I only like the taste of vodka if it also gets me drunk and inhaling it doesn't do the trick.

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[Letitia]

You could try ultra concentrates that you only use 2-3 drops per 30ml. Flavorah and Medicine Flower would be worth a look.

 

[mcduffy]

Flavorjungle is having a flash sale today only(Wednesday, September 30th) of 40% off Northwest VG base flavors.
Use Coupon Code: NW40SAVINGS
Coupon expires at 11:59pm (PST) on September 30, 2020

https://flavorjungle.com/collections/northwest-vg-flavors

 

[BrotherBob]

aight so I went Saturday to an allergy physician because I'm getting back on my allergy shots. Anyways, I brought all my vaping stuff with me and they tested me for every ingredient, and I'm 100% allergic to propylene glycol. Now this is going to be really fun figuring everything out because out of all the concentrates from Capella that I bought, only the green apple I can use and everything else i have to throw out. This sucks cause all the money i spent gone down the drain.

Anyways, now its time to find my VG only concentrates

Could start with top "PG Free" concentrate (all need to be reconfirmed/tend to have the most selections) Suppliers:
#1 Natures Flavors, NF
#2 Real Flavors / Northwest Flavors,NWF, Not sure if still manufacturing flavors.
#3 OoO Flavors: (Careful oooflavors are not easy to work with and some pg free flavor claims are not PG Free.)
#4 Nude Nicotine,NN, Flavor Concentrates
#5 Viper Flavors [Organic Flavors],VF
Some concentrated manufactures claim to be producing PG Free flavors but when you read the Safety Data Sheets (SDSs), or talk to them, I found out that they may be using PG in small quantities. Suggest you confirm any of the other non mentioned above mfgr's if what you are buying is 100% PG Free.
Note that many mfgr's have some PG Free flavors.
3/2019