Need help with FA Camtel please

[mary_d]

I mixed up some Camtel from FA yesterday and when I tried to vape it all I tasted was a horribly strong coffee type taste. I decided to let it set for a day to see if hopefully it would get better but it hasn't. Does anyone have any advice on what I can add to it to calm it down a bit so that I can vape it?

TIA!

Mary

 

[lexi60]

If its mixed over 10% cut it with VG.
FA seems to take longer to mix right. I give it at least a week to steep.
A drop of vape wizard per 4-5ml seems to kill flavor well also.

 

[mary_d]

I only mixes it at 2%...That stuff is strong! I have some vape wizard coming that should be here tomorrow I will give that a try and also let it set until next week to see if that helps. Thanks for the help

Mary

 

[MaxUT]

I mixed some Camtel at 4% back in April but didn't care for it and set it aside.
In August I came across the bottle and gave it another try. It was good, so I vaped up the remainder.

Generally FA tobacco flavors taste best to me at higher concentrations, 9-12%, but only after ageing for at least a month.

 

[mary_d]

Thanks Max I will play around with the % a bit and see if it works out for me as well as it did for you.

 

[AlexTM]

Have you tried any other FA tobaccos, or a lot of tobacco flavours or liquids? Because personally, I can't vape most tobacco flavours, including the FA ones. They all contain something - very likely an aldehyde - to which I am oversensitive. Which means they taste like very little else, and like very very very much of my least favourite aldehyde. Vaping plain flavour can't me much worse.

 

[mary_d]

So far I have tried the Cuban Supreme, Dark Vapure, Maxbro and Camtel and Camtel was the only one that was so harsh I couldn't stand it. I have alot of the FA tobacco flavors and more of them coming today I just haven't had a chance to mix any of the others just yet.

 

[AlexTM]

My personal least favourite aldehyde is in all of them (I am the only person I know of with this problem), but of course you could have a similar problem with a less common ingredient.

 

[SimpleSins]

My personal least favourite aldehyde is in all of them (I am the only person I know of with this problem), but of course you could have a similar problem with a less common ingredient.

I don't know if it's an aldehyde or not, but I do know that of the 7 FA tobaccos that I have tried so far, the only one I can vape sensory-wise is Shade. The rest all seem to have the same smell/taste that I find just horrible no matter how low a dilution (a single drop in 3 ml is enough for me to detect, and despise, it) and I end up needing to soak atomizers to get rid of it.

 

[AlexTM]

Max from FA throught it was "probably" an aldehyde. He also mentioned that Shade might be one that I could taste better, but it was pretty much the same for me - although it's not the same amount in all. It's also in a few non-tobacco flavours, Oak Wood is beasty.
It's not just FA, either. By now, I can taste it in about every tobacco flavour, except TA.

 

[Nikhil]

Maybe you guys are supertasters? I'm curious if you guys have had similar experiences with any non-tobacco flavors. Are chocolates and coffees fine?

 

[SimpleSins]

Maybe you guys are supertasters? I'm curious if you guys have had similar experiences with any non-tobacco flavors. Are chocolates and coffees fine?

I haven't really found a chocolate one that I like; everything seems to taste burned- peanut butter cup, chocolate iced donut, etc. And the coffees all taste too bitter- like Vapor Station's Cafe Sumatra- everybody said it was great but too much it tasted like burned French Roast coffee. And it's funny you should mention that because I noticed that when I'm setting up my coffee for the next day, the smell of the old filter/and oil residue type stuff on the basket of the pot smells a lot like the smell I get from FA's tobaccos.

 

[AlexTM]

I don't think I qualify - most other stuff tastes fine, although chocolate of course is one tricky flavour to make. I have a very similar problem with perfumes, though - only very old ones and very, very, very few new ones don't just absolutely stink to me.

 

[Jensb]

I don't think I qualify - most other stuff tastes fine, although chocolate of course is one tricky flavour to make. I have a very similar problem with perfumes, though - only very old ones and very, very, very few new ones don't just absolutely stink to me.

yeah thats right. some are very bad like the new Oriental of them. this is just awesome

 

[mary_d]

I tried everything suggested and I still cannot stand the Camtel it taste awful and smells so much like a ashtray I just don't see it being something I will ever be able to vape

 

[gingersnaps]

I use a drop or 2 of vanilla when I mix mine and it makes it a bit smoother

 

[lexi60]

I tried everything suggested and I still cannot stand the Camtel it taste awful and smells so much like a ashtray I just don't see it being something I will ever be able to vape

Hide it for a month and retry it...
Boost it up to 8-12%?

 

[mary_d]

Hide it for a month and retry it...
Boost it up to 8-12%?

I tried really hard to hide it and stay away from it for a month but I just couldn't do it.

The good news though is that you were right!!! I just tried it about a hour ago and have been vaping it ever since. The nasty harsh flavor is gone and it is so freaking yummy I like it sooooo much now that I went ahead and made a larger bottle so I can let it sit while I use up this bottle.

Mary