Need help with my vaping goal: Big Clouds

[Rooodie]

Hi All,

I am fairly new to vaping, I used to smoke analogs, and I am looking for a setup that will give me big clouds. Currently I am running Vision Spinner 1300amh battery with a Kanger ProTank III. I am also using a 100% VG blend liquid. I get fairly big clouds, but feel they could be bigger. Big clouds help me to keep using e-cigs instead of analogs so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance for your help!

 

[Rooodie]

Should I have posted this in a different section of the boards?

 

[misohoni]

There's quite a few ways to get "Big Clouds", I'm not sure if your into building coils Or not? If you are you might want to look at some rda's Or RBA's - But if you don't have a good understanding of ohm's law & battery safety I wouldn't recommend it,

If your after something similar to what you have you could get something like the Aspire Nautilus Tank Or you could get a Aerotank base for your current tank which would increase its performance & would be your cheapest option - $5

Kanger Airflow Control Valve - Kidney Puncher

Aspire Nautilus - Kidney Puncher

Review On Nautilus Tank: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ed-protank-ii-protank-iii-anyvape-davide.html

 

[Bigflyrodder]

Agree with above, make adjustments to your topper first.

You have a lot of reading/research to do before you will be ready to cloud chase, the fact you are asking how to do it on a spinner battery is a big clue you aren't ready for that arena just yet. I suggest you pick up either the Nautilus tank which will give you a better vaping experience and more vapor or at least pick up the airflow base that was mentioned. Either one will be an imporvement.

While you are enjoying that vape you need to read up on and watch youtube vids on ohms law, battery safety, mech mods, RDAs, etc. to start to get an idea of which direction you want to go. It isn't hard once you have a good understanding of what is involved but you will need a little patience because you need to take it slow to be safe and to get the results you want.

Come here, ask all the questions you have, every one here will gladly help you on your journey!

BTW, I am currently vaping on a Nautilus and it does indeed produce intense flavor, great throat hit, and very acceptable vapor ;-).

 

[Dusif]

You will have to invest in a mech mod, some batteries that can handle the amp draw and some other stuff... Its not super expensive BUT cloud chasing is not just all fun and games, it can really go wrong and you WILL get hurt if you screw up...


But after the scary lecture...
Cloud chasing can be funny and it is quite the art to make the perfect set of coils and the flavors can be intense beyond your wildest dreams

But a cloud chaser setup on an ego type would destroy it and possibly result in a fire


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[djwyman]

another thing that could help (you didn't mention your ohms so that could help us as well) but maybe try using a lower ohm coil. Like if you are using a 2.2 or something try a 1.8.

RBAs can be fun if you want to go that route but as said above do the research and do so safely. Use good high amp limit batteries and understand ohms law. test everything from the battery to the coil with meters before firing it for the first time.

 

[djwyman]

Another thing that can help with big clouds is using a higher ratio of vg

nevermind I just reread where you said you are using 100%vg
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[Stosh]

One easy way to get bigger clouds is to adjust your draw. It needs to be a longer, slower, gentler puff than you are used to on a cigarette. Also press the fire button a 1/2 second before you draw to pre-heat the coil a little bit.....

 

[Bosco]

IMO - you're not gonna get big clouds from any kind of stock clearomizer/atomizer. A vision spinner or most vv/vw devices aren't going to cut it, either. You are pretty much going to need either a mechanical mod or a dna 20/30. I can get pretty decent clouds with a kick2 set at 15 watts . .but I'm not a cloud-chaser and, if I was, I don't think 15 watts would be quite enough.

In addition to your pv upgrade, you're also going to need something you can build a coil on that has decent airflow and no rubber/silcone parts. A dripper like the patriot, trident, helios, etc or one of their clones is ideal.

If you go with a mech, you'll need a good battery. A lot of people on here will warn you how dangerous mech mods and low res coils are .. and I appreciate that . .but I feel it's overstated. Ohms law is not something you're going to need to go to school to learn. Just plug your numbers into an on-line calculator. Same with battery safety . .just get a good battery like the sony vtc4 and you really don't need to worry about 99% of the coils you are actually likely to build and use. Watch some videos on youtube . I particularly like mcvapes "ohms, volts, batteries and you" . .or something like that, lol . .he doesn't have that many videos up . .you'll find it. Oh - and write this down and keep it posted in your vaping area "If it get's hot, stop pressing the button".

Now that's all if you want to go after the biggest clouds you can get. You'd probably find something like a kayfun or clone with a microcoil is a significant upgrade to Protank 3. You might be happy right there and not need to bother with the rest of it . .I am.

 

[Moedog]

If you don't feel ready to step into rebuildables and sub ohms vaping, I would definitely recommend the Aspire Nautilus tank which I can tell you produces pretty awesome clouds. Can't say enough good stuff about the Nautilus--guaranteed to keep you off analogs.

 

[ej1024]

Rooodie,
You have to start DRIPPING
Buy clone drip/mod have the vape shop build a micro coil first with 26-28g kanthal for a start,
Dripping is intense dude,you will always get a stronger hit on the throat,and the flavor YUMMY!!
If ur vaping on 12 and up in a tank,I suggest you drip on 3mg to 6mg,like what I said its very intense,a lot of guys use 0mg Nic 100% vg becuz they just wanna play/or marketing purposes...
FYI clone products are not bad at all, don't be fooled by the others,unless you are loaded with $$$$..
SS MODS are always the way to go...

Sent from my LUMIA 1520 Tapatalk

 

[Bigflyrodder]

I agree with suggesting clones, I have several and they work great but like everything else you have to do your research and know what you're buying.

 

[Rooodie]

There's quite a few ways to get "Big Clouds", I'm not sure if your into building coils Or not? If you are you might want to look at some RDA's Or RBA's - But if you don't have a good understanding of ohm's law & battery safety I wouldn't recommend it,

If your after something similar to what you have you could get something like the Aspire Nautilus Tank Or you could get a Aerotank base for your current tank which would increase its performance & would be your cheapest option - $5

Kanger Airflow Control Valve - Kidney Puncher

Aspire Nautilus - Kidney Puncher

Review On Nautilus Tank: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ed-protank-ii-protank-iii-anyvape-davide.html

Thanks so much, misohoni! I am ordering the aero tank as we speak! Will the Aspire Nautilus tank fit onto my spinner battery without an adapter? I haven't gotten into building my own coils, but I don't have a very good understanding of Ohm's law yet so I will probably hold off on that. Thanks again!

 

[Rooodie]

Agree with above, make adjustments to your topper first.

You have a lot of reading/research to do before you will be ready to cloud chase, the fact you are asking how to do it on a spinner battery is a big clue you aren't ready for that arena just yet. I suggest you pick up either the Nautilus tank which will give you a better vaping experience and more vapor or at least pick up the airflow base that was mentioned. Either one will be an imporvement.

While you are enjoying that vape you need to read up on and watch youtube vids on ohms law, battery safety, mech mods, RDAs, etc. to start to get an idea of which direction you want to go. It isn't hard once you have a good understanding of what is involved but you will need a little patience because you need to take it slow to be safe and to get the results you want.

Come here, ask all the questions you have, every one here will gladly help you on your journey!

BTW, I am currently vaping on a Nautilus and it does indeed produce intense flavor, great throat hit, and very acceptable vapor ;-).

Thanks for the info! What battery would you recommend once I get used to using the Nautillus? Also have a noob question...what does RDA stand for?

 

[Rooodie]

another thing that could help (you didn't mention your ohms so that could help us as well) but maybe try using a lower ohm coil. Like if you are using a 2.2 or something try a 1.8.

RBAs can be fun if you want to go that route but as said above do the research and do so safely. Use good high amp limit batteries and understand ohms law. test everything from the battery to the coil with meters before firing it for the first time.

I'm using a 2.2ohm coil and running 4.3 amps on my battery. I tried the 1.8 that came with the kanger pro tank, but it didn't seem like I got my vapor. I don't necessarily want humongous clouds, just more vapor than I am currently getting which doesn't seem to be a lot.

 

[Rooodie]

IMO - you're not gonna get big clouds from any kind of stock clearomizer/atomizer. A vision spinner or most vv/vw devices aren't going to cut it, either. You are pretty much going to need either a mechanical mod or a dna 20/30. I can get pretty decent clouds with a kick2 set at 15 watts . .but I'm not a cloud-chaser and, if I was, I don't think 15 watts would be quite enough.

In addition to your pv upgrade, you're also going to need something you can build a coil on that has decent airflow and no rubber/silcone parts. A dripper like the patriot, trident, helios, etc or one of their clones is ideal.

If you go with a mech, you'll need a good battery. A lot of people on here will warn you how dangerous mech mods and low res coils are .. and I appreciate that . .but I feel it's overstated. Ohms law is not something you're going to need to go to school to learn. Just plug your numbers into an on-line calculator. Same with battery safety . .just get a good battery like the sony vtc4 and you really don't need to worry about 99% of the coils you are actually likely to build and use. Watch some videos on youtube . I particularly like mcvapes "ohms, volts, batteries and you" . .or something like that, lol . .he doesn't have that many videos up . .you'll find it. Oh - and write this down and keep it posted in your vaping area "If it get's hot, stop pressing the button".

Now that's all if you want to go after the biggest clouds you can get. You'd probably find something like a kayfun or clone with a microcoil is a significant upgrade to Protank 3. You might be happy right there and not need to bother with the rest of it . .I am.

Thanks for the advice, I definitely prefer safety over big clouds. I have felt my vision spinner getting hot when I would use it, would you recommend getting a better battery? Would it be safer aka not explode or overheat?

 

[Bigflyrodder]

RDA is a rebuildable dripping atomizer. Sorry about that.

The Nautilus comes with what they call a beauty ring which helps make the transition from the ego battery to the tank look nicer so should be set with that. Hard to say what the next step would be but if you really want to chase clouds you're going to have to get a mechanical mod, good batteries, a good battery charger, an RDA, stuff to wrap coils with, wick/cotton, etc. to get started. Sounds like a lot but you can get set up for probably $100 all in and you'd have gear that would work well for you for a good long time.

You'll get tons of suggestions when you ask what to get for a mechanical mod and RDA so just ask away when you're ready for that step. We're here!

 

[Rooodie]

Rooodie,
You have to start DRIPPING
Buy clone drip/mod have the vape shop build a micro coil first with 26-28g kanthal for a start,
Dripping is intense dude,you will always get a stronger hit on the throat,and the flavor YUMMY!!
If ur vaping on 12 and up in a tank,I suggest you drip on 3mg to 6mg,like what I said its very intense,a lot of guys use 0mg Nic 100% vg becuz they just wanna play/or marketing purposes...
FYI clone products are not bad at all, don't be fooled by the others,unless you are loaded with $$$$..
SS MODS are always the way to go...

Sent from my LUMIA 1520 Tapatalk

Another noobie question, what is dripping? I tried searching for it on the forums, but all I could find information on was driptips.

 

[Rooodie]

Ah, ok. So an RDA is what EJ was referring to when he was talking about dripping? Do I need a mechanical mod in order to use an RDA?

 

[Bigflyrodder]

Well, most often you need an RDA for dripping yes but you can also buy what are called 510 atomizers (bridgeless and wickless are best) that are designed for dripping as well. Those you could try out on the battery you have now and see how you like it. You simply put two or three drops of juice in there and then you can vape it until it starts tasting like you're running out. You'll get better flavor and probably more vapor that way too. Those come prebuilt so no worries.

To really cloud chase though you will need a mechanical mod, a good RDA, good batteries, etc. Sorry.